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Nursery sick of my child

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Ladymartin · 18/07/2022 18:51

Went to pick my daughter up from nursery today and her key worker practically threw her at me saying she’s been screaming all day and they have tried everything. This has been going on a while with one or other of them bringing my daughter to me saying she’s been crying etc and they can’t stop her. They have had a right day with her etc. I’m at a loss. She likes a lot of attention and being outside. I said this to the manager and she said we have playtimes but can’t be outside all day because of one child. I know today has been hot but his has been going on for months since she started. They just say she cries and screams like in temper but they try everything and she won’t stop. I have said what about solutions and they have said they literally can’t do more than they have done. I am a single parent and need to work. I have other children who went to this nursery and were fine. I told my sister and she just said well you know what she’s like she must do their heads in (not helping sis!!) Surely it’s their job to put up with crying children though? She has no issues or special needs apart from liking attention. She is almost two . Has anyone had children who acted like this ? I feel like I’m being unfair on the staff for inflicting her on them .

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Wonnle · 18/07/2022 22:03

Has any OP on this shite ever heard of paragraphs so people can actually make some sense of the rants ?

WoolyMammoth55 · 18/07/2022 22:02

OP, with the best will in the world, what you're describing is a situation that's not working.

You think the staff need to do more to manage it. But if they just can't - maybe they don't have enough time, or enough skill, or enough staff to kids, or whatever - then you as the parent are the one who needs to work out how to fix this.

Personally, in your shoes I'd be looking for a different setting, with a free flow layout, and/or childminder provision.

I'd also be interested in what your sister said and trying to work out if there's more you can do at home to encourage her to express herself in a different way.
Best of luck.

RedWingBoots · 18/07/2022 21:48

@Pumperthepumper I don't think others may understand your post is sarcastic.

Ohthatsexciting · 18/07/2022 21:45

I feel for the other children. To be in a environment with a child almost continually screaming and kicking off and so much time and focus on your daughter. I would not be happy if I was the parent of another child that attends the nursery and was subjected to this noise day in day out

puddingandsun · 18/07/2022 21:42

dandelionthistle · 18/07/2022 21:28

I don't actually know what's more disheartening, the number of posters lining up to criticise OP for not better managing the crying behaviour of a child who is not yet 2 FFS, or the abysmally low expectations some parents apparently have of the people and institutions caring for their very young children.

Agreed.
OP please try different settings and hopefully you'll find something that suits her needs better. Best of luck.

Girliefriendlikespuppies · 18/07/2022 21:42

I'd be really pissed off with the nursery tbh, they sound rubbish.

I'd be looking to move her to somewhere that wants to help your dd.

Tumbleweed101 · 18/07/2022 21:42

How many sessions is she doing at the nursery? Is this the only childcare she has? - no family members etc at other times in week?

Pumperthepumper · 18/07/2022 21:39

Mariposista · 18/07/2022 21:31

Agree with PP. You and the nursery staff need to work together to resolve this behaviour. Is she a bit spoilt? Does she get what she wants by kicking off at home? She is young enough for this to be turned around, and quickly too, so be open minded and proactive. It must be hard on your own with a full time job, several kids including one who behaves like this, but it can be done. Good luck!

Yes, is she a bit spoiled at not yet two? Have you accidentally made her think she’s important OP? Think carefully, is there any reason your very little child might want something and not yet be able to communicate why? It’s a mystery, she must be spoiled and attention seeking, age not yet two. Ffs.

RedWingBoots · 18/07/2022 21:39

@CallOnMe my DD goes to nursery as well. The nursery was chosen because it has large grounds. And like a few PPs have said with the nurseries they chose for their own children or work in, it is free flowing.

I actually have a nursery 500m away. It has no outside space and unlike another nursery in the area, which also has no outside space, they don't take the children out daily for walks.

Anyway I don't understand why you want to punish a 2 year old who is always crying. It's better to find out why they are crying at nursery especially as a lot of children behave differently in childcare settings to home.

SleepingStandingUp · 18/07/2022 21:35

Ladymartin · 18/07/2022 18:59

I understand that but as childcare professionals I expect them to be able to cope with a crying child. I take on board what you are saying about the childminder though. I feel like they should be working harder to settle her

Given they don't sound like they're calling you up at work and demanding you fetch her, they ARE coping with her. But you can hardly expect them to skip to the door and declare "we've had an amazing day, Eliza screamed for eight hours regardless of what we did but it's such a pleasure to listen to".

What do YOU do when she's screaming and can't have 121 attention or go outside?

SherbertLemonDrop · 18/07/2022 21:35

Yabu you need to try a different setting. It must be awful for everyone if she really is crying for attention the whole day. That's not fair.

Mariposista · 18/07/2022 21:31

Agree with PP. You and the nursery staff need to work together to resolve this behaviour. Is she a bit spoilt? Does she get what she wants by kicking off at home? She is young enough for this to be turned around, and quickly too, so be open minded and proactive. It must be hard on your own with a full time job, several kids including one who behaves like this, but it can be done. Good luck!

BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 18/07/2022 21:30

We chose a childminder for the early years (outside all the time) then a Preschool that had a free flow indoor outdoor arrangement. Even now at 10 dc1 would be outdoors 24 hours a day whatever the weather.

Hotpinkangel19 · 18/07/2022 21:29

It seems like it's your parenting that's causing issues, your sister has said she's hard work, be honest with yourself- if you are letting her scream for attention it's not doing her any favours. It must be difficult for the staff. Have they discussed what they are doing to help? Have you asked?

dandelionthistle · 18/07/2022 21:28

I don't actually know what's more disheartening, the number of posters lining up to criticise OP for not better managing the crying behaviour of a child who is not yet 2 FFS, or the abysmally low expectations some parents apparently have of the people and institutions caring for their very young children.

mathanxiety · 18/07/2022 21:26

Your child is clearly miserable and you need to find a childminder for her.

It's probably got to the point where she is alienating the staff and then she can sense that they don't like her, the poor little mite.

I would have taken her out after two weeks of crying tbh.

dandelionthistle · 18/07/2022 21:26

Rosebel · 18/07/2022 21:10

Ratio is 1 adult to 3 children. Should an adult give constant attention to one child and ignore the other 2?
There's nothing wrong with a 2 year old wanting attention except in a childcare setting they can't have attention all the time.

Have you only ever looked after one child at a time, that you think two must be 'ignored'?

Kite22 · 18/07/2022 21:19

I understand that but as childcare professionals I expect them to be able to cope with a crying child.

But as others have said - it is draining, if it actually is all day. They are human after all. It might be worth you appreciating that many places wouldn't keep a crying child all day - they would call you to collect them.

A child who is crying all day is trying to communicate something. Some pain, or some anxiety or some unmet need. I would be trying to get to the bottom of that rather than moaning about the Nursery staff. From your sister's reply, it sounds like her crying all day isn't exclusive to Nursery ?

CallOnMe · 18/07/2022 21:16

Today my DD spent the majority of the day playing in her CM garden. Luckily her CM has a big garden with shady parts.

Not every establishment has big gardens with lots of shady parts though and I believe in nursery they all need to do certain things together like having a snack or their meals and OPs DD can’t throw a tantrum because she wants to go outside.

OP and her sister agree that it’s an attention thing and because she wants to go in the garden so she needs to be taught at home that she can’t always get her own way else she’s going to be miserable at nursery.

Rosebel · 18/07/2022 21:10

Limecoconutice · 18/07/2022 19:26

What about the other children?

DC of two years don't have an awareness of other children's needs at that age. What is so wrong with a two year old wanting attention? Some two year olds are more needy than others. People here are making it sound like a character failing! She is two fhs!

Ratio is 1 adult to 3 children. Should an adult give constant attention to one child and ignore the other 2?
There's nothing wrong with a 2 year old wanting attention except in a childcare setting they can't have attention all the time.

Brefugee · 18/07/2022 21:10

Be honest, OP. You say she likes attention. From what your sister said this isn't uncommon and you just put up with it. So how about teaching her not to scream and cry to get what she wants all the time.

frankly, if i were the head of the nursery I'd give you notice to find a new childcare provider. That's not good for anyone.

RedWingBoots · 18/07/2022 21:09

CallOnMe · 18/07/2022 19:35

It sounds like they may be hinting for you to work on her behaviour at home.

I think you need to be much more firm about giving in to her and that’s she’s only allowed in the garden if she behaves well.

I would ask them if they have a particular routine and see if you can try and have a similar routine at home.

I’m not sure a childminder would help in this situation as I think she needs to the structure of nursery.

How old are her siblings?

That's just horrible advice.

Today my DD spent the majority of the day playing in her CM garden. Luckily her CM has a big garden with shady parts.

When it's not hot they can go for long walks so they are out a good proportion of the day.

At my DD's nursery on days where it is 25+ degrees they do outside water play but they have sized decent grounds. This is unlike the nursery I live next to which has a tiny outside space for more children.

Petulathethird · 18/07/2022 21:08

Ladymartin · 18/07/2022 18:59

I understand that but as childcare professionals I expect them to be able to cope with a crying child. I take on board what you are saying about the childminder though. I feel like they should be working harder to settle her

What do you suggest they do? Being 'professionals' doesn't give them special powers.

Your daughter would be better with a child minder.

RaginaPhalange · 18/07/2022 21:03

I work in a nursery, crying and screaming can go on for months and then one day they just stop or they start to settle. If you don't trust their care then I would suggest moving her. You say you expect them to cope with a crying child, but they could also have more children who are also screaming and crying, after a while it does get very draining especially when there's nothing you do will help.

Ilovesandwiches · 18/07/2022 20:56

I’m sorry you’ve been made to feel this way, OP. You’re right, it is part of their job, and I’m saying this as a nursery room leader myself.
I understand the staff may have days which are tricky but actually your young child is also finding it tricky. Lots of settings spend most the day outside, so maybe see if you can visit one of those? Xx