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Nursery sick of my child

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Ladymartin · 18/07/2022 18:51

Went to pick my daughter up from nursery today and her key worker practically threw her at me saying she’s been screaming all day and they have tried everything. This has been going on a while with one or other of them bringing my daughter to me saying she’s been crying etc and they can’t stop her. They have had a right day with her etc. I’m at a loss. She likes a lot of attention and being outside. I said this to the manager and she said we have playtimes but can’t be outside all day because of one child. I know today has been hot but his has been going on for months since she started. They just say she cries and screams like in temper but they try everything and she won’t stop. I have said what about solutions and they have said they literally can’t do more than they have done. I am a single parent and need to work. I have other children who went to this nursery and were fine. I told my sister and she just said well you know what she’s like she must do their heads in (not helping sis!!) Surely it’s their job to put up with crying children though? She has no issues or special needs apart from liking attention. She is almost two . Has anyone had children who acted like this ? I feel like I’m being unfair on the staff for inflicting her on them .

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Hobnobswantshernameback · 23/05/2024 14:07

THIS THREAD IS TWO YEARS OLD
I suspect the situation may have moved
on a smidge 🙄

TheMixedGirl · 23/05/2024 14:03

dandelionthistle · 18/07/2022 19:11

Just spotted she is under two- they should have 1 adult to 3 children then! Let her have attention. What is it with this country and thinking that if a child shows they need some attention the 'right answer' is to refuse it? My DS was often the little shadow to his key person at this age, he just wandered around with her all day and she happily accepted that. By the time he was in a class of 30 he knew full well how to fit in and share the v finite attention and not disrupt everybody else. Long before then, in fact.

The nursery is the issue here, not your toddler.

Following around is one thing. Screaming and crying all day is a totally different matter

Prachiti · 23/05/2024 13:07

Hi I am also sailing in same boat like you
My daughter screams Alot in nursery atva her settling period it's been more than a month she cannot even settle down for 1 hr . Nursery staff only complains that she was upset screaming alot they agreed to me daily 1 hr bring her to get used to .today they told me we will do now half an hr everyday. I mean I ll work or pick and drop her for half e to nursery 😞 I am confused now ans don't know how to tackle with this situation

Crazycrazylady · 19/07/2022 18:17

Honestly it's sounds from everything you said including your sisters reaction that your baby is high needs . Absolutely nothing wrong with that, some kids simply are but it's very clear that the current setting isn't working for anyone . Dealing with a crying child all day is wearing on anyone even a loving parent. It's not surprisingly that the nursery staff are a little tired of it now. It sounds like your child requires moser attention than a nursery can give her. I'd move her to a different setting that can offer her more. It's awful to think of he crying all day every day if nothing else.

RedWingBoots · 19/07/2022 17:49

@Kite22 well there clearly is one setting that isn't at the moment...

Kite22 · 19/07/2022 17:47

All settings do or should @RedWingBoots

@Ladymartin - are you able to respond to some of these posts, tonight perhaps ?

RedWingBoots · 19/07/2022 12:53

OP you are aware there are settings who deal with and identify children with additional needs? So when you are eventually forced to move your child - as it is clear you won't do it off your own back - look for one of these.

DashboardConfessional · 19/07/2022 12:48

aquatastics · 19/07/2022 12:34

So she's been screaming for months and you've just been dropping her off anyway?

I suspect the issue here is that she is like this at home and OP just works around it. And she wants the nursery to do the same but they are pushing back instead of working around it because they have other children to consider. I can see both sides but it's been too long now so she needs a new setting.

aquatastics · 19/07/2022 12:34

So she's been screaming for months and you've just been dropping her off anyway?

Littlefish · 19/07/2022 12:02

My daughter was very similar, and was with a childminder from 9 months old, when I went back to work.

The childminder gave me notice after 3 months because my dd just simply wasn't settling with her, and spent most of the day in tears. Dd always needed a lot of attention too.

Please don't assume that your dd doesn't have additional needs. At her age it's simply not always possible to know.

My dd was diagnosed with ADHD at 15.l years old. If she was to be assessed for it, all the professionals involved have said that she would also get a diagnosis of Autism.

None of this was obvious at 2, in fact, not until about 14!

Rosehugger · 19/07/2022 12:00

I don't know how more children aren't like this in a nursery setting. I never used a nursery as I thought it was an awful setting for under twos. DDs loved going to the childminders.

Sartre · 19/07/2022 11:56

Childminder as many others have suggested. She needs to be in a different setting, this one obviously isn’t working for her.

DixonD · 19/07/2022 11:54

Ohthatsexciting · 19/07/2022 06:09

I genuinely wonder how people like you get on in life.

I am going to take a punt - you enjoy your own company because you don’t have any other choice

🤣

rainbowmilk · 19/07/2022 11:48

I think you are being unfair on the staff, yes. They may be childcare professionals but they're not magicians. Your child is unhappy in the setting. You need to either move her or talk to the nursery about implementing a joint plan to settle her. What's not an option is insisting that your child, the staff and other children should just deal with it because you have to work.

Mummyof287 · 19/07/2022 10:38

I was talking about being harsh and unkind to the child...but as usual this site is full of posters empowering authoritarian parenting, an 'adults are above children' attitude and belittling and totally disregarding the rights and needs of our smallest members of society in the process....no wonder there's such a high waiting list for CAMHS and so many kids struggling with their mental health.
Until we learn to treat our children more humanely, that will never change.

This poor little one clearly has incredible separation anxiety and wherever she settles next she will likely need gradual and gentle settling in to resolve that.I echo the recommendations of a childminder.

And as regards the work thing, perhaps OP has a family member or friend who can collect her DD if she is upset and look after her til you finish work,or so she can do shorter sessions to begin with (maybe the sister could do that and actually offer support rather than saying stupid comments that don't help whatsoever!)

And maybe book some annual leave to cover her settling in gradually somewhere new?

BogRollBOGOF · 19/07/2022 10:31

LuckyLil · 19/07/2022 10:15

I still think your biggest clue is in what your own sister said. This is clearly an issue that stems from outside of nursery that even your sister says she must do peoples heads in, so she's clearly a very demanding child even outside a nursery setting. You seem to be completely missing that clue. This is a child that needs one on one attention, not a whole class where it's just not feasible to give one child all the attention. I think a childminder is probably your answer here.

DM would say that about DS... he has an autism diagnosis now, and all the years of speech delays, meltdowns and struggling in her house with TVs/ radios blaring, or with going out to lunch were not actually him being spoilt, it was him being overwhelmed and her wants/ needs clashing with what he could cope with.

Family opinions are not always helpful indicators. DM is still of the children should be seen and not heard type, and DS1 was never going to please her.

OP's DD sounds miserable and it doesn't sound like the setting is meeting her needs well. It would be worth investigating other viable options. It takes a huge amount of energy for a child to constantly cry, they're not doing it for fun and it's not like an 8yo constantly badgering for attention.

There's lots of reasons why very young children can be overwhelmed and prefer 1:1 attention and outdoor space and that needs exploring.

LuckyLil · 19/07/2022 10:15

I still think your biggest clue is in what your own sister said. This is clearly an issue that stems from outside of nursery that even your sister says she must do peoples heads in, so she's clearly a very demanding child even outside a nursery setting. You seem to be completely missing that clue. This is a child that needs one on one attention, not a whole class where it's just not feasible to give one child all the attention. I think a childminder is probably your answer here.

Hardbackwriter · 19/07/2022 09:57

KilmordenCastle · 19/07/2022 09:20

Look at it this way,
Either they are crap at their jobs and not doing enough to help her settle. So you should move her to somewhere better.
Or...
They are good at their jobs and have exhausted all ideas to help her settle. So she's obviously just unhappy there and you should move her somewhere else to see if she's happier.

I completely agree with this - she needs a new setting, whether another nursery or a childminder. It doesn't necessarily mean there's anything wrong with this one, though having used both a nursery with set, limited outdoor times for the children and now one where it's totally free-flow I would never go back to the former. Sometimes somewhere just doesn't work for a particular child.

NoitsNott · 19/07/2022 09:37

Mummyof287 · 19/07/2022 09:33

Absolutely shocked and saddened at the harsh and unkind punitive responses here 😳 🙄 😒 😑

This is a BABY we are talking about....this poor tiny little girl is ONE!

OP sorry to be blunt but your attitude towards your little girl is really bad.The fact you are more concerned about the impact of her crying on the staff rather than her emotional wellbeing, have left her there crying all day every day for months without seemingly having any thought about how upset she is feeling, and think she is doing it for attention, is all incredibly concerning. I think you need to look at taking a course to help you with your parenting and to understand child development (and perhaps take your unhelpful sister along too!) And maybe some support to build your bond with your daughter. I sense that your little girl could likely have an insecure attachment with you...you seem to be viewing her very negatively and expecting way too much from her for her age.Does she actually get much positive attention or 1-1 time with you to play?? Do you cuddle and soothe her when she is upset or just discipline her??

The nursery sounds awful...no child should be left to cry for hours...even once, they should have called you to collect her and if it continued ask you to take her out and try somewhere else for her own welfare.It is NOT normal for children to cry non stop...afew tears at drop off then quickly settle is different (i used to work in a nursery) The fact someone else who works in a nursery thinks it is is worrying.

Nurseries should offer free flow indoor/outdoor play (other than in extreme temperatures) they should never be viewing any child as 'a problem' and should also know that no one year old 'plays up for attention' She is crying because her emotional needs are not being met and she is UNHAPPY!

I would hate to be her right now tbh, and it makes me feel really sad thinking about what she is coping with. Please please take her out the nursery immediately, work on your relationship with her and how you view her.She is your baby, and you are her mummy who she craves love and kindness from, so please give her that.

I know you have work, but surely your child's wellbeing should come before anything? :-/

Look who's talking about being harsh????

Yeah OP doesn't need to work to keep a roof over her children's head! You sound ridiculous!

The situation she's in is hard but don't come for her parenting!

collieresponder88 · 19/07/2022 09:36

Ladymartin · 18/07/2022 18:59

I understand that but as childcare professionals I expect them to be able to cope with a crying child. I take on board what you are saying about the childminder though. I feel like they should be working harder to settle her

Believe me they would have tried very hard because they don't want her screaming all day. It's terrible for staff and horrible and unsettling for the other kids. I think you need to move her

lickenchugget · 19/07/2022 09:35

Mummyof287 · 19/07/2022 09:33

Absolutely shocked and saddened at the harsh and unkind punitive responses here 😳 🙄 😒 😑

This is a BABY we are talking about....this poor tiny little girl is ONE!

OP sorry to be blunt but your attitude towards your little girl is really bad.The fact you are more concerned about the impact of her crying on the staff rather than her emotional wellbeing, have left her there crying all day every day for months without seemingly having any thought about how upset she is feeling, and think she is doing it for attention, is all incredibly concerning. I think you need to look at taking a course to help you with your parenting and to understand child development (and perhaps take your unhelpful sister along too!) And maybe some support to build your bond with your daughter. I sense that your little girl could likely have an insecure attachment with you...you seem to be viewing her very negatively and expecting way too much from her for her age.Does she actually get much positive attention or 1-1 time with you to play?? Do you cuddle and soothe her when she is upset or just discipline her??

The nursery sounds awful...no child should be left to cry for hours...even once, they should have called you to collect her and if it continued ask you to take her out and try somewhere else for her own welfare.It is NOT normal for children to cry non stop...afew tears at drop off then quickly settle is different (i used to work in a nursery) The fact someone else who works in a nursery thinks it is is worrying.

Nurseries should offer free flow indoor/outdoor play (other than in extreme temperatures) they should never be viewing any child as 'a problem' and should also know that no one year old 'plays up for attention' She is crying because her emotional needs are not being met and she is UNHAPPY!

I would hate to be her right now tbh, and it makes me feel really sad thinking about what she is coping with. Please please take her out the nursery immediately, work on your relationship with her and how you view her.She is your baby, and you are her mummy who she craves love and kindness from, so please give her that.

I know you have work, but surely your child's wellbeing should come before anything? :-/

I think yours is the most harsh and unkind response so far, tbh

Mummyof287 · 19/07/2022 09:33

Absolutely shocked and saddened at the harsh and unkind punitive responses here 😳 🙄 😒 😑

This is a BABY we are talking about....this poor tiny little girl is ONE!

OP sorry to be blunt but your attitude towards your little girl is really bad.The fact you are more concerned about the impact of her crying on the staff rather than her emotional wellbeing, have left her there crying all day every day for months without seemingly having any thought about how upset she is feeling, and think she is doing it for attention, is all incredibly concerning. I think you need to look at taking a course to help you with your parenting and to understand child development (and perhaps take your unhelpful sister along too!) And maybe some support to build your bond with your daughter. I sense that your little girl could likely have an insecure attachment with you...you seem to be viewing her very negatively and expecting way too much from her for her age.Does she actually get much positive attention or 1-1 time with you to play?? Do you cuddle and soothe her when she is upset or just discipline her??

The nursery sounds awful...no child should be left to cry for hours...even once, they should have called you to collect her and if it continued ask you to take her out and try somewhere else for her own welfare.It is NOT normal for children to cry non stop...afew tears at drop off then quickly settle is different (i used to work in a nursery) The fact someone else who works in a nursery thinks it is is worrying.

Nurseries should offer free flow indoor/outdoor play (other than in extreme temperatures) they should never be viewing any child as 'a problem' and should also know that no one year old 'plays up for attention' She is crying because her emotional needs are not being met and she is UNHAPPY!

I would hate to be her right now tbh, and it makes me feel really sad thinking about what she is coping with. Please please take her out the nursery immediately, work on your relationship with her and how you view her.She is your baby, and you are her mummy who she craves love and kindness from, so please give her that.

I know you have work, but surely your child's wellbeing should come before anything? :-/

NoitsNott · 19/07/2022 09:25

Pumperthepumper · 18/07/2022 20:24

I’d find a new nursery, or a childminder. She’s absolutely tiny and they’re against her, they sound useless.

New nursery wont change anything. Childminder wont change anything.
I had/have (hes a lot better now) a very clingy, whingy little boy. Wants to be held all day and wan'ts to stay outside and go on walks ALL DAY.

I've been in OP's shoes. We've moved nurseries, moved to child minders. Nothing help! Why? Because the things is as Op has said her DC loves attention and unfortunately you're not gonna find that anywhere. Only OP can give DC all the attention she needs.

All I can say is good luck OP and if she's like mine, she'll grow out of it soon.

KilmordenCastle · 19/07/2022 09:20

Look at it this way,
Either they are crap at their jobs and not doing enough to help her settle. So you should move her to somewhere better.
Or...
They are good at their jobs and have exhausted all ideas to help her settle. So she's obviously just unhappy there and you should move her somewhere else to see if she's happier.

OurChristmasMiracle · 19/07/2022 09:16

Have you spoken with the nursery about what you can also do to help her to settle? I think it probably needs to be a joint effort not just the nursery. It can’t be nice for them to see her distressed all day every day and they may feel exasperated at the fact they have tried different tactics and nothing is working.