To only just realise it was Peter Andre in the wrong not Katie P!

I can't stand PA. I always thought he was abusive in their shows. One episode he was whining on that they hadn't had sex for ages - after it was reported that KP had a miscarriage at the same time he was pestering her for sex. No wonder he was furious the MC story had come out, it exposed him as the misogynistic, abusive fucker he is, but he needn't have worried because people overlooked it just to hammer Katie a little bit more.

Not keen on Katie either, she's her own worst enemy but she isn't pretending to be anything else - he, on the other hand has made a living out of being 'Poor 'loves his kids' Pete!' 🙄

And out of the two of them, who is it with the criminal convictions, with numerous court appearances? Who has had SS at their door? Whose partner has been banned from contact with their children? Who was filmed about "loving the coke?"
Certainly not Peter. HE is the one who has given the two elder children a stable family and upbringing, with a decent education.

Gosh, it's almost as if there were some kind of orchestrated "let's discredit Peter" campaign going at the moment, as some kind of deflection.
Now, who would that be in the interests of?

That footage in LA was an unpleasant snapshot of a relationship that had become toxic and was in its dying throes. Lots of people are not behaving their best at that sort of time. Peter and Katie are no different. I don't think that means that he is abusive. Get some perspective, fgs.

Peter Andre wouldn't be where he is now if he hadn't met Katie in the jungle. She was his meal ticket
He'd still be playing pubs and clubs if it wasn't for her.

Thread being allowed to stand cos we're knocking PA? If we're reading the same thread, there's a lot of KP knocking/hating going on. Nothing justified PA's apparent abuse, there's a lot of handmaidens of the patriarchy on here. I'm suprised MN haven't knocked it on the head for the misogyny, presumably expressed by women on here. Makes me and

Just because she's not a hood mum doesn't take away Peter Andre being a creepy as fuck, lying abuser.

im no fan of KP and most of the time I think she’s awful but I remember watching that show when it aired and thinking Pete was a manipulative, controlling, gaslighting cunt. He’s awful- I don’t get the adoration for him

And what sort of "good mum" calls other mothers and school staff in her child's playground "fucking cunts" in front of all the children, too.
Yeah, great mum.
And is repeatedly caught on camera with her young children in the car without being strapped in to car seats?
Hmm, great mum, yes.
And chooses to remain with the boyfriend that is banned from seeing her children? Come on, this is MN. You KNOW that SS don't do that lightly.

don't forget her revenge porn claim re against Alex Reid (and maybe also data protection - as she was holding personal data- a video- and she allowed it to be revealed), she was liable for misuse of private information too and harrassment.

How the hell has this thread been allowed to stand?

Oh yes! Because it's a man everyone is slagging off.

And Katie Price is a good mum? Don't make me laugh - she is an utter disgrace. Oh, and while we're at it, let's forget to mention the numerous driving convictions she's got, not least for driving at twice the legal limit for alcohol and drugs, whilst already banned. And that's just for the time she's got caught. She is alleged to have been driving on the back roads around her Mucky Mansion all along.s

Everywhere I've read about KP is she has shared access with her kids. Where is this 2 hour supervised àccess she is supposed to have that's only on mumsnet?

I find it odd the friendship/relationship he has with her ex kieron (the younger 2 kids dad.) I get siblings should have relationships and the parents should be civil, but it's like they've forged a "us poor exs of KP" fanclub, where they are "amazing" dad's and she's the villain. Forgetting that Pete treated her like shit and kieron cheated on her repeatedly with other women, two of whom were her best mates!

Sorry that was meant to quote the post about breast feeding!

He wanted to but Dwight York said no, which is ironic given he wanted nothing to do with him.

He said the same about natural birth, which is unfair as KP’s doctor explained on the show Harvey was a big baby and his birth damaged her meaning it was safer to have sections with Junior and Princess.

I’ve also wondered if she may be on the autism spectrum, I’ve worked with a few young women who are that present quite similarly in many ways.

I’ve also always quite liked her, she’s funny and sweet, but clearly isn’t able to function very well and doesn’t understand healthy relationships.

He has always struck me as someone with the rage simmering just beneath the surface. It's the over the top 'niceness' that sometimes cracks to reveal something dark underneath. It doesn't surprise me that he married a woman young enough to be his daughter. Controllable.

It is speculation but it’s more serious, the children witnessed something awful and that’s why access was stopped. There is enough speculation online and info to show a serious police investigation that went on and during this time, access was stopped likely as she went back to her partner after the incidents. I would expect she has been given opportunities to make other choices

I’m not a Peter fan I don’t like him

Peter wasn’t an unknown but he was uncool and a bit of a joke. I gather he had mental health issues depression and eating disorder so he went off the scene as a combination of this. Similar happened to Craig -David after Bo selecta
Peter has said before he was good with his money and had invested it. I was a teen in the 90’s - I remember him very well.

He then wanted a come back so he got on I’m a celeb as a Tv personality but with the intention of reviving his music. His music was still not very cool and quite awful but the Romance was very lucrative so they both ended up down a path that clearly made them both very unhappy. You can see from the documentary that Pete was always trying to keep his music going and she would put him down about it knowing it was a weakness. He was pulling her down as well about her looks and behaviour. I can’t imagine that the Tv show helped either of them or made them happy. Katie wanted a stable family life and a dad for Harvey. It was doomed to fail as it wasn’t a fairytale romance

Pete has managed to find a career in musicals and TV presenting so has a steady income as no one wants to buy his new music (but fans will go see 90’s revival music) and he’s had subtle surgery to look good for his age and he’s kept himself in shape. He has a respectable wife and made friends in TV circles so he’s doing ok.

KP can’t sing and has tried her hand at lots of things including ghost written books and clothes but really her only venture that works for her and earns money is exposing her life all over TV and in tell all memoirs (and now only fans). I don’t know whether this is laziness or bad management, someone who was so lucrative in their clothing and perfume lines shouldn’t really have gone bust so early on but this is in part due to all the bad exposure she gets and bad business and personal decisions. She struggles to be taken seriously as she’s seen as such a car crash, it makes good trash TV material but she has less options as she’s now an actual criminal. Personally I think she tried to do too much too fast, she had bad advice to keep setting up companies and should have just focused on one or 2 areas.

She now mainly only has fans who feel sorry for her and this is not a good fan base. No one should be getting 4 concurrent facelifts by the age of 41, and someone who built a career on modelling is going to struggle to keep that going the more she keeps messing with her face and body which is why she is now having to do really low budget jobs to keep going (currently collaborating on only fans with someone from love island)

she needs better management and to get away from her awful boyfriend but I don’t think that’s what she wants to do

My ex behaves exactly like this, yet SS think he's fine to have access.

Funnily enough the UK isn't the only place in the world and even I know his music did better in Australia than over here and mysterious girl certainly wasn't the kind of music I listened to as a teen

He was a one hit wonder from the 90s who piggybacked on KP’s fame and that’s the literal only reason any of us know who he is now. Mysterious Girl wasn’t even a good song and if he hadn’t met KP he would have been one of the obscure artists in a never mind the buzzcocks line up parade. He was a nobody before he met her.

I feel sorry for her, most if not all of her issues stem from choosing the wrong partner in a desperate bid to be loved/wanted.

He had a career in the 90s hence why he was on I'm a Celeb. Now he is appearing in the west end. So you can't say he made his career from divorcing KP.

What was his 90s career? I'm pretty sure he was famous for 1 song and getting his abs out. He would be about as successful as Chesney Hawkes (ie not particularly) if he hadn't got together with Katie Price

He didn't adopt him and it didn't seem like it was his choice not to continue seeing him at the time