To only just realise it was Peter Andre in the wrong not Katie P!

She was going nowhere but down without hitching her ride to someone else's wagon. Enter ... Pete.

Her career was far from over when she met him. No, she wasn't at the top of her glamour modelling days, but there was certainly still alot of interest in her, she had her own fly on the wall reality series both before she met Pete in 2004 and after they split. He on the other hand had 1 song in 1996, made a couple of follow up singles around the same time then disappeared. By the time he entered the jungle he hadn't been heard of for many years, which for a pop "star" may as well be a lifetime. He didn't really have the career background substance to lift KP any higher at that point.

@mintybobs im talking about now! He still has that management team and she doesn't. It has become more and more apparent what an absolute car crash she is over the last few years, while he is still portrayed as St Peter!

Re-writing history a bit there, @Rosewaterblossom . Katie's career had long since peaked and was sliding south fast at the time of IACGMOOH. Why else would she have gone on, if not to try to resurrect and re-invent herself?
What followed was the TWO of them building a brand based on their relationship and family life TOGETHER. Neither one of them could have done it without the other and they were both equal partners in it going forward, despite her trying to make out she was the main headliner (which was what that row in the segway shop was all about).

When they were together, KP was at the peak of her success. Love her or hate her, at that time she was still making money modelling despite no longer posing nude, was building her brand and successfully became a millionaire. Meanwhile he was a pop star from the 90s who was famous for 1 song and had been out of the limelight for a number of years.

KP was known for being outspoken, tacky and brash, he knew this when they met. He was a nobody when they got together, yet managed to revive a career and public persona off the back of her success. From the videos he put her down, took the piss and acted disgusted by her glamour modelling days. I'm sure she gave as good as she got, but she's not claimed to ever be "Ms nicegirl," whereas he came out of it as though he was some massive victim .

PA would still be known as a 90s one hit wonder had he not got with KP but I doubt he would ever admit that!

Actually, during the reality shows, they both had the same management team- Claire Powell's company. KP then slanderously accused Peter of having an affair with her which she had to then pay damages to him in court for it not being true.

I think they are both toxic. However PA is more intelligent and has a better PR team so Is therefore more equipped to hide his true nature.

For me, the issue is: on those reality programmes, the way she spoke to him was disgusting- like he was a piece of shit on her shoe so actually, I can understand why the camera may have caught him talking to her rudely. It was MUTUAL- they were both awful to each other. She also used to flirt and simper up to other guys on those programmes which I can understand why he felt was disrespectful. So, even if you are only referring to that particular TV show, it still doesnt hold water that PA was the devil and she was some kind of angel. They BOTH came across as vile to each other.

They were both abusive to each other.

It was a highly toxic relationship.

They've both taken very different public paths since and none of us know the full truth as we weren't there but PA has seemingly taken the better path.

"It’s talking about one specific televised argument"
Yes, 15 BLOODY YEARS AGO!! Why bring it up now, unless to deflect from whatever's going on in, or about to be revealed about Katie's current life?
And Peter didn't come out of it well. He was slated for it at the time and since. Their relationship was toxic, particularly by the end and he has taken steps to learn from and to remove himself from that whole unsavoury episode. I'd guess he's pretty ashamed and embarrassed about it all.

And the thread title isn’t saying PA is awful and horrible and KP is a wonderful angel. It’s talking about one specific televised argument where the op originally thought KP came across badly (and she was slated for widely) but in retrospect actually he was behaving really poorly despite somehow coming out of it well.

I haven’t made it his fault. I said that particular behaviour was wrong and weird and I dislike him. I also think her behaviour is generally poor and I pity and dislike her most of the time. Where did I make her behaviour over the last decade his fault? Or did you just invent that?

Its the actual thread title!

And in that case (she is a chaotic person and the children will suffer) the absolute LAST thing the father should do is use the kids to position himself as the ‘good one.’ Making them pawns in it is embarrassing.

but this thread is all about how 'he's a wrong 'un and KP is the good one actually' no?

I don't think the thread is about Katie's train wreck of a life now, which I doubt many would despute is awful. The thread is about how PA did treat her like shit, which several video clips prove, but he's come out the wonderful guy.

The clip of him saying how awful it is to talk and take the piss of someone's anatomy, because it happened to him recently. Yet its on another clip of him taking the piss of KP, saying her a**ehole must be big because she can't feel his dick. He's a hypocrite.

Who is the common denominator in all the failed relationships Katie has had? And yet many of her exes have gone on to have healthy and seemingly happy relationships with other people. Whilst Katie lurches from one chaotic mess to another.
She is the one who needs help (proper help, not fannying around taking selfies outside the Priory), not Peter, who has established a secure and stable family base for two of the kids Katie has effectively abandoned in pursuit of her own demons.

And drink driving multiple times, calling your ex's new wife a gutter slag and getting a restraining order against you, killing several animals in your care due to selfish neglect, not being allowed to see your kids, taking drugs and missing your kids birthdays- all these things KP has done- they ARENT disgusting?

LMFAO

Oh wow, maybe someone needs to show him that clip to remind him he did it too!.
Wow that is low. 😳
He's disgusting.

Oh wow, maybe someone needs to show him that clip to remind him he did it too!

How have you made this his fault? He might be a bit of a cock but he’s got nothing to do with her disgusting behaviour over the past decade!
This thread is utterly bizarre. Hasn’t she even been banned from owning any more animals? - Must be Peters fault! 🤣

I don't know why any man gets involved knowing how the story plays out once the spark dies with KP.

She is one of the most selfish destructive women I have ever heard of.

And in that case (she is a chaotic person and the children will suffer) the absolute LAST thing the father should do is use the kids to position himself as the ‘good one.’ Making them pawns in it is embarrassing.

And all this ‘I love my kids I’m there only for my kids MY KIDS’ is weird. We all love our kids. It’s like basic. It reminds me of that Chris Rock kids about men who brag about ‘some stuff they’re just supposed to do.’ He says they’ll boast ‘I take care of my kids! But that’s what you’re SUPPOSED to do!’

Maybe KP started it? 😂

I agree- this thread is bloody weird. PA might not be as super cheesy as he makes out but he has now settled down in what appears to be a very healthy/stable relationship whilst KP has introduced multiple new step dads to her kids often when theyve barely started seeing each other, taken drugs, lost custody of her own kids, harrassed her ex's new partner, been in court multiple times for dangerous/drink driving and missed her own kids birthdays because she was on yet another holiday with her drug dealing boyfriend. But yeah- how awful is Peter?! WTAF?

Her and her drug dealer boyfriend are doing a travel show? With fabulous tips about where to buy the cheapest, child labour sourced cocaine in Bangkok no doubt.