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To only just realise it was Peter Andre in the wrong not Katie P!

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Macbeth8 · 30/06/2022 23:40

This is a random thread..if you arent interested in Katie and Peter please dont bother reading...
Just had a binge watch of old episodes of Americas Next top model on youtube and it showed me Katie and Peter stateside - their opd documentary..I used to watch it and love them as a couple together. Was gutted when they split but like everyone else at the time I remember thinking how awful Katie was and how she was in the wrong during that infamous massive row they had in that shop in LA.
It pops back up and so I watch it again, near in mind this is after years of me seeing ir. And cant believe it! Its like a brand new argument - completely saw this in a different way.
Pete was the onein the wrong, not Katie. In fact he was awful, actually abusive? Swearing at her calling her a f*king b**ch, "a cow", "you think youre gonna get away with it?"
Bleeding hell, if this isnt abusive I dont know what is! Im more in shock because I remember all the stick KP got, the hate campaign and the "team Pete" . He deserves a medal and all that bollocks.
It just doesnt make sense. How can anyone see it for what itnwas? In fact watching it again, KP hardly spoke..it was all Pete winding her uo, qlmost goading her and then blasting her when she bit back at him..Im just really shocked I guess....😶 makes you wonder how things can get so easily misrepresented.
What does everyone think?

OP posts:
b0wser · 01/07/2022 07:49

It's quite shocking that ITV2 aired so much downright abusive gaslighting behaviour. The clips on that TikTok page are awful and uncomfortable to watch.

KP seems quieter and calmer back then, she was clearly in quite a vulnerable position.

The managers, blonde and dark haired ladies, were very much team Pete after the divorce and I suspect they had a lot to do with it all.

Highfivemum · 01/07/2022 07:49

So you have a link to this ? We all never know wot goes on behind closed doors

charlieturner · 01/07/2022 07:47

I found a site called tattle life with a thread devoted to Katie Price. I was a big fan of hers but reading the wiki about her on there has given me a lot of doubts. Has anyone else read the wiki as it seems to be factual? It seems they were as bad as each other.

Miffee · 01/07/2022 07:38

I'm another 40 odd year old who has fallen into tiktok. This stuff keeps popping up. I paid zero attention to it at the time.

To clarify is what is showing on tiktok now exactly what was shown at the time yet people perceived him as the victim?

ReneBumsWombats · 01/07/2022 07:36

Perfect victims anywhere are rare.

Strawberries86 · 01/07/2022 07:33

Just watched some clips. He is awful. I never realised.

Trixiefirecracker · 01/07/2022 07:32

I think they were awful to each other and sure there could easily be a til tok compilation of KP being an arsehole to Peter too. I mean the woman is vile. As is he.

Earpieced · 01/07/2022 07:30

Some of the girls from the playboy mansion gave an interview that when Harvey was a baby, she left him to go to the playboy mansion in the US for ‘work’ and when she was there she got so inebriated on drugs and alcohol they were afraid she might die.
This is before Pete
I watch those videos on Tiktok and he’s being absolutely horrible to her and she looks really depressed and detached. I’ve never doubted she has mental health problems and Pete made them so much worse. He is/was an insecure man and the way he pressured her for sex was really awful. I don’t like him he’s just got good PR and he’s grown up a bit.

But she has committed crimes like drink & drug driving whilst banned and given up/lost custody of her kids choosing men, surgery, fame and holidays over having a stable life with her children so I don’t see how you can say this is all ‘mens’ fault and she means well and is a great mum. She’s chosen to stay with her current man even thought it’s meant she’s lost almost all her custody. She goes on holiday on all of her kids birthdays, first days of school, she doesn’t put seatbelts on them in the car, she admits she never does homework with them and she has embroiled princess in at least 3 very scary and inappropriate incidents (princess being present or involved with Katie’s man drama).

If a man behaved like Katie has the past 10 years you wouldn’t want your kids having unsupervised access, much of this more recent situation is her own fault. I can’t believe she keeps having surgery, it’s making her look so bizarre and she needs to stop going to cheap surgeons as they do not have her best interests at heart just publicity. I agree she has issues and I do feel sorry for her, but more so for her kids especially the little two

Prettypussy · 01/07/2022 07:23

Can you link to the video OP?

Sceptre86 · 01/07/2022 07:23

Both were in a toxic relationship. If you rewatch the show you will see how abusive she was to him. Neither came up smelling of roses. The show was heavily edited and scenes were created for dramatic purposes, I'm sure that was stated somewhere so it wasn't all actually real!

He made a second career off the back of his relationship with her and never acknowledges that, which I don't like. He doesn't talk about her in public and nor should he. I'm sure I read all her kids now live with their perspective fathers and Harvey is living in a residential place. She's not in the best of places. So many men have used her and thrown her away and I think for all the bravado she is actually an insecure person.

Fizbosshoes · 01/07/2022 07:20

I think they both come across as extremely unlikeable.
I've not been convinced she's a great mum but I think she has a lot of psychological issues that are likely exploited by others for "entertainment" when actually she would be better off getting professional help (privately rather than in the spotlight)

itsgettingweird · 01/07/2022 07:19

Geneviev · 01/07/2022 01:35

Is it ok to dislike both of them and just think they are both just massive spoiled entitled cunts, but in their own way?

I hope so - because I agree with this Grin

itsgettingweird · 01/07/2022 07:16

TruJay · 30/06/2022 23:57

I’ve never been keen on him and thought Katie got so much stick and the blame for everything. I’ve always liked Katie, she’s a bloody good
mum. Very strong dealing with what she has.
I haven’t seen the clips or programme you mention but I’ve always felt she got a rough deal in the aftermath of their relationship.

I agree that the videos show Pete in a light that wasn't shine clearly decades ago.

However an amazing mum? Can't deny that I once thought that and do agree she's been great for Harvey in many ways.

However she isn't a generally great mum. And I hate with a passion how she's now using Harvey for meet and greats to make money for herself. That poor lad. He doesn't have the ability to properly consent to this.

Shlomping1234 · 01/07/2022 07:13

I've always hated him and how the wingey little prick would use the media to get them on his side by crying how much he loves his kids. Very manipulative .

DingleyDel · 01/07/2022 07:12

Elfblossom · 01/07/2022 06:46

She's a better Mum than Dwight York is a Dad!

Or Peter Andre ... a 'good Dad' doesn't abuse his children's Mother, he doesn't manipulate situations, he doesn't deliberately cause distress to the Mum because he knows that impacts his children.

When you look back at Kates life, I'm not sure how anyone with an ounce of humanity fails to see that she was manipulated from the get go, right back to her teenage years she was groomed and exploited .

I was at the time of her relationship with Andre, A lone voice pointing out that he was abusive ... Andre playing the victim and turning the media even further in the misogynistic frenzy, against Kate fueled the breakdown of her sanity.

Its clear to anyone with more than a passing interest in Psychology that Kate has issues and they've only gotten worse to the point where she finally spiralled out of control on hearing of her beloved Mums terminal illness.

Some people love to blame Katie for everything and yes, she absolutely has some responsibility to carry but those fingers should be firmly pointed at the real villains - the men who've used and exploited her and still do!

Andre still dines out on playing the martyr & victim when he needs a bit of publicity.

He's a creep at best and if the truth came out, a lot worse.

I totally agree. PA seems like a nasty piece of work. It’s always made me uncomfortable. I’ve always had a soft spot for KP. When you think what she’s gone through in her life you have to admire her tenacity. She’s always tried hard with her family, to earn money, and always shown her true self. It’s sad to see her addictions to drugs and awful men bring her down. She’s been used and abused pretty much her whole life.

Rabblemum · 01/07/2022 07:10

Only a passing interest in Katie but I always wondered about Pete. Katie seemed honest and as blunt as a brick while Pete seemed fake. Men get an easier ride in some cases of domestic abuse.

This situation remains me of my horrible relationship, I'm honest blunt while he seemed to know what to say. My ex won a lot of people over.

A woman needs to be the perfect victim to be believed, perfect people don't exist.

Queenoftheashes · 01/07/2022 07:09

I always thought he was a bit of a prick for the way he left her - publicly, right after a miscarriage and didn’t say much but implied she was a piece of shit in the most poisonous way. Agree she has issues and shit taste in men.

CanofCant · 01/07/2022 07:08

He's a total snake. It's nice to see that others realise this too.

Spritelite · 01/07/2022 07:07

I think it’s because the world has really woken up in the past 20 years when it comes to abuse. Red flags, gaslighting, narcissistic behaviour, emotional abuse, manipulation etc weren’t things that were discussed openly. Abuse just meant physical violence to a lot of people back then, and women like Katie were just seen as nutters for reacting so emotionally.

Squareflair · 01/07/2022 07:07

Beefcurtains79 · 01/07/2022 07:03

I’m not saying he wasn’t? Just that there is plenty of evidence and many examples of her being abusive herself.

Ah that makes it okay then.

wotsitsaremyfave · 01/07/2022 07:06

Theyre both awful dickheads

They don't deserve all the attention they receive (solicit)

190190tnt · 01/07/2022 07:05

Neither are angels. Although PA has definitely come out of this appearing as the good guy, but the first time I questioned this, was reading in one of KP's books that he was talking to his brother in front of her and he referred to her as 'it' - nasty, demeaning....

Beefcurtains79 · 01/07/2022 07:03

Squareflair · 01/07/2022 06:59

That doesn't mean Andre wasn't abusive though, people are invariably not 'perfect victims'. She desperately needs help, but as is the system in this country, they'd rather just keep arresting someone than offering any tangible help or support. She used to seem to be a good mum before she started unraveling in public view where people kept sticking the knife in.

I’m not saying he wasn’t? Just that there is plenty of evidence and many examples of her being abusive herself.

WhereTheLightMeetsTheSea · 01/07/2022 07:01

He was abusive to her, it’s there to see. I can’t stand him. I don’t understand anyone that is taken in by him at all. He oozes awful traits whilst telling you how great he is. And people believe it, I really don’t get it. His relationship with the new wife seems odd to me. She seems impressed by him and feeds his ego. He seems almost as impressed by her being a doctor. It’s all just very weird.

It’s very difficult to like Katie Price either. Introducing so many partners to her children so quickly is just wrong, but I do think she’s quite a vulnerable person underneath it all. The drink driving is unforgivable though.

It’s all been very messy and anyone in their right mind would avoid them all.

mintybobs · 01/07/2022 07:00

There may have been times when he bit back for sure but I watched all their katie and peter documentaries and she spoke to him constantly like he was a piece of shit. She was always belittling him in front of the cameras and criticising him all the time. If you did see him be rude back, it definitely was not one sided.

I also went to school with her and that was basically her character. Not a nice person even back then.

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