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Scentedstock · 19/06/2022 18:14

Is it me or are men becoming increasingly pornsick?

I met a man yesterday for drinks and decided to go back to mines. I was sexually attracted to him, felt safe but knew a relationship would not be on the cards (incompatible). I was horny so went ahead for shag - something about the summer heat.

Sex was great - hot and steamy BUT during the heat of it all he put his finger in my bum. No discussion. I asked him about it and he said ‘woman like it - do you want me to stop?’ To which he immediately did.

is it just me or are men becoming increasingly blatant with these porn type moves when you have only just met? Maybe I am naive. AIBU to feel men should stop pulling these weird moves during a fling. It just seems to expected now a days. I just want a bit of missionary and a glass of wine to liven up my weekend - not feel like an extra in a porn movie.

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Whodoiwanttobe · 21/06/2022 12:15

PurpleButterflyWings · 21/06/2022 11:27

100% agree with @Whodoiwanttobe I know it doesn't sit well with some posters on here - saying something like this poster said, but trust me, plenty of people will be thinking it.

I’m glad! I can’t change my mind and feel differently. We are all entitled to our opinion and that’s mine.

AchatAVendre · 21/06/2022 12:02

JustLyra · 21/06/2022 11:38

So sexual assault is ok on one night stands for you because the person should accept that if they have sex with a stranger?

And what about in the OP's case where it's a ONS with someone who isn't a stranger? Is that more or less acceptable to have unwanted things inflicted on you?

No wonder rape and sexual assault convictions are so low if people with such views are so prevelant.

Perhaps that poster is under the mistaken impression that having sex with people known well to you is some kind of guarantee of safety...how unrealistic all round.

FunDragon · 21/06/2022 11:50

Whodoiwanttobe · 21/06/2022 09:17

Another what? Person who has some respect for myself! I literally don’t know why you’d be surprised.. a finger up the bum is prob the least of your worries!!

I suppose your view is quite refreshing. You’re saying that all men are dangerous animals who don’t understand consent (and even if they do they’ll ignore it), so what on earth did OP expect by having a ONS - she was lucky it was just a finger up the bum? To be honest, I’m so sick of hearing people bleat ‘NAMALT’ about male violence that it almost makes a welcome change to hear someone at least acknowledge that yes, all men are like that.

JustLyra · 21/06/2022 11:38

PurpleButterflyWings · 21/06/2022 11:31

@Scentedstock

This thread proves the madonna whore complex is not isolated to men.

Wrong. I would have exactly the same thoughts about a MAN who had a one night stand with a stranger, and then came onto a message forum complaining that she tried to do something he classed as 'non-vanilla.'

So sexual assault is ok on one night stands for you because the person should accept that if they have sex with a stranger?

And what about in the OP's case where it's a ONS with someone who isn't a stranger? Is that more or less acceptable to have unwanted things inflicted on you?

No wonder rape and sexual assault convictions are so low if people with such views are so prevelant.

PurpleButterflyWings · 21/06/2022 11:31

@Scentedstock

This thread proves the madonna whore complex is not isolated to men.

Wrong. I would have exactly the same thoughts about a MAN who had a one night stand with a stranger, and then came onto a message forum complaining that she tried to do something he classed as 'non-vanilla.'

PurpleButterflyWings · 21/06/2022 11:27

100% agree with @Whodoiwanttobe I know it doesn't sit well with some posters on here - saying something like this poster said, but trust me, plenty of people will be thinking it.

AchatAVendre · 21/06/2022 10:44

And tbh OP I would report him to the police for sexual assault if it were me. People should not tolerate this. Unlikely to result in a successful prosecution but I'm bearing in mind that I'm a lawyer and perhaps have a difference experience of being taken seriously by the police than many others (should not be the case and not infallible). Also difficult to do when you simply want to get on with your life and forget the little creep.

Scentedstock · 21/06/2022 10:39

AchatAVendre · 21/06/2022 10:30

Its clear that the issue of consent isn't properly (a) legislated and (b) enforced. If you have sex, you do not consent to sex within all orifices or other practices, such as choking. Like with vaginal intercourse, permission should be sought. But we can't even prosecute rape properly so what hope is there for this? Its so antiquated. I hope people in 100 years time will look back and be astonished at the lack of protection for female bodies as we are when we look back aghast on things like women not being allowed to own property on their own.

In fact, consent is now increasingly used as a defence in cases of sexual assault/rape/strangulation causing death. And no-one can give a cogent explanation as to why the special measures introduced for witnesses giving evidence in rape and sexual assault cases aren't generally used (e.g. giving evidence behind screens, recording of evidence, etc).

This very mundane case always stuck in my mind: vocal.media/criminal/man-convicted-of-indecent-assault-after-grabbing-woman-s-breasts-during-consensual-intercourse. A medical student was convicted of indecent assault after injuring a woman's breasts during intercourse so badly that she was was unable to go to work for days afterwards due to pain. The conviction was overturned on appeal, largely due to lack of evidence as to lack of consent. It happened in Jersey, and it seems that the magistrate likely got the issue if not the standard of proof correct first time round but that might not even have happened elsewhere in the UK. if you read some of the social media comments on the case at the time, its clear that many, many men simply do not understand the law concerning consent or simply don't care because its near impossible to enforce. Its a recurring problem in rape and sexual assault cases and the law clearly needs to be clarified and updated to protect women. Penetrating the anus without consent clearly is sexual assault/rape but as it stands it would be well nigh impossible to prosecute in the absence of serious and perhaps permanently disabling injury, and even then it would be debatable.

And considering the fact many WOMAN here (general public) have the assumption I went home with a stranger, have no respect for myself and what do I expect. I despair.

I hold my hands up and say nothing will change in this lifetime. This thread proves the madonna whore complex is not isolated to men.

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AchatAVendre · 21/06/2022 10:30

Its clear that the issue of consent isn't properly (a) legislated and (b) enforced. If you have sex, you do not consent to sex within all orifices or other practices, such as choking. Like with vaginal intercourse, permission should be sought. But we can't even prosecute rape properly so what hope is there for this? Its so antiquated. I hope people in 100 years time will look back and be astonished at the lack of protection for female bodies as we are when we look back aghast on things like women not being allowed to own property on their own.

In fact, consent is now increasingly used as a defence in cases of sexual assault/rape/strangulation causing death. And no-one can give a cogent explanation as to why the special measures introduced for witnesses giving evidence in rape and sexual assault cases aren't generally used (e.g. giving evidence behind screens, recording of evidence, etc).

This very mundane case always stuck in my mind: vocal.media/criminal/man-convicted-of-indecent-assault-after-grabbing-woman-s-breasts-during-consensual-intercourse. A medical student was convicted of indecent assault after injuring a woman's breasts during intercourse so badly that she was was unable to go to work for days afterwards due to pain. The conviction was overturned on appeal, largely due to lack of evidence as to lack of consent. It happened in Jersey, and it seems that the magistrate likely got the issue if not the standard of proof correct first time round but that might not even have happened elsewhere in the UK. if you read some of the social media comments on the case at the time, its clear that many, many men simply do not understand the law concerning consent or simply don't care because its near impossible to enforce. Its a recurring problem in rape and sexual assault cases and the law clearly needs to be clarified and updated to protect women. Penetrating the anus without consent clearly is sexual assault/rape but as it stands it would be well nigh impossible to prosecute in the absence of serious and perhaps permanently disabling injury, and even then it would be debatable.

JustLyra · 21/06/2022 10:13

Whodoiwanttobe · 21/06/2022 09:17

Another what? Person who has some respect for myself! I literally don’t know why you’d be surprised.. a finger up the bum is prob the least of your worries!!

Staying that a woman who has a ONS doesn’t have respect for herself is such a nasty attitude.

women have so far to go when even other women hold such attitudes

FunDragon · 21/06/2022 10:12

Some of these posts are absolutely sick.

So once a woman’s consented to penis in vagina sex with someone she’s not in a relationship with, that means she’s consented to the man doing anything to her body? Anal sex? Being tied up? Being penetrated with a foreign object? Being choked? Or is it just a finger up her bum that she’s assumed to have accepted through her slatternly conduct?

Scentedstock · 21/06/2022 09:54

Whodoiwanttobe · 21/06/2022 09:17

Another what? Person who has some respect for myself! I literally don’t know why you’d be surprised.. a finger up the bum is prob the least of your worries!!

The assumption is he is was a stranger (he wasnt)

the next assumption is I put myself in a dangerous situation knowingly (i didnt)

the next assumption is a woman who partakes in a one night stand has no respect for herself -( I have respect for myself in bucket loads) and respect should not be isolated to sexual encounters if you feel respect is gained through not having sex with a man you are leading a very narrow minded life - the majority of men are socialised to see us as second class citizens anyway and only the most developed and aware men are aware of their own thoughts on this - sex or not

the next assumption is that you should trust people (men) who are not strangers - look up the statistics on rape and domestic violence usually it is not a stranger

my post was highlighting the change in attitudes during sex and if porn / internet was to blame for this not to pick apart my own choices about my body and what I do or do not consent to

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Whodoiwanttobe · 21/06/2022 09:17

Scentedstock · 21/06/2022 08:32

Oh ffs
another one - thank you.

Another what? Person who has some respect for myself! I literally don’t know why you’d be surprised.. a finger up the bum is prob the least of your worries!!

Scentedstock · 21/06/2022 08:32

Whodoiwanttobe · 21/06/2022 07:00

IMO you’re having sex with a stranger so you’re trusting them without even knowing them. You don’t know them, they don’t know you and can and may do anything. I’m not saying it’s ok but you’re putting yourself in a dangerous situation so what exactly do you expect? I can’t imagine letting a stranger touch me let alone penetrate me! Maybe have more respect for yourself?

Oh ffs
another one - thank you.

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Mincingfuckdragon · 21/06/2022 07:06

Haha, I haven't bought the image rights and I'm in Aus so it probably won't work out, but I do love the idea!

Whodoiwanttobe · 21/06/2022 07:00

Scentedstock · 19/06/2022 21:08

The fundamental point I was making is that how hard is to just have a normal one night stand as two grown ups? Without something weird happening? Like them shoving a finger up your bum. I am not against anal sex. I am not ‘vanilla’ for just wanting normal sex with an almost stranger.

i think the point I am trying to make as a sexually active woman who likes sex and likes men is that it is becoming apparent to me and my female cis heterosexual friends that these things are now happening routinely - rather that it being a oddity once off - it seems most encounters with men now a days they casually do something that only several years ago they would have been far more hesistant to do so (one night stand or not). Iyswim

IMO you’re having sex with a stranger so you’re trusting them without even knowing them. You don’t know them, they don’t know you and can and may do anything. I’m not saying it’s ok but you’re putting yourself in a dangerous situation so what exactly do you expect? I can’t imagine letting a stranger touch me let alone penetrate me! Maybe have more respect for yourself?

Goldencarp · 21/06/2022 06:54

“Women like it”?! Oh dear. No you’re not unreasonable. That’s just a weird thing to do without some sort of discussion.

Scentedstock · 21/06/2022 05:16

Mincingfuckdragon · 21/06/2022 03:17

I'm a bit late, but loved the tshirt idea so...😁

Omfg! Pm me! I want it

you know you have made it in life when A MN creates a tshirt of your post

ps I will not be seeing him again 😂🍑

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Mincingfuckdragon · 21/06/2022 03:17

I'm a bit late, but loved the tshirt idea so...😁

Finger in bum
PurpleButterflyWings · 20/06/2022 22:46

Crankley · 20/06/2022 22:20

I can't tell you how thrilled I am to be too old to be dating and having ONSs.

If you see this bloke again, OP, tell him you've bought a strap on since you thought men liked it.

Why does she need a strap on finger?

Coz that's what he put in her anus - his finger.

Crankley · 20/06/2022 22:20

I can't tell you how thrilled I am to be too old to be dating and having ONSs.

If you see this bloke again, OP, tell him you've bought a strap on since you thought men liked it.

moredogsthansense · 20/06/2022 22:11

Sorry, posting issues. To quote earlier poster: ducks in the park won’t be aware that the anus and vagina are separate orifices, because for them they’re not. They have a single opening called a cloaca, which everything is plumbed into, including a retractable penis in males.

moredogsthansense · 20/06/2022 22:04

stuntbubbles · 19/06/2022 20:47

And I think even the ducks in the park are aware that the vagina and the anus are two different orifices. Ideally I like the men I sleep with to have that awareness too, both for consent purposes and also, y’know, basic skills. A man who thinks “it’s all just fingering down there at the end of the day, innit” doesn’t seem like someone who’d be able to identify a clitoris in a line-up.

Ducks in the park won’t be aware that

PurpleButterflyWings · 20/06/2022 21:45

FlippityFlapperty · 20/06/2022 20:54

I think a lot of men are not exploring women’s bodies in a way which is sensual or attentive /
responsive to how the woman herself is actually reacting. Instead, it’s like some have a mental tickbox of stuff that they see in porn and think great sex is a session which includes as much as possible. So then you get spitting on vulvas, choking, fingers up arses, slapping vulvas and arses, constantly moving positions, no clitoral stimulation, heads being pushed onto dicks for oral, and all without knowing that the woman wants any of it. YANBU. It’s shit sex.

AT least we know what kind of stuff YOU watch now @FlippityFlapperty

WooFighters · 20/06/2022 21:04

A finger of fudge is just enough to make a girl retreat.
Bleurgh.

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