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To be furious with daughters school.

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Incognitomum11 · 15/06/2022 07:07

Year 6 daughter. I came to pick her up yesterday from after school club to find that they had cancelled the club and my daughter had stood waiting for me for an hour, by the side of the road, all alone.

she walks from school and I pick her up from the small village on her request, to give her some independence in preparation for secondary soon.
I have a new job and have specifically given the school instructions to contact me on my work number because I have zero reception or internet at work.

BUT the school hadn’t even attempted to contact the parents to say the after school club had been cancelled.
they had only sent an email.

When I later looked at the email it clearly says “Please can you reply to this email to confirm you have received it.”
and normally they phone to check if they dont hear back.

but they hadn’t, they had told her I had been made aware and let her leave at usual time.

AIBU to be furious with them?

I know some of you may think that year 6 she should be able to deal with this but she had no phone and no money.

and in future, yea I will make sure she has a phone with her to school.

OP posts:
zingally · 15/06/2022 17:02

Goodskin46 · 15/06/2022 07:31

It's not ideal, but we are in the last term of the school year and she is year6. If she usually takes herself home perhaps the school would assume she would do just that (does she have a key ?). Also it was a warm sunny day yesterday so an hour waiting outside (assuming she had a book?) isn't really the end of the world. So close to the end of year 6 I'd say it was becoming the DC's responsibility.

I'm inclined to agree.

A year 6 who, to all intents and purposes, "walks home" - does the school actually know that she doesn't walk home, but in fact goes to a designated meeting place? I can guess that, as they know DD walks home, would have naturally assumed that she just... walked home?

Lesson learned though, she needs a phone and/or a plan for when things go tits up. I wouldn't go in all guns blazing though.

ChoiceMummy · 15/06/2022 16:56

Also, @Incognitomum11 given she's y6, why did she leave the school and not go to the office and ask for you to be contacted? Given she's off to secondary, it's concerning that she didn't...

ChoiceMummy · 15/06/2022 16:55

Incognitomum11 · 15/06/2022 15:49

@GoldenSongbird byt I have given them a working landline and my sister is emergency contact but the school failed to ring either of us, they just sent an email, which tk me is unacceptable

Who runs the ASC? Is it actually the school or just on school property?

NumberTheory · 15/06/2022 16:44

I think the school’s actions were well below the standard you should be able to expect. They failed in several ways - email isn’t the ideal choice, especially since you’ve informed them you don’t have Internet access during the day. They attempted to handle this by asking parents to confirm they’d received the email, but anyone with experience knows that doesn’t work well with most of the public and they clearly didn’t track responses and then follow up with those who hadn’t replied. They also falsely told your DD you had been made aware and let her leave with that false understanding.

it’s a safeguarding concern and certainly something to follow up about.

However, as you also seem to have now realised, it’s not just the school whose plans failed to allow for imperfection. This incident has highlighted that your own pick up practices aren’t robust and don’t have a way for you or your DD to handle things not going to plan. A phone for DD is one tool. You should probably also make sure she knows a couple of phone numbers by heart and has an idea of how to get home or to some other safe place by herself.

TheTurn0fTheScrew · 15/06/2022 16:09

It's a really big fuck up, and needs raising. But I do think when they're making their own way home you need some plan B discussions, for example what if you'd been delayed by a road accident or something else unexpected. If you don't give her a phone she should have a watch and a cut-off time by which she should return to school.

SueSaid · 15/06/2022 15:59

Incognitomum11 · 15/06/2022 15:49

@GoldenSongbird byt I have given them a working landline and my sister is emergency contact but the school failed to ring either of us, they just sent an email, which tk me is unacceptable

It is unacceptable we all agree.

Do you agree though that if you are attempting to foster independence you need fo teach your dd what to do in unexpected situations?

Incognitomum11 · 15/06/2022 15:49

@GoldenSongbird byt I have given them a working landline and my sister is emergency contact but the school failed to ring either of us, they just sent an email, which tk me is unacceptable

OP posts:
letsnotdothat · 15/06/2022 15:15

The school absolutely should have informed you. My DS is year 7 and his secondary school always messages to tell us if clubs are cancelled, it’s on the school app so I get a notification I can’t miss. They shouldn’t have sent an email when it was such short notice, not everyone checks them often. It should have been a quick phone call to let everyone know. She definitely needs a phone in future though to avoid something like this recurring.

GoldenSongbird · 15/06/2022 15:06

riesenrad · 15/06/2022 11:44

I agree with this except for the OP not being contactable. She is contactable. it's no harder to call a landline than it is a mobile. The school messed up.

But I agree there should be contingency plans in case the OP can't get to her dd on time or at all (although it's only for a few more weeks).

It isn't harder to call a landline but if there's a problem with the line or it's engaged, then OP is uncontactable. Schools usually ask for three means of contact - landline; mobile; email. They expect at least two. The problem with OP's new job is that there's no back-up if there's a problem with the landline. That's why OP has to consider every eventuality and think about another network; a signal booster; or changing who is the priority emergency contact.

Sqeebling · 15/06/2022 15:02

Why didn't she walk home or ask the school to call you

Goldenbear · 15/06/2022 14:15

Yes, at DDs school, it is year 5.

PetraBP · 15/06/2022 13:30

My DD’s school allow students to walk home from Y3 (though I won’t be letting DD walk home on her own next year- seems too early).

I would give her a basic phone and an emergency £5 never to be used for anything other than emergencies though.

Dixiechickonhols · 15/06/2022 13:28

Goodskin46 the girl is yr 6 so 10 or nearly 11. Her mum and school are happy for her to leave unaccompanied. Most primary schools let yr 6 walk home alone. My local primary does. It seems popular time to start a bit of independence to get ready for yr 7 when they might have to walk further or get a bus etc.
Better to have happened now on a light summer evening in a village.

Goodskin46 · 15/06/2022 13:21

It is June your yr 7 cannot be just 11 if you are in England. If a child at the end of yr7 cannot walk home without friends there is a problem.

fUNNYfACE36 · 15/06/2022 13:18

She should know to go back into school and tell reception or find a teacher if there is a hiccup in their collection arrangements. It is drummed into their heads from the star. Ifeally the school should have phoned you. Bit if you have an arrangement whereby your kid leaves school unaccompanied you cant really blame the school.i can't believe you haven't drilled her on what to do if you are not there

Chouetted · 15/06/2022 13:15

SueSaid · 15/06/2022 13:03

'YANBU OP, that she is in year 7 in September is irrelevant, some year 6's are 10 still, my year 7 DD has just turned 11 and I would not be happy about this as at this age'

She doesn't have to be happy with it she has to accept in life mistakes are made sadly and as a responsible parent she needs to equip her dd with the tools on how to manage. To stand alone for an hour is crazy. Kids should have contact numbers and the ability to think for themselves.

I have to admit that I am surprised no-one appears to have stopped and asked if she was ok. A kid standing around for an hour should be very noticeable in a village.

I have a vivid memory of the day the school bus was (very) late, and the lady whose house I'd been standing outside came out to let me know what time it was and did I need her to ring anyone for me?

LouisRenault · 15/06/2022 13:07

....when I got home my DS was sitting on the doorstop. He had sat there for 40 mins.

Surely the solution to that is to give him a front door key, or have a key safe, so he can let himself in?

SueSaid · 15/06/2022 13:03

'YANBU OP, that she is in year 7 in September is irrelevant, some year 6's are 10 still, my year 7 DD has just turned 11 and I would not be happy about this as at this age'

She doesn't have to be happy with it she has to accept in life mistakes are made sadly and as a responsible parent she needs to equip her dd with the tools on how to manage. To stand alone for an hour is crazy. Kids should have contact numbers and the ability to think for themselves.

Goldenbear · 15/06/2022 12:46

YANBU OP, that she is in year 7 in September is irrelevant, some year 6's are 10 still, my year 7 DD has just turned 11 and I would not be happy about this as at this age I only let her walk to school with a friend at the time everyone is walking to school, so loads of adults and parents of younger ones on route. I would never allow her to stand around fro an hour on her own, it is a completely different scenario. There is proportionate independence for a primary school aged child. Even in year 7 my son walked home on his own but there is an expectation of a regular routine that you know of, one time he didn't return and I didn't sit around thinking wrll he is in year 7, I was ringing around, texting people I thought he might be with and it turns out he decided to go to a friend's house I didn't know. I would say even now I am slightly anxious when DS who is 15 has not returned at the time I expect, or he is not there when I get home from work as it is not in line with expectations. Obviously, he has usually gone to a friend's house or the park but he doesn't always text me or reply to my texts to let me know. It is

SueSaid · 15/06/2022 12:24

Hankunamatata · 15/06/2022 10:03

You have arranged pick up outside schools control. You need to make sure she has a way to contact you.

This.

If you want to foster some independence then she needs to have and understand contingency plans. That isn't walking to the village and hope her dm has been informed it is giving her means to contact you if you aren't there. Yes you'll now give her a mobile but once they are at an age they are doing stuff alone that is when you give them mobiles, not when problems arise.

Take this as a wake up call. Also if you aren't always contactable she needs the number or address of a family friend or relative to go to in events like this.

Did a year 6 dc really stand waiting for an hour?!

Summerfun54321 · 15/06/2022 12:05

I was about to be furious for you then remembered loads of this kind of stuff happening in year 7. It stems from a lack of maturity or information on your daughters part about what to do if her journey home is disrupted in any way. What to do if her bus is cancelled (if she’ll be getting the bus home from secondary), if she meets someone threatening on the way home, if it’s dark after school and she doesn’t feel safe walking where she is, if someone offers her a lift home that wasn’t planned….. all of this needs to be discussed and it’s her responsibility to act sensibly. If she isn’t sensible, she shouldn’t be making her way home come by herself come September when it’ll be getting darker in the evenings.

strawberry2017 · 15/06/2022 11:58

Your daughter is going to high school in a few months, she needs to take some responsibility herself. She could have spoken up.

RubricEnemy · 15/06/2022 11:58

The school messed up and did not follow its own procedures (make sure parent has read the email). I'd complain about that.

However this is a big growing-up moment, and being livid with the school makes it seem to dd like she isn't ready for independence. She'll be in secondary a couple of months from now.

What can you praise about dd's actions? And what should she have done differently? She's at the very end of Y6, and should have the tools to assess the situation and think of a safe, sensible solution, whether that is going back to school or to a friend.

She is safe and well (no thanks to the school), so she deserves credit for handling herself. Also pointers on what to do better.

cockadooodledoo · 15/06/2022 11:52

Not good enough, they shouldn't have released any kids until parents confirmed they had received the message.

viques · 15/06/2022 11:47

bridgetreilly · 15/06/2022 10:13

They should have phoned. But YABU to be furious about it. The reason your daughter was waiting on her own for an hour was the ridiculous arrangement you seem to have every single day. If she regularly leaves school on her own to walk to the next village, without money or a phone, then this situation is entirely predictable and you should have thought about it before now.

I agree, there is fault on both sides, so raising it with the school to firm up their contact system is a good idea, but your arrangement with your dd had “potential for disaster” written all over it and you should have thought it through better and had a back up plan.