Permanent exclusion-how do I find a new school that will take an excluded child?

I don't agree with this.

OP has repeatedly said what her DD has done is awful and she's gutted she's done it.

But it's also fair enough she's reflecting how sad it it that her dd has lost her way and become the person she is now.

You can hate your child's behaviour whilst still living and worrying for them because their your child.

And where are the mythical PRU places?

This. I don't know the back story as haven't seen the other threads people are mentioning but I have a friend who teaches at an online British international school. She says there are more and more of them opening now since covid and a lot of the kids that are enrolling at hers this year are in the UK rather than expats but for a range of reasons regular school isn't working for them. Worth looking into. But as a teacher too, I would think repeating year 10 is going to be essential as sounds like she's missed a lot.

The view of rolling hills and ancient woodlands has clearly done nothing for your daughter, so maybe a change will help. She needs to reflect on the fact that she is fortunate not to be in youth custody.

I'm sorry you are going through this OP - it sounds horrendous. While the fair access protocols exist to help pupils who have been excluded find a school, there are limits.

Your daughter's behaviour sounds extreme and she is a danger to others - violently attacking other pupils and sending messages to the point that the police are involved goes beyond a teenager being challenging. She has, ultimately, committed a crime.

I think a PRU is the most likely option and it may be best for your daughter. The staff in PRUs are trained to deal with challenging pupils and the groups are very small.

I hope a solution is found 🌺

I feel for you as her parent. Your devastation comes across in the posts, and I can see you want better and brighter things for your child.

Ultimately, I think I'd take a huge step back and let her face the consequences of her actions. Whilst she's always got people in her corner, excusing her behaviour, she won't change. Maybe she doesn't want to change, and that's on her.

At 15, she knows right from wrong. She's a violent thug. Her behaviour is abhorrent and she needs to learn the reality. Personally, I wish the law was harsher on dealing with violence committed by teens. Maybe she'd buck up if she could see she was destroying her own life by not receiving an education and getting a criminal record.

It's saddening to know her victims have suffered this, by being physically attacked and the cyber bullying telling someone to kill themselves. I was bullied for years. It never leaves you, and causes so many issues. Your daughter is ruining many lives.

Op, having heard about her behaviour you seem to be focusing on the wrong things. I was shocked reading about what she had done to others and yet you don't really seem bothered about that. There are multiple children who are miserable because of her. Any other school will rightly be very wary about taking her. I think the PRU is the best option, not only for her but the safety of others.

I can’t believe she’s been beating people up and you’re concerned that she’s lost a view of ancient woodland.

OP having read both this thread and your one about her bullying violent behaviour I can't see how getting another school to take her would benefit her or anyone else. Nothing changes, so nothing would change. The same behaviour would occur again. She would discount permanent exclusion as something to worry about as her and her Dad would just think she'd move schools again. She's not sorry for the violence or the bullying or the mental abuse she's heaped on other children and she would do it again, more children would suffer. I'd hope my school wouldn't accept a child who behaved like that. This sort of bullying can leave permanent mental scars on children and cause PTSD.

Having actual consequences, like going to a PRU might possibly get her to think about what she's done and see that the behaviour is unacceptable. A managed move wouldn't achieve that. She needs to feel the natural consequences of her behaviour. I'd be much more worried about the path she's on threatening violence then her achieving GCSE and University entrance. There are ways to go to university later, right now she needs to know her behaviour is unacceptable, the behaviour needs to stop before it results in life long consequences, referral to a PRU might be a step towards that.

I'm sorry for what you are going through, but trying to protect her from the consequences of her behaviour helps no one, including her and you. Make it clear to her you are there to support her when she's ready then take a big step back.

I'm sorry- and I know it goes against everything that you want to do- but stop. If she and him reckon that it's all going to be plain sailing getting in somewhere- leave them to it. Let her know she's always got your love and support, and be there when it all falls down. Let her and her dad sort it, since they seem to think they can

She's not coping now...

She needs to be away from the school for the children's safety and will being. You said yesterday that she messaged someone to kill themselves. It sounds like a PRU would be better for her with the small classes

She's used to looking out at green fields, ancient woodland and wildlife and having fantastic facilities . The staff where she is are excellent. They genuinely care and are so approachable and nurturing
I'm sorry, but what's the relevance of this?
She barely shows up and when she does she makes other people's lives a misery.

The rolling hills are not working for her, and she's taking the piss out of the nurturing staff as well.

Violent attack on another girl?! That poor girl. This isn't just abit of truanting she's an actual danger to others. Sounds likely to be sent to a PRU, my DH works in one. She's lucky it's not prison school (dh has worked in one of those too and they are seriously awful).

PRU is very different to mainstream. Shorter days, less kids per class. Obviously all the kids are very naughty! Less academic in terms of usually the kids are put in for the lower equivalent exams rather than GCSE (not sure what they are called sorry) but he does put the brighter ones in for gcse if thinks they'll get it. Although bright ones are rare by the sounds of things tbh (he gets very excited when he does get one)

Hopefully it will be a wake up call for her. As others have said tho I don't think there's much you can do, she needs to learn actions have consequences. You can't go around battering people and expect to just carry on your life

She maybe, but unless her bullying and verbal and physical attacks on other pupils is brought under control, nothing will change.

No one should go to school worried they are going to be bullied.

I do think this is a good idea.

Her dad has allowed it to get to this point and needs to to face the consequences of his actions as much as your dd.

I'd say your job is to let dd know you love her, will support her and always have a home for her if she wants it.

God, not to stick the boot in, op, but she's also on the way to becoming a violent thug.
This needs to be addressed before anything else. Literally before anything else.

A PRU might be really good for her, in terms of a tailored programme and good staff ratios. It could be her best chance of a handful of GCSEs.

Then she really should be excluded, sorry.
Multiple children shouldn't have to put up with that nonsense just to keep her in a school she likes so much she only shows up 60% of the time.

The school won’t want to permanently exclude your DD, will be a last resort, as it costs so much money! I would start getting her name on waiting lists for local schools and try and make an arrangement with her current one!

Can she start a college in September early? Our sixth form offers GCSEs and we sometimes have year 11s start with us early?