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Permanent exclusion-how do I find a new school that will take an excluded child?

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Alwaystoblame · 27/05/2022 14:10

Posting for traffic.
How do I go about finding my Dd a new school if she's been permanently excluded? How likely are good schools to take her on in year 10 with an appalling attendance and behaviour record? She's very bright and doing very well academically when are bothers to go to class and do the homework. Attendance in in the 60s for this year. Even when she dies go in she is late and/or truants classes.
I have 2 previous threads about the issues she's having but I wanted to ask specifically about new schools without getting detailed.

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HipsterCoffeeShop · 03/09/2025 16:28

Well done DD2. And well done you.

PixieTales · 02/09/2025 00:26

Well done DD2.

Sadly and bluntly DD1 is an adult now, she has made her bed and has to lie in it. No one can change her expect herself. I’m not surprised things have ended up this way for her from your previous posts.

OccasionalHope · 01/09/2025 15:59

Well done to DD2!

Createausername1970 · 30/08/2025 06:34

Well done to your DD2.

Keep on doing what you are doing are far as DD1 is concerned. Your door is wide open to her and you are as supportive as you can be, but the ball is in her court. It's good that you are getting along better.

She is still young and I think it's quite possible she will decide that this isn't how she wants her life to be, and she may need your support at that point.

You have been an incredible mum, despite all the challenges others have thrown at you 💐

Alwaystoblame · 30/08/2025 01:23

Just thought I’d update to say despite Carcass’s projection that dd2 would turn out like dd1 and do terribly at school if left in my care, she has achieved mainly grades 7-9 in her GCSEs this year and has enrolled at an outstanding college to do her A levels. Both girls are naturally bright with high IQs according to the clinical psychologist who saw them but such different outcomes despite the same upbringing to age 14 for dd1.
Sadly, things arent much better for dd1 and she is homeless (staying with a friend) because her dad and his gf kicked her out a few weeks ago. She’s not interested in getting help for the weed use and remains very, very lost. I’m doing what I can to help her but she’s an adult and there’s not a lot I can do except love and support her and offer guidance. I regularly talk to her about getting help. She’s still not had her ASD and ADHD assessments and seems to have fallen through the cracks there. I keep hoping and praying she’ll see sense. We get on much better but we don’t see each other because I won’t see her if she’s stoned. I don’t want drug use around my other dc. So far she’s chosen cannabis over spending time with us, including a summer holiday, and has missed out on great family times. She knows she’s welcome to come with us but the weed is her priority.

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OliveWah · 15/03/2025 21:53

Blimey, that's a pretty malicious report for your DD to make @Alwaystoblame, I know I'd be gutted in your shoes. You have done so much to try and rebuild the relationship with your DD, I am honestly at a loss as to anything more to suggest. I wonder if you and your younger DC getting on with your lives without her is what has made your DD decide to do this now? Perhaps she feels her hold on you lessening and wanted to make sure you still "knew she was there"? Either way, her behaviour sounds unbearable and you are totally right to step away to protect yourself and your younger DC as much as you can. Flowers

Alwaystoblame · 15/03/2025 09:10

She’s now 18 and decided to celebrate her birthday but reporting me to social services saying I’d physically and emotionally abused her and she was worried about her siblings. What she’d done was take experiences from my childhood and claim they had happened to her with me as the perpetrator. social services were quite happy having spoken to me but are contacting school and the GP anyway. It was a social worker we’d had before who was dreadful.
All my side of the family made a big effort to choose and get presents to her on her actual birthday and she didn’t bother with them for a few days, didn’t acknowledge receiving them and didn’t say thank you to anyone so her siblings were pretty upset. I’ve recently discovered she has changed her last name to omit my family name which is hurtful.
She’s again been referred for autism and adhd assessments but she has been referred for a year now but the practitioner hasn’t done it right or something. The practitioner is useless at best. We are expected to believe that she has given up the drugs but to go from a severe addiction using several times a day to nothing at all seems unlikely. She’s waiting for driving lessons and that scares me.
She seems less chaotic in general but still so worrying in her behaviour. She’s an adult now though and there’s not a lot I can do about anything apart from keep good boundaries.

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Alwaystoblame · 24/02/2025 19:41

@LittleMousewithcloggson I can't believe it's been so long since I started the thread! In many ways things are still the same and it's a jump from one drama to the next.

It's as though I don't really exist in her life. Her plans never involve me and step mum has very much replaced me in her life. I'm just her biological mum she says. I try to make plans to see her but she's never free when I am. She's let her grandmother down 4 days in a row this last week.

Nobody from this side of the family will see her on her birthday except for her sister. She'll see all her new family and the family that was in between us and her new one. It hurts but there's little I can do. I've offered to meet her regularly in the nearest neutral place on our own to try and rebuild our relationship and she's all for it but then says she's busy.

Everything we do as a family I feel that empty space where she should be. It never feels right to do anything without her.

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greatblueheron · 23/02/2025 11:30

If she's getting high and driving, call the police.

LittleMousewithcloggson · 23/02/2025 11:19

I started this thread - noting the start date - and hoped to find a happy ending. Whilst I know your DD has caused her own problems I still feel very sorry for you op. It’s never want we want for our children

Alwaystoblame · 23/02/2025 11:08

Her dad has as I expected changed his mind and she's now allowed to remain with him and his gf. She is saying she's stopped smoking cannabis and is starting driving lessons. Younger Dd says she's not stopped at all but has cut down. She definitely shouldn't be behind the wheel of a vehicle.
We recently went on holiday and she was not allowed to come with us. She's not made any changes to her behaviour and very quickly resorts to being nasty when she is challenged. This happened by text on holiday although I wasn't challenging her, she was challenging me, and I was so glad that she hadn't come with us. It's sad that she missed out but she only has herself to blame. Once she's 18 I feel like totally giving up but feel sadness and guilt that I feel like that.

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Evidemment · 30/01/2025 02:02

Hi OP I've been following your thread for as long as I can remember. I also think you've done your best and now you need to just focus on your younger kids. Honestly it's clear you care deeply and have done absolutely everything you can to be a support. Time to move on - leave the door open for when she eventually needs her mum but you can't let her keep derailing all your lives, especially when things change drastically at the big 18 milestone.

You can't expect dad to be looking for accommodation for her if he's actively kicking her out I'm afraid, that's a pipedream. I'd try not to expect anything of him to avoid disappointment when he doesn't behave the way you would want him to/a normal parent would.

Createausername1970 · 24/01/2025 07:46

The best thing you can do is just be there and be you.

It's so hard when you can see the real person behind the mask, and you want to sweep them up in your arms and look after them.

Right now, this isn't what she wants.

My thoughts, having been somewhere similar, although not to this extent or for this duration, is to get on with your life. If you have "moved on" mentally from this phase of your lives, it will be beneficial in the long run. At some point she will probably see the light and realise she has been ridiculous. If she reaches out to you, and your are in a much better place emotionally, then that will benefit her. If she doesn't, then you will still be in a better place for your own sanity.

Keep the door firmly open for her, but look to your own future and your own needs.

OhmygodDont · 23/01/2025 19:50

Honestly as harsh as it is. You are just going to have to let her go and do her thing.

She is in a place where your the bad guy trying to control and curtail her fun. No matter what you say it won’t change her.

You have to let her go, let her hit her rock bottom and then when she actually realises be there to help her rebuild.

Why would her dad help her find accommodation if his kicking her out ? She should just present to the council with a letter of homelessness. Him kicking her out and trying to make her stand on her own is meant to be a kick up the arse.

Alwaystoblame · 23/01/2025 19:44

Goodness, I've just looked back and noted how long ago I started this thread. It will be 3 years in May. Things have just got worse for Dd.
Instead of helping her find accommodation and sort her future out her dad is going on holiday with his gf 🤬

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Alwaystoblame · 23/01/2025 17:03

Thank you. I'm dreading her being 18 because I feel she will be so very vulnerable and I won't be able to do much to help her. Her dad doesn't seem to care. He's blocked me on every platform and I can't speak to him about her. Social services basically shrugged and said not our problem.

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Crazycrazylady · 23/01/2025 15:16

Im sorry op that things haven't improved for her and you. Maybe you'll be more at peace when she is 18 and you can't advocate for her. It's awful now for you when you can and she won't accept help and you have to watch helplessly. You've done all you could.

Alwaystoblame · 21/01/2025 10:47

Things are not great. She's now addicted to weed and was smoking it pure several times a day. Her dad threw her out but she's back there now although she has to move out soon. Her college attendance is under 60% and she's hanging out with others who are using drugs. She's 18 very soon and instead of letting me help her she's amped up her nastiness and says how abusive I am. Her youngest sibling doesn't want anything to do with her and I'm respecting that.
Her dad never signed the referral forms despite many reminders from professionals so they gave only just been sent off.
I'm feeling really down this week about it because time seems to be running out for me to help her. Once she's 18 I don't have any right to contact professionals to get her help. She's extremely angry and says I don't have PR for her when I do. She has a drug addiction worker but I'm not convinced she actually wants to stop smoking weed.
Things just go from bad to worse.
I just need to vent today. I'm so tired of this. 12 years of this shit now in one form or another.

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Fountofwisdom · 17/09/2024 23:45

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Scoobydoobydoo · 17/09/2024 22:30

OP
Big hugs...I know it's not all good but there are some glimmers.
The important thing is how you have held on with how much you care and worry for her.
That's all you can do now. Watch her do things both good and bad in her own time and hope eventually there are more ups than downs.
Look after yourself.
Xx

Lindy2 · 17/09/2024 08:31

It's good that she might have found a college course she likes and a job. Perhaps those are the focus she needs to improve her life.

I think all you can do is watch from a distance and let things progress in whatever way they will.

Hopefully as she matures she'll decide to turn things around.

If she is ASD/ADHD, which is likely, then she may well have a PDA profile. My teenage daughter is ASD/ADHD/PDA.

Anything she will be told or expected to do will be met with refusal and push back. She needs to always feel in control. Hopefully her choosing to try college again and get a job shows the first signs of her taking more sensible choices.

Alwaystoblame · 17/09/2024 07:59

Dd is now at college doing a different course and is enjoying it. She seems to have turned a corner. She attended court twice over the shoplifting and despite being told she'd have a police caution it was downgraded to another community resolution. I worry that this is pointless seeing as it failed to have an effect last time. She has a part time job although I worry about her stealing from the people she's working for. She can't be trusted sadly.
Her dad continues to be a complete idiot and the social worker never did anything at all except call meetings, get everyone mixed up, fail to invite me and never give me the minutes. I don't know how they keep their jobs with such incompetence.
It's early days with college. Her dad and his handmaidens are all over how fantastic it is that she's engaging but it's only been two weeks and it's too early to tell.
She has finally been referred for ASD and ADHD assessments after me saying for years that she needed this and her dad saying I was making it up and accusing me of munchausens by proxy while also saying it was due to the way I brought her up.
So that's where things are for now.

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Alwaystoblame · 04/07/2024 08:05

Dd is very much responsible for her actions. The sw is useless because she believes everything exH says and doesn't use her brain to question anything. There is no plan in place for how anything will be achieved. We need xyz but no mention of how to achieve that or what she is going to do. All she does is say she'll have a chat with dad then she swallows all his lies and nothing improves.

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MichelleScarn · 04/07/2024 07:28

What are you expecting the sw to do to stop the criminal behaviour and non engagement at college? Have looked at last few posts and there's no acceptance that this is any of your daughters responsibility.
Kicked out of school, shoplifting = The sw is shite. Absolutely useless.
she's not engaging with services = sw doing nothing.
Also looks like she'll soon be aged out of children's services?

Alwaystoblame · 04/07/2024 07:18

Yes, she's still living with her dad and they are now living with his latest gf. ExH says he took on a damaged daughter and how parenting teens isn't easy. He's not looked at why she's damaged beyond it being my fault. He gf walked out and took the kids in the middle of the night two days ago but they are back together. She's not coping with exH or dd.
Dd wasn't bothered about being in court at all. A little nervous but mainly chatted away happily about her antics.
My other two dc are ok thank you despite the regular problems during contact for dd2. Ds is better than he was and rarely sees Dd and is protected from her.
Mental health services are involved with Dd but whether or not she will engage beyond the first assessment is the big question. She's not done in the past. She's still stealing and hasn't learnt anything at all from her arrests or court appearance. Her relationship with me is better although she still sees me as the reason for her issues.

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