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High earners - how do you spend your salary?

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Citygirly · 21/05/2022 10:03

DH and I earn just under £140k combined.

We do maximum pension payments (his is 9% as NHS) and we also give about 10% a month to charity.

Other than that, we plan to start overpaying the mortgage. We invest £1k a month (so £500 each) and save £1k for holidays. We of course do general/specific savings but then have a good chunk left over for disposable income.

AIBU to ask other high earning households how they tend to allocate their money? Just want to see if we could be using it better or this is about right for comparables.

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CockSpadget · 22/05/2022 11:26

@Citygirly genuine question. Why did you post on AIBU instead of a financial or money related forum?

lancsgirl85 · 22/05/2022 11:25

@C8H10N4O2

There's a difference between punching up and punching down.

Thank you, you articulated nicely in one sentence what I was trying to say about why it's not comparable!

Citygirly · 22/05/2022 11:24

@C8H10N4O2 how do you propose that I raise this topic with my peers at work who are just my colleagues and definitely not friends? People are happy to talk about holidays and staycations and recommendations for those but they definitely do not discuss the cost.

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Katypp · 22/05/2022 11:23

@Topgub i don't work in the medical profession so I am prepared to be told I am wrong here, but to get to the top of band 5, you don't need any additional qualifications do you? Just to have been in the job long enough?
There's no comparison with law (which I also don't work in) as you will have to specialise and take additional qualifications to reach £85k in most practises. The big London law firms wages skew averages for lawyers. Most lawyers work in provincial law firms and won't earn anywhere near £85k.

Merryclaire · 22/05/2022 11:23

Katypp · 22/05/2022 11:08

@Merryclaire sorry I forgot that teachers and nurses have a monopoly on hard work - silly me.
I agree this post would be better in money though, although I expect there would still be a pile-on there

You sound very resentful towards key workers. No one is saying they have the monopoly on hard work - lots of people work hard. DH are both incredibly hard working and put in many extra hours with no additional pay - but we are the first to admit our jobs are less important to society than the likes of nurses and teachers. The point is, they should be well-paid professions.

workintums · 22/05/2022 11:23

I have quite a large household income, it’s made up of numerous income streams and we invest about 80% of it in generating further income.

such as what? btls?

C8H10N4O2 · 22/05/2022 11:23

Katypp · 22/05/2022 10:40

@lancsgirl85 i didn't mean you specifically, no. But what's the relevance of posting about people with no money on a thread about high earners? If a high earner posted on a thread about someone struggling saying they had no advice because they had plenty of money they would be torn apart.

There is a difference between punching up and punching down.

If this was intended as a good faith post I'd expect to see it in "Money", not AIBU where the outcome was utterly predictable.

I'm also bemused that the OP apparently has no peers to observe or discuss this with since she would have a pretty good idea that peers are on similar income whilst on here, we can all be gazillionaires if we choose.

Citygirly · 22/05/2022 11:22

Nothappyatwork · 22/05/2022 11:14

I was think the point of these threads and what’s so good about them is that they do educate people financially.
I was so lucky I went into a sales role when I was straight out of university, worked with other people who were middle to upper class and basically I just did what they were doing so instead of buying shit at Karen Millen which is what some of my colleagues did who didn’t observe management.
I went and bought a house and literally three years later that house doubled in price .
Unfortunately I then sold it but the proceeds of it allowed me to spend four years at home with my children that I would never of had without it.

Dont they say that you are the average of the five people you spend most time with ?
if you spend all your time on Mumsnet it could go either way for you.

This actually made me laugh at loud as I actually bought my first KM dress just this week. For me, I have sometimes felt out of place at work as not been able to afford quality clothes such as this beforehand and have been very aware of that. I want to make sure I look and feel the part for client meetings etc.

However, we have bought a house and do invest so I think it's a balance. It's difficult to know if I'm spending frivolously as me and DH can't always agree as we have different views on how to spend disposable income.

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workintums · 22/05/2022 11:20

@burnoutbabe I guess so much is dependent on age & location. Most people buying in the last few yrs will still be paying a lot of a tiny flat.

Nothappyatwork · 22/05/2022 11:19

workintums · 22/05/2022 11:17

I was think the point of these threads and what’s so good about them is that they do educate people financially.

Do they? I mean the vast majority of people I know who earn well came from solid backgrounds & we were all helped onto the ladder (including me) by family. I know loads of people who moved during the pandemic all given sums like 200k up the ladder.

Well it would’ve educated me had I not had those around me at work that I felt comfortable to ask questions of. I think the only reason for that was that we were in a sales environment. Now I work in professional services I can absolutely assure you nobody in KPMG sits down over a sandwich in the canteen and starts explaining to the younger members of the team how to maximise their investments and their pension they probably should but it’s just far too conservative/circumspect. I can only imagine Law is 10 times worse.

Zeus44 · 22/05/2022 11:19

Usual derailment of threads by people who can’t contribute. Always around money which is no surprise.

I have quite a large household income, it’s made up of numerous income streams and we invest about 80% of it in generating further income.

This is to fund private schooling, travel and nice things.

lancsgirl85 · 22/05/2022 11:18

but there's no point to either post on either thread is there? The posts from those struggling on threads like this are clearly plopped in to make the poster and others in the same position feel shit. So I would be open to the possibility that they were being a dick, actually.

Wow. If that's your view of the poster who can't afford bread, that's she's a dick and thrives on others feeling sorry for her, then we are vastly different people and are never going to agree so let's leave that there.

Jmaho · 22/05/2022 11:18

SofiaSoFar · 22/05/2022 10:27

I find that like water, life adapts to fill the amount of money you earn...

I think this is the problem for some people. They spend whatever they have, so once tougher times come they're in trouble.

I know quite a few people who live like that. I can't imagine doing it myself.

We are comfortable on a joint income of much less than £100k because we didn't do this
We both drive second hand cars each bought for around £5k ish. Mine needs replacing next year and we have the cash to do so. Will probably spend a bit more this time perhaps £10k. We do go abroad for 2 weeks every summer which we save for monthly, same as Xmas and birthdays as we have 4 children so it's expensive. Aside from that and paying for extra curriculum activities, clothes days out etc the odd takeaway, our outgoings have been the same for a few years now
My husband changed jobs fairly recently and got a pay rise of around 20%. It just means we save more. Likewise I work 18.5 hours currently but will up it to 28 hours in the next few years. Again more will go into savings. I'd rather have a good amount in the bank to help children out with uni and houses in the future than move to a bigger house or buy a better car
I work in mortgages and am often shocked at how so many high earners have lots of debt and are in their overdrafts every month due to lifestyle spending
Many of them are earning huge amounts yet have no savings
I have friends in a similar position who spend like crazy and are relying on inheritance to repay the mortgage and provide a deposit for their children in the future

workintums · 22/05/2022 11:18

home! 😆

workintums · 22/05/2022 11:17

or a 2nd joke

workintums · 22/05/2022 11:17

I was think the point of these threads and what’s so good about them is that they do educate people financially.

Do they? I mean the vast majority of people I know who earn well came from solid backgrounds & we were all helped onto the ladder (including me) by family. I know loads of people who moved during the pandemic all given sums like 200k up the ladder.

burnoutbabe · 22/05/2022 11:16

workintums · 22/05/2022 11:08

It's only on MNs that I read about higher earners who are you but are mortgage free or have a tiny one. The higher earners I know are mortgaged to the hilt &/or paying shit loads of childcare.

as its anonymous. I didn't generally shout out to non-close that my mortgage was tiny etc (which was because i bought one flat and never moved)

Trouble with Mumsnet is whilst there are "boards" - most people, like me, probably just look at the active forums. And post on whatever thread appeals to us (avoiding obvious ones like black mumsnetters).

Other boards have specific forums so DEBT FREE WANABE is not also showing posts against "i have £1m to invest, what shall i do??"

workintums · 22/05/2022 11:15

What is the obsession with savings?

We save in a few pots. short term for holidays, renovations & then long term for retirement & rainy day.

We don't have 300k in savings though, I don't see the point of that.

Nothappyatwork · 22/05/2022 11:14

I was think the point of these threads and what’s so good about them is that they do educate people financially.
I was so lucky I went into a sales role when I was straight out of university, worked with other people who were middle to upper class and basically I just did what they were doing so instead of buying shit at Karen Millen which is what some of my colleagues did who didn’t observe management.
I went and bought a house and literally three years later that house doubled in price .
Unfortunately I then sold it but the proceeds of it allowed me to spend four years at home with my children that I would never of had without it.

Dont they say that you are the average of the five people you spend most time with ?
if you spend all your time on Mumsnet it could go either way for you.

Topgub · 22/05/2022 11:12

@Katypp

My logic for what statement?

Citygirly · 22/05/2022 11:11

AtillatheHun · 22/05/2022 11:08

I think it’s bloody weird that a silver circle solicitor doing commercial work (because that salary doesn’t come from resi conveyancing) has neither peers to discuss this with or pick up guidance from, nor a mountain of student debt from their humble backgrounds x 2 in order to secure those jobs. Sure firms pay fees and a contribution but that’s after the degree has been paid for and med school for what, 5 years? Yet no reference to student loans.
nor dry cleaning and suits / dreadful shoes.

I don't work at a silver circle firm.

Are you offering advice re student loans? We both will have paid them off by the time we are 40 with our regular contributions that are taken out.

The dry cleaning doesn't break the bank.

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Katypp · 22/05/2022 11:11

@Topgub And your logic for this statement is?

Topgub · 22/05/2022 11:09

@Katypp

Who said nursing was worthy of sympathy?

I said it was under paid.

You shouldn't have to progress to the very very top to be a higher earner as a nurse.

A band 5 nurse should be a higher earner. A carer in a nursing home should be a higher earner.

If an 'average' lawyer can earn 85 k then so should an 'average' nurse.

Katypp · 22/05/2022 11:08

@Merryclaire sorry I forgot that teachers and nurses have a monopoly on hard work - silly me.
I agree this post would be better in money though, although I expect there would still be a pile-on there

workintums · 22/05/2022 11:08

It's only on MNs that I read about higher earners who are you but are mortgage free or have a tiny one. The higher earners I know are mortgaged to the hilt &/or paying shit loads of childcare.