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High earners - how do you spend your salary?

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Citygirly · 21/05/2022 10:03

DH and I earn just under £140k combined.

We do maximum pension payments (his is 9% as NHS) and we also give about 10% a month to charity.

Other than that, we plan to start overpaying the mortgage. We invest £1k a month (so £500 each) and save £1k for holidays. We of course do general/specific savings but then have a good chunk left over for disposable income.

AIBU to ask other high earning households how they tend to allocate their money? Just want to see if we could be using it better or this is about right for comparables.

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TheHumanExperience · 23/05/2022 20:53

If I was earning that much money, there is no way it would be just sitting in the bank earning a pittance. I'd be looking for assets to invest in, to give me a better return.

Lovemyheathershimmer · 23/05/2022 20:39

lancsgirl85
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gotthis · 23/05/2022 20:35

@Topgub Indeed. Naomi Klein wrote a very good book on this, called 'Capitalism vs the Climate.' In general the poorest people have the lowest carbon footprint, also. I suppose they are getting shafted all ways.

Sarahlou252 · 23/05/2022 20:34

Two children at Uni. Don't get student finance as it's means tested. Swallows up all our money supporting them to pay for accommodation, they both work to support their living costs.

Hopefully in the future we will feel quite comfortable but certainly not feeling it just yet!

Topgub · 23/05/2022 20:28

Capitalism is literally destroying the planet

Yay for capitalism the system that keeps 99 % poor and fucks the planet

Topgub · 23/05/2022 20:22

@SlightlyGeordieJohn

Nah double what they take from others in earnings seems about right

Yes, exactly @gotthis

Topgub · 23/05/2022 20:18

@SlightlyGeordieJohn

Fortunately you’re doing well enough to not have to live near them or work alongside them.

And yet you've the cheek to call others unpleasant? 🤣🤣

You have seemingly no ability to refute any thing I've said so are resorting to getting personal.

The people you went to school with may have had any number of reasons for being unable to do better at school.

You clearly had advantages they didn't. Choice is an illusion that others buy into to feed their superiority complexes

Topgub · 23/05/2022 20:14

@Citygirly

Politics and wealth inequality and attitudes to both are fascinating?

I'm very much not upset. Why would I be?

Why did you start a thread that no sensible person would need to start?

Nothappyatwork · 23/05/2022 20:13

SlightlyGeordieJohn · 23/05/2022 19:51

They seem to get pleasure from being unpleasant at people who’ve gone out and made something of their lives. There are always people like that around. Fortunately you’re doing well enough to not have to live near them or work alongside them.

🤣🤣🤣🤣 you’d be surprised how many walk amongst you mwahahaha

lancsgirl85 · 23/05/2022 20:12

You could have done what I did, and be earning what I do, but you chose not to.

It's not quite that simple is it.

I said previously on this thread that I went to university 3 times and did a PhD recently to qualify in my field. Most of that study took place as a single parent, but with a lot of support around me from family. I now earn 50k in my 30s. Ok, it's not 80k or 120k.... but it's above average, right? It's a a "good" salary. Do I believe anyone could have done what I did and followed my path into my particular career? I actually don't, no.

I came from a background of poverty and a one parent family, but I had a parent who pushed me to do well. Who hammered home the value of education from a young age. Who encouraged and praised my school based achievements. Who loved me and didn't abuse or neglect me. I am able bodied; I have my health. I am relatively intelligent. When I needed childcare for my DD so I could meet university deadlines, it was there. I had a lot on my side from the start.

Others aren't so fortunate. That's why I don't believe "anyone" could have followed my education and career pathway. Because I recognise that my childhood and what it offered provided the necessary foundations for me to do it. If I'd been abused, not encouraged to do well, if I'd had a lower IQ, if I'd had no childcare for my DD while I studied... do I think I could have achieved all that I have? No, I don't.

I don't look down my nose at people who have a lower educational attainment or who earn less than I do. I have the humility to realise that, whilst I worked fucking hard to get where I am in life, many people who earn less have worked just as hard as I have, but possibly without the resources and opportunities I had at each stage of my life.

So, my relatively good salary doesn't make me a better or harder working person than a lower earner. It makes me in many ways luckier.

Topgub · 23/05/2022 20:11

@Robinni

Whats humble?

Anyone who can afford pe isn't poor or struggling and is absolutely giving their kids an advantage that keeps the wealth with the wealthy

gotthis · 23/05/2022 20:07

CaliforniaDrumming · 23/05/2022 19:59

I don't think it is fair and I think a certain amount of luck is involved in becoming wealthy. But having lived under a former communist/socialist government in a developing country where we queued up for hours for the most basic foodstuffs or services, I am not sure there are many better, fairer alternatives.

You won't catch me complaining about taxes though or saying that people choose to be poor.

Regarding charity donations, I do donate to charity, though not 10% of my salary. Mostly in my country of origin.

I hear what you are saying about socialism, but it's such an old idea it's a wonder we have not come up with any new perspectives. I do not think capitalism has done better, not when the right to eat is now based on whether you were successful at playing its system.

CaliforniaDrumming · 23/05/2022 19:59

gotthis · 23/05/2022 19:50

That's an interesting point about capitalism, I suppose. There have to be the poor, otherwise there would be no rich. The system is built upon it. Of course, those who are doing well believe it's the result of their virtue and the system is fair. It would be against their interests to think otherwise. Malthusian ideas, such as poverty being a result of moral and personal deficiencies, also are popular. It's a sad system that sets people against each other, that is what keeps it going.

I don't think it is fair and I think a certain amount of luck is involved in becoming wealthy. But having lived under a former communist/socialist government in a developing country where we queued up for hours for the most basic foodstuffs or services, I am not sure there are many better, fairer alternatives.

You won't catch me complaining about taxes though or saying that people choose to be poor.

Regarding charity donations, I do donate to charity, though not 10% of my salary. Mostly in my country of origin.

SlightlyGeordieJohn · 23/05/2022 19:51

Citygirly · 23/05/2022 19:48

I don't understand why you are spending so much time on a thread that clearly isn't meant for you. It's clearly upsetting you.

They seem to get pleasure from being unpleasant at people who’ve gone out and made something of their lives. There are always people like that around. Fortunately you’re doing well enough to not have to live near them or work alongside them.

gotthis · 23/05/2022 19:50

Topgub · 23/05/2022 19:29

@Citygirly

What venom?

I haven't shown any venom.

The fact remains that wealthy people are only wealthy because others are poor.

If you're ok with being vastly over paid while others are vastly under paid and thinking that tax is stolen from you while people freeze and starve then thats between you and your conscience I suppose.

That's an interesting point about capitalism, I suppose. There have to be the poor, otherwise there would be no rich. The system is built upon it. Of course, those who are doing well believe it's the result of their virtue and the system is fair. It would be against their interests to think otherwise. Malthusian ideas, such as poverty being a result of moral and personal deficiencies, also are popular. It's a sad system that sets people against each other, that is what keeps it going.

SlightlyGeordieJohn · 23/05/2022 19:50

Topgub · 23/05/2022 19:07

@dillydally24

High earners in the UK pay a disproportionate share of tax (30% of income tax is paid by the top 1% of earners).

How is it 'disproportionate' ? Given the amount that 1 % earn? Seems quite low to me.

It is disproportionate as the top 1% of earners earn 14% of all wages and pay 30% of all income tax.

That is the actual definition of disproportionate. If it was proportionate they would pay 14% of all income tax.

Citygirly · 23/05/2022 19:48

Topgub · 23/05/2022 19:39

@Madbamboo

Cashiers work hard too.

The responsibilities are different.

Is the ceo really working a million times harder?

Course not. There are roles that are more important in terms of responsibility and harder work that dong earn much more than the cashier.

Things could be fairer with drifting into communism

I don't understand why you are spending so much time on a thread that clearly isn't meant for you. It's clearly upsetting you.

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SlightlyGeordieJohn · 23/05/2022 19:47

Topgub · 23/05/2022 19:41

@SlightlyGeordieJohn

I'm not poor.

I doubt very much you've gotten where you are entirely on your own or that everyone could do the same

No one choses to be poor. Much as telling yourself that makes you feel better

Just about everyone could do the same, but few choose to, and yes, of course a great many people do choose to be poor.

People will choose an easier job over a higher paying one, people choose to gamble, people choose to spend money on credit, and so on.

I’m from a pit village, and the kids from school who always bunked off for a smoke, or didn’t come in at all, the ones who got out at sixteen for a job in a factory, they are pretty much all struggling now relative to the ones who stuck in at school, and then worked to get themselves into a good career afterwards.

User48751490 · 23/05/2022 19:42

lancsgirl85 · 23/05/2022 19:11

Yes we can see how well the "heavily redistributive tax and benefits system" is currently working when so many are currently struggling to feed their families, many more being pushed into poverty as we speak....

Exactly. Hence my original comment about someone on this thread who couldn't even afford a loaf of bread. Why are people in such an unbelievably shit situation if our benefits system is so amazing? 🤔

Hear, hear🙌

Nothappyatwork · 23/05/2022 19:42

CHiSOCG · 23/05/2022 19:29

Literally I don’t get this attitude towards rich. I think my Grandfather arrived here with less than £10 in his pocket in the 50s. My parents both barely illiterate. They built up a business. Worked in factories and foundries! Instilled a strong work ethic and valued education above everything else!

we all worked hard, there has been addiction, ill health - hours and hours of work. Night and day.

Technically we are well off now about a £120k net household income. But we work so hard for it and know how hard our parents worked too!

Youre not rich. Basically. Youre the squeezed middle. Sorry

Topgub · 23/05/2022 19:41

@SlightlyGeordieJohn

I'm not poor.

I doubt very much you've gotten where you are entirely on your own or that everyone could do the same

No one choses to be poor. Much as telling yourself that makes you feel better

Topgub · 23/05/2022 19:39

@Madbamboo

Cashiers work hard too.

The responsibilities are different.

Is the ceo really working a million times harder?

Course not. There are roles that are more important in terms of responsibility and harder work that dong earn much more than the cashier.

Things could be fairer with drifting into communism

SlightlyGeordieJohn · 23/05/2022 19:39

Topgub · 23/05/2022 19:29

@Citygirly

What venom?

I haven't shown any venom.

The fact remains that wealthy people are only wealthy because others are poor.

If you're ok with being vastly over paid while others are vastly under paid and thinking that tax is stolen from you while people freeze and starve then thats between you and your conscience I suppose.

You could have done what I did, and be earning what I do, but you chose not to.

If you are poor it’s not because others are rich, it’s pretty much a certainty that it’s down to your own choices.

SlightlyGeordieJohn · 23/05/2022 19:37

Topgub · 23/05/2022 19:23

Rich people are very rarely rich from their own efforts so I'm not sure where the smug we subsidise all you plebs is coming from.

The reality is its us who subsidise you

You wouldn't be able to make money without the hard work of others

Most (as shown by the PE discussions) start off wealthy and use their parents money.

You seem well-balanced, what with having a chip on both shoulders.

Robinni · 23/05/2022 19:36

Topgub · 23/05/2022 19:23

Rich people are very rarely rich from their own efforts so I'm not sure where the smug we subsidise all you plebs is coming from.

The reality is its us who subsidise you

You wouldn't be able to make money without the hard work of others

Most (as shown by the PE discussions) start off wealthy and use their parents money.

@Topgub OP comes from humble beginnings. My grandparents were brought up in council houses.

You seem to think that everyone going to private school comes from a long line of toffs…. There aren’t enough families of toffs to populate the schools. Many of the children are from regular families who worked hard and want to spend their money on helping kids. I know roofers and plumbers who send 1-2 of their children there for goodness sake. They have to work like maniacs but they feel it’s worth it.