To say that Bayliss & Harding is quite nice

Which means that it's simply not true when people say that 'B&H is cheap and nasty and brings me out in a rash but lovely refined MB doesn't' because they're basically the same.

At best, MB might have a slightly nicer smell that lasts a bit longer, but otherwise, it's very 'emperor's new clothes' and people think it's better quality because it's more expensive and for no other reason.

I like it and buy the hand-wash for guests (we use bars of soap when it's just us). However I do know it's fairly cheap and for that reason wouldn't buy it as a gift. However for every day use I find it good and perfectly acceptable.

It's perfectly fine, I have no beef with B&H trying to make their product look fancy. Not everyone has the privileged position of being able to spaff £20 on some hand soap so if being able to buy a £1.50 bottle that looks 'nice' makes them happy then I see no problem with that.

If someone bought it me as a gift I'd be hard pushed to be offended or disappointed because, well it's a gift and I'd be grateful that they got me something.

I hate it because it does dry my hands and so does Molton Brown.

Clearly I am too posh for this world.

Sorry I quoted you @ICannotRememberAThing because I meant to say that I've posted that link before on a similar thread and I think you only have to look at the guy's tracksuit in the photo of him in the bathroom for a reminder that more expensive things aren't necessarily nicer/better quality.

It's pure snobbery about B&H and you see it time and time again in any truely blind test, where you don't know which is which that people often can't tell, prefer the cheaper brand, or at the very least don't think the expensive version, often at 10/20 times the price, is significantly better than the very cheap equivalent.

If it had Molton Brown on it everyone would love it.

Some of them are, though other nice hand wash soaps are available for less.

Out of curiosity I looked up the ingredients in the B&H and MB handwashes.

Depending on the fragrance, the MB may contain a bit of the relevant essential oil (the cheaper ones though, like citrus ones) and different colourings to the B&H. So, the essential oils will make a difference in the depth of the fragrance.

But that's about it. All the other ingredients are chemically identical. At the end of the day, they are perfumed foaming soaps.

Yes, this is what I find too. The body lotion is very watery too.

I'm no snob, I'm currently using an Imperial Leather shower gel I got for a quid from Home Bargains .

I like the Goodnes B&H range for an everyday soap to have by the kitchen sink, wouldn't dream of giving it as a gift though

i like it, the only hand wash that doesn’t give me dermatitis.

The gift sets I wouldn’t buy for anyone tbh as they seem overpriced.

I liked it and been given it as a girl from an elderly aunt. I have been appreciative of the gift. The goodness range is nice

but the I’m not a mug who would pay £20 for shower gel and claim it’s worth the price

I let it be known in my family that I actually quite like it.

I’ve never had to buy anymore at all. I have mildly snobby family members who throw it my way in horror whenever they get a gift set of it. I can easily get a years supply around Christmas 😁👍

The Aldi products are actually good. Maybe B&H should knock off the Aldi ones.

I would be more than happy to use it (I couldn't give a shit about brands), but the shower gel doesn't actually lather. It blobs onto your hand/shower thingy, then slides off, whole, onto the shower floor as soon as water hits it.

They should coat tents with it. It's fucking waterproof.

So I don't buy it.

Can't say I really ever notice the difference when I'm washing my hands after a shite.

I would die laughing if it turned out its the same stuff in both bottles 😂

Bayliss and Harding make perfectly acceptable soaps and stuff like that. There is a weird snobbery with some people thinking Molton Brown is actually better because of marketing/packaging/price. (I’ve only actually seen it on MN, which is strangely snobby about somewhat inconsequential things.) It reflects so much on the psychology of marketing.

Like what you like, don’t let others’ brand obsessions mess with your own choices.

People love expensive brands don't they? This made me laugh... (sorry about the DM link - it's the only place I could find the video)
www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4025224/How-avid-Molton-Brown-fan-failed-tell-difference-favourite-18-soap-Aldi-s-80-version-fact-preferred-cheaper-one.html

I like it as a gift...i always give it too. Can't see how ot's pretending to be fancy.

Molton Brown is ok but not worth the price tag imo.

Bayliss and Harding make average-quality (though perfectly fine) hand wash, then package it in a way which appears to copy rather expensive Molton Brown products.

Correct. They sell it in bog standard supermarkets etc and if someone bought it for me as a present I’d think they hadn’t made much effort.

It's fine, I use it myself. But as PP have said, I'd be pretty disappointed with it as a present.