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AIBU - I read messages on my husbands phone

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SunnySideUp30Plus · 04/04/2022 14:17

I have never done this before but I am in a world of confusion and I hope that someone can (perhaps) talk some sense into me. I am a mum of two young children (under 5) and I am married to a man that helps a lot when he is around but he works away now most of the time. I never thought I would be raising two young children alone and I feel sad for that but also very grateful post-pandemic that he has work, as we had a tough time for a while with us both being out of work. Anway, recently he came back from a trip that was a few months long, I had this aching feeling while he was away that something wasn't right, he felt a little distanced on the phone and I know there were some heavy nights out with colleagues (he never goes out at home, out of his choice and I think definitely letting off some steam) when he came home, I did the unthinkable to put my mind at rest...I went through his whatsapps. I saw a couple of questionable conversations with female colleagues, two conversations in fact. One with a woman which was a few days of banter and then a few drunk texts where It looked like she was testing the waters asking his intentions, and asking him to be more direct with her and he also asked what her intentions were with him. There were a few suggestive posts as to this is where I am staying but other than that not too much to write home about. I asked him about this and he pleaded with me nothing happened, though went into a defensive mode and told me he was messaging her because I never answered my phone. (we spoke everyday via calls in the evenings, I love to message him but he barely replies as he is always busy or tired) He was being very harsh with me and I just begged him to give me some reassurance that everything was okay. He told me " I spent last night between your legs for an hour, what more reassurance do you need" I found this to be so hurtful and insensitive. He told me this woman and He talked the next day in person and he told her nothing would happen and that he was married. and apparently she didn't realise. Then I also found a 2nd conversation with another woman, there was a lot more 'banter' here and then eventually when the woman told him she was leaving the place of work and returning home he confessed he was sad because he wanted to spend more time with her. This woman was particularly attractive and this whole thing has sent me into a tailspin. Am I overreacting over work colleagues that are spending time together abroad and enjoying a shared experience etc is this type of chat bound to happen and am I being too sensitive? I think what gets me the most is that my husband responds in quite a cruel and fiery way, I would love him to take me in his arms and tell me that there is nobody else but me or that he loves me but instead, he says I am jealous, have issues and that isn't his fault. They are just colleagues, he is flirting maybe but nothing would ever come of it.

I also need to add, and this pains me because I have never mentioned this to anyone, I once found condoms in his work bag and he told me they were for emergencies, that he may f787k up his life but he doesn't want to do that for someone else.

He definitely does not have a way with words and can be quite tough sometimes, but he is the father of my kids, people love him, I love him but I just don't know what to think now. How am I going to feel content with him working away now knowing what I have read. I am so confused, am I being unreasonable to be so down and upset with him. I feel sick, anxious and can't concentrate on anything since he has returned, please tell me your honest opinions.

I work full time too and take care of the children and I am just feeling so underappreciated that he feels it is okay to have a fun and care free time while he is away and I am struggling to make it through every day alone with my hands full.

OP posts:
Dancer47 · 04/04/2022 19:04

Very sorry, OP.
He is not only cheating, but he is not a good person. He turned it back on you. he is very cruel, and now that you openly said you wanted reassurance, he will feel he has the upper hand. He will only get more callous, colder and nastier.

Honestly, from what you said, he has never been a good man. He may never have been faithful to you from the beginning. Perhaps your relationship was built on sex at the start, before there was any real roots of trust and friendship developed - it sounds like it. I hope you can free yourself from the cruel bastard asap. Rip the plaster off and move on with your babies - you can do it. Flowers

ladymalfoy · 04/04/2022 19:01

Oh Anastasia. Your friends told you he was a wrong 'un.
Post reported.

LoveSpringDaffs · 04/04/2022 18:56

I hope he made the most of the 'hour between your legs' 🤢🤮because if you've any sense it'll be the very last time he gets that privilege.

When is he away again?

That would determine how I proceeded.

But I'd be finding a SHL (shit hot lawyer) who agrees he's scum.

Hopefully he's away again soon, at which point I'd be lining up all the paperwork, getting the locks changed, his shit dumped at his parents/friends and telling him he can have as many condom related emergencies as he likes now, because you're done with his shit.

You've got this!! You CAN do it

MrsLighthouse · 04/04/2022 18:51

Total gaslighting …and him being “between your legs” is so fantastic that all thoughts of his shitty behaviour go out of your head ?
Sorry but he’s cheating . Emotional affair if nothing else.
And he obviously thinks the best line of defence is attack …don’t let him get away with it . It’s gonna be hard but better to be a single mum ( which you basically are already ) than let the person who’s meant to love you treat you this way 😢

Lbushsgkm · 04/04/2022 18:46

Screenshot or photograph all the messages, get your affairs in order and LTB.

username9871028 · 04/04/2022 18:44

I once found condoms in his work bag and he told me they were for emergencies, that he may f787k up his life but he doesn't want to do that for someone else.

Excuse me?!

DoWhatYouLike · 04/04/2022 18:42

I think you've got a couple of options here:

Stay, do nothing, and nothing will change.
Leave, be a single mum (you more or less are anyway)

or

Tell him he must change his job so that he works here, with normal hours, if you've any chance at all of saving your marriage

Phobiaphobic · 04/04/2022 18:38

Sorry, OP, your partner is a faithless, lying, gaslighting cheat. For the love of god stop pretending otherwise, whatever nonsense comes out of his mouth.

ThreeLocusts · 04/04/2022 18:37

Get rid.

schnapps76 · 04/04/2022 18:35

I can imagine how much all of what you said must hurt. There will come a time when you’ve had enough and be able to walk away from this. I wish you strength . It’s never easy when you love someone and it cuts so deep .

AllKnowingGerbil · 04/04/2022 18:19

I never checked my exes phone...until I knew he was cheating. He forgot to delete his sent emails. He worked away a lot and the giveaway was when our baby was ill and he didn't answer phone or reply to my messages. 12 hours later he called to say reception was terrible - at a city centre business event- yeah right.

Your partner sound suspicious and also an unpleasant person.

Tiredmum100 · 04/04/2022 18:03

@BreathingDeep

You sound pretty awesome OP and honestly, once you get rid of this piece of shit who seems determined to drag you down, you'll be amazed at how wonderful you start to feel.

Move on without him - you deserve so much more, and so do your children.

This! Couldn't have said it better myself.

What a disgusting way to speak to you, the "hour between your legs comment". I'm not a prude but if my husband spoke to me is such a way I would he showing him the front door. Absolutely disgusting behaviour on his part, not just with his comment but his behaviour. Gross, just gross.

BreathingDeep · 04/04/2022 18:00

You sound pretty awesome OP and honestly, once you get rid of this piece of shit who seems determined to drag you down, you'll be amazed at how wonderful you start to feel.

Move on without him - you deserve so much more, and so do your children.

Dinoasaurme · 04/04/2022 17:57

I'm so sorry youve always felt like you're "punching". My guess is you are SO not punching, but he has made you believe you are.

You are worth so much more than this man. I predict he will become quite unpleasant when you kick him out, and try every trick in the book to gaslight you and paint himself as the good guy to your friends and family. So be aware of this. There's loads of stuff on Mumsnet all about "the script" these men use, and loads of women who've been through it.

Get your friends supporting you now whilst you get everything sorted, and kick him out. I'm sorry for your kids but honestly they shouldn't grow up seeing their mum treated in that way. If they are girls they will think this is what healthy relationships look like and will likely seek out bullies for boyfriends, and if you have boys they will learn how to treat a woman from your husband. Time to change things for the better.

KaliforniaDreamz · 04/04/2022 17:55

Oh honey, run for the hills. Fast.

FancyAnOlive · 04/04/2022 17:52

OP definitely go and see a solicitor and get your ducks in a row re any shared accounts etc. Plan how you are going to leave him so he doesn't take any more from you!

What a vile abusive piece of shit. You are worth so much more than this.

WonderfulYou · 04/04/2022 17:51

I once found condoms in his work bag

Sorry to say he’s definitely cheated on you - why did you stay with him after finding the condoms?

What’s worse is that he’s trying to cheat - how desperate is he to be messaging these women and they’re just not interested that would give me the ick and I could touch him again.

ManateeFair · 04/04/2022 17:49

@SunnySideUp30Plus

Thank you everyone for taking the time to reply, share your opinions and giving me genuinely helpful advice. I have never spoken to anyone about the way he treats me as I guess I wanted to protect him and I didn't want out friends and family to think poorly of him. People love him and think he is such a great person/dad/husband. He is very attractive and always made me feel like I was punching. (even though I have also always had lots of male attention, I can be quite bubbly) I never saw myself as someone who was living in a toxic relationship, but I think I am realising now I have just been in serious denial. There have been many things over the years, which I won't go into detail here but I should have left him years ago, and in fact if I am honest I knew I shouldn't have married him but the wedding was well under-way and I thought I couldn't back out. But I believed Marriage was something that everyone has to work at, I just didn't realise I would have to work this hard. It seems that lately I have just been doing everything to get his attention and have him prioritise me. I just feel so sorry for our children, I don't want this for them. A few of you have asked about finances, I have always been the main breadwinner actually and helped him get a career and like many of you say, I am practically a single parent anyway. Gosh this is just so tough. I have given advice to friends over the years for the things they have gone through with their husbands but it is so hard to make that step for myself. Thank you again for all of your advice and support. It simply confirms everything I have been feeling and questioning about myself. In work I am very confident and successful, at home, it seems I am a doormat. This thread had been eye opening, truly.
I’m so sorry you’re having to go through this. Whatever you do, don’t blame yourself - you’ve tried really hard to make your marriage work. He is the one who has ruined things, not you. He doesn’t deserve someone as good as you.
Newmumatlast · 04/04/2022 17:44

@SunnySideUp30Plus

I have never done this before but I am in a world of confusion and I hope that someone can (perhaps) talk some sense into me. I am a mum of two young children (under 5) and I am married to a man that helps a lot when he is around but he works away now most of the time. I never thought I would be raising two young children alone and I feel sad for that but also very grateful post-pandemic that he has work, as we had a tough time for a while with us both being out of work. Anway, recently he came back from a trip that was a few months long, I had this aching feeling while he was away that something wasn't right, he felt a little distanced on the phone and I know there were some heavy nights out with colleagues (he never goes out at home, out of his choice and I think definitely letting off some steam) when he came home, I did the unthinkable to put my mind at rest...I went through his whatsapps. I saw a couple of questionable conversations with female colleagues, two conversations in fact. One with a woman which was a few days of banter and then a few drunk texts where It looked like she was testing the waters asking his intentions, and asking him to be more direct with her and he also asked what her intentions were with him. There were a few suggestive posts as to this is where I am staying but other than that not too much to write home about. I asked him about this and he pleaded with me nothing happened, though went into a defensive mode and told me he was messaging her because I never answered my phone. (we spoke everyday via calls in the evenings, I love to message him but he barely replies as he is always busy or tired) He was being very harsh with me and I just begged him to give me some reassurance that everything was okay. He told me " I spent last night between your legs for an hour, what more reassurance do you need" I found this to be so hurtful and insensitive. He told me this woman and He talked the next day in person and he told her nothing would happen and that he was married. and apparently she didn't realise. Then I also found a 2nd conversation with another woman, there was a lot more 'banter' here and then eventually when the woman told him she was leaving the place of work and returning home he confessed he was sad because he wanted to spend more time with her. This woman was particularly attractive and this whole thing has sent me into a tailspin. Am I overreacting over work colleagues that are spending time together abroad and enjoying a shared experience etc is this type of chat bound to happen and am I being too sensitive? I think what gets me the most is that my husband responds in quite a cruel and fiery way, I would love him to take me in his arms and tell me that there is nobody else but me or that he loves me but instead, he says I am jealous, have issues and that isn't his fault. They are just colleagues, he is flirting maybe but nothing would ever come of it.

I also need to add, and this pains me because I have never mentioned this to anyone, I once found condoms in his work bag and he told me they were for emergencies, that he may f787k up his life but he doesn't want to do that for someone else.

He definitely does not have a way with words and can be quite tough sometimes, but he is the father of my kids, people love him, I love him but I just don't know what to think now. How am I going to feel content with him working away now knowing what I have read. I am so confused, am I being unreasonable to be so down and upset with him. I feel sick, anxious and can't concentrate on anything since he has returned, please tell me your honest opinions.

I work full time too and take care of the children and I am just feeling so underappreciated that he feels it is okay to have a fun and care free time while he is away and I am struggling to make it through every day alone with my hands full.

I'm sorry " I once found condoms in his work bag and he told me they were for emergencies, that he may f787k up his life but he doesn't want to do that for someone else"... wtf?!

He wouldnt ever have an emergency if he didnt sleep with anyone else.

This tells you all you need to know. And he shouldn't be telling another woman he is sad she is leaving as he wants to spend more time with her. That isnt at all innocent. Cheaters often deflect. I get that there are reasons people cheat and it is complex and sometimes it can be because of stuff involving the non cheater. However the key here is his response. He isnt understanding or trying to improve things with you. He is deflecting, making it all down to you being jealous and accepting no responsibility himself for how you feel - which is natural for you given his messages to these women - and is making you feel you've overreacted. Classic deflection out of guilt.

Norgie · 04/04/2022 17:43

Emergency condoms?
Spent an hour between your legs?
Ugh, what an absolute peach he sounds!!
Get some self respect and get rid.

SleepingStandingUp · 04/04/2022 17:42

I once found condoms in his work bag and he told me they were for emergencies, that he may f787k up his life but he doesn't want to do that for someone else
So, he carries condoms in case he goes to fuck another another but doesn't want to impregnate her and ruin her life. Just yours. He doesn't need protection against your life because he doesn't care.

Thesefeetaremadeforwalking · 04/04/2022 17:41

OP, I'm sorry that this is happening.

Please take steps to get rid of this individual as soon as the new Divorce Laws become active.

Sunnytwobridges · 04/04/2022 17:39

He sounds disgusting. Any love you have for him should've been gone with that between your legs comment, and then add on all of his other shady behaviour, it would be a wrap for me.

I think he's lying, and I wouldn't be surprised if he hasn't already cheated if not he's well on his way he just needs the right opportunity.

Whatwouldnanado · 04/04/2022 17:38

You sound lovely and deserve so much better than this weasel of a man. Get your paperwork together, rally close friends and get rid.

Bambooshoot · 04/04/2022 17:38

@Bambooshoot

Let’s put it this way - when you go out, do you carry an emergency pack of conforms just in case you meet someone you absolutely have to have sex with, despite being married? And if not, why would he have a different set of rules?
Condoms! Prudish autocorrect.