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Why can’t the doctors help with this?

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Buffalostance89 · 31/03/2022 19:12

Dd, almost 4, has been having tummy ache on and off since October. Wasn’t very regularly at first, but has become worse the last month or so.
She now has tummy ache after everything she eats, regardless of what it is, there’s no pattern to the food. She has excess gas, poos fairly regularly but says it’s hard to loo sometimes. I’ve used gentle laxatives, gas drops…she’s had a stomach scan, poo analysis and urine analysis-all clear.
It’s getting to the point where she’s worried to eat now and is hungry 🥲
Her behaviour is becoming affected and she jumps around, is hyper, bites cushions etc, so obviously in pain.
I have another appointment on Monday where I’m going to go nuts if they fob me off with saying stomach aches are normal at this age etc and tests are clear.
Has anyone had similar to this, so awful to see her like this, getting desperate now 🙏

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SirVixofVixHall · 31/03/2022 22:23

Don’t give up gluten until she has been screened for coeliac disease, or the test won’t be accurate.
Gut bacteria can be very disrupted by tummy bugs, you can get her gut bacteria tested privately, and if there is an issue you can give her keffir, or buy supplements to restore the microbiome. It may be just this as it started after the bug.

TroublesomeTrucks · 31/03/2022 22:21

[quote Buffalostance89]@TroublesomeTrucks She’s had a scan of her tummy, would this rule it out?[/quote]
I’m not sure, sorry.

MimosaFields · 31/03/2022 22:20

It could also be too much fibre. You mention fibre in your posts. Is that standard amounts from fruit and veg or is she having it from other sources?

Abaababa · 31/03/2022 22:18

Try Children’s prebiotics to rebalance the gut. Can’t hurt.

MangyInseam · 31/03/2022 22:15

I'm not sure I would just start feeding a child that age only liquid, or rice, without medical supervision.

But aside from getting some tests for celiac, I'd try cutting out dairy. A food diary won't always make lactose intolerance clear, because if the bowel is very irritated from the dairy it will be reactive to lots of other foods too. I's try a week without dairy and see. You need to really watch ingredients, lots of weird things like crackers and granola bars and chicken nuggets have dairy - it will be called milk solids or whey protein, usually. Have a look at some websites to see what to look for. Sometimes these ingredients can be worse than straight milk.

Some people, once they have their gut back to normal, can manage to eat some dairy products that are relatively low lactose but at first you need to give it time to heal.

Josette77 · 31/03/2022 22:14

My son was so constipated he had his urine blocked and had to go to the ER for an emergency catheter.
He is lactose intolerant and gets very gassy after eating dairy. So do I. I am also celiac. In order to see a difference you need to keep her off milk for a long time.
Also if she was sick not long ago has she been on probiotics? That should help.

This might be a stuoid question but does Trumps mean fart?

Dovecare · 31/03/2022 22:13

I am a retired health visitor and when mums came up with problems like this my first port of call was to suggest a week or so of cutting out wheat products and/or dairy products. We had quite a high success rate and the doctor took over from there with referral to dietician etc.

Buffalostance89 · 31/03/2022 22:08

Thanks so much everyone

I had a normal gp appointment booked, if I can get a private gastro paediatric one, is this the specialised one I need to get?

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Ineverpromisedyouarosegarden · 31/03/2022 22:05

Yes a large stool can press on the urinary tract tubes and that can cause a urinary tract infection and send you down a completely different wrong path. I really hope you get it sorted. Rule out most common things first.

TatianaBis · 31/03/2022 22:03

Keep pushing OP and insist on a test for Coeliac.

If you want to test for sensitivity to certain foods as opposed to actual allergies you need to cut them out for a while before reintroducing and observing the reaction.

Buffalostance89 · 31/03/2022 22:00

@Ineverpromisedyouarosegarden Would constipation also cause her to feel pain in the front? She sometimes says she feels pain her ‘Pee pee’ as she calls it and that she needs a wee, but it doesn’t come. This is why she had a urine test too, so hard to decipher what’s going on
Thanks so much for your feedback

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Buffalostance89 · 31/03/2022 21:58

Tmi here, but I’ve noticed some of her pops are two tone in colour and texture as in one side/part is lighter and dry/hard, the other darker and sloppier, just looks odd

Oh I feel for her so much as we’ve tried so hard not to make it an issue in front of her but can see now she’s worried to eat and constantly running to the toilet and back again

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FawnFrenchieMum · 31/03/2022 21:57

I have so many different bowel conditions and the symptoms overlap so much, half of the time I don’t know what is causing what. I have IBS, Crohn’s & bowel prolapse. I was lactose intolerance for a while as well but that seems to have sorted itself out.

Buffalostance89 · 31/03/2022 21:53

@lisaandalan To poo?

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FawnFrenchieMum · 31/03/2022 21:52

www.webmd.com/digestive-disorders/what-is-fecal-impaction

Goawayangryman · 31/03/2022 21:52

Is she a healthy height and weight?
I really wouldn't start cutting random food groups out. If it is coeliac she needs to be eating gluten when tested. If lactose intolerance the doc can do a breath test or lactose challenge. But if she has persistent pain that has come on in weeks, and is struggling to eat and unhappy she really needs further investigation. Likely it's not anything serious but you are right to keep banging the drum.

FawnFrenchieMum · 31/03/2022 21:50

Look up overflow diarrhoea, that may explain the watery stools. When I’m badly constipated I get pain as soon as I eat, sometimes to the degree I can’t eat as I’m already ‘full’ because the stool is so backed up.

Guineapigssweak · 31/03/2022 21:47

IBS? It runs in my family and all started off as a child.

Xmassprout · 31/03/2022 21:46

I know you've said you've tried days eliminating certain foods, but with allergies, quite often it can takes weeks with that food eliminated before symptoms ease.

Ineverpromisedyouarosegarden · 31/03/2022 21:46

Yes, could be that, would it be immediate stomach ache after eating though, every time they eat?

Yes very common in constipation. I would ask Dr to rule it out.

lisaandalan · 31/03/2022 21:45

If you can afford it and the dr will not do them pay for private allergy testing. X

Ineverpromisedyouarosegarden · 31/03/2022 21:45

I would only start restricting foods on advice of a paediatrician. From experience you end up with deficiencies in vitamins and minerals. Don't make the mistakes we made. Get proper professional medical advice.

Afterallsbeensaidanddone · 31/03/2022 21:44

Could you try the fodmap diet?

lisaandalan · 31/03/2022 21:44

It might be causing her anxiety. X

Buffalostance89 · 31/03/2022 21:43

@Ineverpromisedyouarosegarden Yes, could be that, would it be immediate stomach ache after eating though, every time they eat?
Also, she eats a diet full of fibre and healthy foods, any idea why they get constipated and what a long term solution is? The doctor hasn’t even mentioned constipation

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