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To be concerned about the rise of antisemitism in the UK?

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hibbledibble · 27/01/2022 16:17

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10447069/Terrifying-moment-Jewish-shop-owners-suffer-random-anti-Semitic-attack-London-street.html

Sorry that this is a daily mail article, but such events are common, but rarely reported on.

Antisemitism has increased at a worrying rate recently, and there seems to be little concern about this.

An example of antisemitism being tolerated, is that when footage of the above crime was posted to a local group on social media, some were saying that these men may have deserved the assault, and unpleasant comments made about Jews.

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CaptainMarvelDanvers · 27/01/2022 17:17

@RunningInTheWind

Stand by for the “I’m not anti Semitic- I just hate Israel” ad nauseum.

I’m Jewish too and agree, it’s the last form of acceptable racism. “Because Israel”. Hmm

Haha, it’s so see through too, though I think they have convinced themselves they’re not.
dorkfink · 27/01/2022 17:17

I know that French Jews definitely left because of antisemitism

Yes that's definitely true

knitnerd90 · 27/01/2022 17:17

I don't think it's so simple as CRT really (but I am currently in the US and things are a bit different). I do think there's a popular perception that Jews are all rich white people and so it doesn't really matter.

Maireas · 27/01/2022 17:15

Well it's up to us to report it, challenge it, make a stance. Particularly those of us who are non Jewish. I'm not black or gay, but would definitely do so over incidents of other forms of racism, and homophobia. Zero tolerance.
Same for antisemitism.

PonyPatter44 · 27/01/2022 17:15

Its perfectly possible to be critical of some of the actions of the State of Israel, which is a legitimate sovereign state and isnt going anywhere, without descending into antisemitism. ALL racism and hate speech needs to be challenged robustly.

There is a candle in my window tonight.

onlychildhamster · 27/01/2022 17:13

I am Jewish and my SIL says that she feels that the rise in immigration to Israel is due to anti-semitism. Certainly i went to 2 flat viewings in my area and both were being sold by elderly ladies who have moved to Israel. 2 of my husband's sisters have also left. I know that French Jews definitely left because of antisemitism.

Sashimimimi · 27/01/2022 17:13

People, especially in the Labour part and on the “left”, are in denial that it’s on the rise.

The guardian chose to All Lives Matter the holocaust today 🙄

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/jan/27/black-people-were-hitlers-victims-too-that-must-not-be-forgotten

LondonWolf · 27/01/2022 17:12

Well this is what you get when you start pushing CRT and the idea that society is organised entirely by race and then push Jews firmly into the white/white adjacent category. Oh and when the only news anyone ever hears about them is the one sided reports on how Israel is behaving over Palestine.

YANB at all U.

AffIt · 27/01/2022 17:12

I am not Jewish, but grew up in an area of Scotland that has always been home to a large Jewish population - I don't want to be that 'but some of my best friends are...' person, but elements of Jewish culture, such as lighting Shabbath candles in one of my 'auntie's' homes etc, have always been present in my life.

I'm also horsey, so have always had friends from and lots of interaction with the travelling community.

I'm sickened and sorry for people who have experienced discrimination of any kind - it is not acceptable.

I've had this discussion with many Jewish friends in particular, who often shrug their shoulders and say 'it's always been'.

Why, though? Why is is this kind of discrimination seen as acceptable?

I'll be honest, I have some problems with Zionism, but so do many of my Jewish friends, in the sense that 'it's not the concept, it's the execution'.

However, I do not for one moment believe that having a bit of an issue with a sociopolitical standpoint is any rationale or excuse for bigotry or racism.

knitnerd90 · 27/01/2022 17:08

Yes & it's one thing I don't miss having left the UK (am Jewish) :( "But Israel" indeed. And they always find one or two Jews to agree with them unless they've gone completely Holocaust-denial-bonkers. So tired of all the times I was told antisemitism was all made up to undermine Corbyn...

Twilightstarbright · 27/01/2022 17:07

I’m concerned too, and it doesn’t feel like it’s taken seriously enough.

Distant01 · 27/01/2022 17:07

I'm sorry for anyone experiencing this. It's totally unacceptable.
Today we remember Holocaust Day and all the people who perished ❤️
I will light a candle tonight in remembrance.

Maireas · 27/01/2022 17:06

I will light a candle, I'm not Jewish.
I am, however, it History teacher and have been teaching the Holocaust.
Two students have claimed that it's made up, there's no such thing.
This is what we're up against.

dorkfink · 27/01/2022 17:06

I think it's abhorrent & am very confused as to why it's acceptable & victim blaming is the default.

JustDanceAddict · 27/01/2022 17:06

@RunningInTheWind

Stand by for the “I’m not anti Semitic- I just hate Israel” ad nauseum.

I’m Jewish too and agree, it’s the last form of acceptable racism. “Because Israel”. Hmm

Can’t wait for that… As if Jewish people in the UK control Israel’s government & army.
Greenandcabbagelooking · 27/01/2022 17:05

I avoid telling people I'm Jewish if at all possible. It's scary. My candle is lit. Never Forget.

BarrowInFurnessRailwayStation · 27/01/2022 17:05

I agree. People seem to just casually accept it as well.

OnlyAFleshWound · 27/01/2022 17:04

Yanbu

I'm Jewish and have never known a time like this. The 2019 election was terrifying (I live in a key Jewish constituency). I'm scared

DrSbaitso · 27/01/2022 17:03

I was once out in the pub and a Jewish friend mentioned she was Jewish...can't remember exactly how it came up but it was relevant to the conversation, I didn't have any feeling of "why are you mentioning that". Immediately some twat asked her why Jewish people always have to make such a big deal about being Jewish. I was too stunned to say anything, but she looked dead at him and said, "Because we're still getting comments like that."

Stopped him dead, ruined the atmosphere but he deserved it. Good for her. Mazal tov.

Justcallmebebes · 27/01/2022 17:03

I'm not Jewish but do care very much and will certainly be lighting a candle for my window tonite

JustDanceAddict · 27/01/2022 17:03

I’m Jewish too and it’s very worrying. And people still don’t understand why most Jews hate Corbyn/Long-Bailey etc.
I didn’t know that re Rashford, totally agree w the PP’s comment above.
It’s Holocaust Memorial Day today so please, Never Forget.

AuntMasha · 27/01/2022 17:03

Seeing the footage of that attack on the two elders by a young thug I was absolutely sickened to the pit of my stomach. How can this be happening?

I agree with pp that hatred and bigotry directed at our Jewish and Traveller communities is rife and seen in some quarters as acceptable.

Maireas · 27/01/2022 17:02

It's of great concern.
That incident with the bus on Oxford Street just before Christmas was vile - young Jewish people on a bus, going to celebrate Chanukah, targeted like that. Then the stories that they had been saying racist things on the bus, shared by the Guardian and the BBC, which turned out to be unfounded.
I wrote to my MP about some antisemitic attacks in my area. It took her months to reply because she was "busy with covid". She's Labour.

RunningInTheWind · 27/01/2022 17:02

Stand by for the “I’m not anti Semitic- I just hate Israel” ad nauseum.

I’m Jewish too and agree, it’s the last form of acceptable racism. “Because Israel”. Hmm

ISaySteadyOn · 27/01/2022 17:00

YANBU at all.