To think this cartoon is NOT appropriate for an 11-year-old!?

I don't know why safeguarding seems to be a new buzzword thrown and applied to everything it's not relevant to, but anyway, no it isn't.

@Promleafyus i was responding to someone who was justifying her point by saying she worked in safeguarding. That's the only reason I used it. Absolutely it doesn't apply but for that reason. neither does it strengthen her argument.

*“Everybody else is doing it” can be used to justify literally any behaviour including for example carrying knives/guns to school, getting drunk, preteen sex etc.
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You can't really compare it to carrying guns or knives ffs. It's not illegal for an 11 year old to watch this. In fact a 4 year old could with adult permission. It's not putting people Kobe's at risk. It's nothing like going out and getting hammered either, more equivalent to buying one drink a couple of months before your 18th. No big deal either.

Meh. I was an avid reader of Viz at that age. My parents weren't exactly delighted but picked their battles right.

YANBU.

“Everybody else is doing it” can be used to justify literally any behaviour including for example carrying knives/guns to school, getting drunk, preteen sex etc.

Raise your child your way OP and ignore the people who think eleven year old girls should be taught swearing and about BDSM etc. It’s grim.

Trust me school kids are saying and talking about those topics.

Id let her watch but on the caveat that if you think the behaviours are rubbing off then there will be consequences, i.e. you may stop her watching it.

I would let her. I used to watch South Park on the sly with my much younger brother at that age. I'd maybe say to her though that if she thinks she is mature enough to watch the cartoon then she should be mature enough to know when it it is and isn't appropriate to use certain language.

The swearing - I couldn’t get upset over that.

Jokes about prostitution and BDSM references? NOPE.

Ignore your husband - women aren’t passive objects for mens pleasure

Anyway I doubt DD will understand the bdsm jokes

YABU but I get where you’re coming from. If she’s mature enough then maybe let her watch it, it’s hardly pornography (which was the reason why I clogged up the laptop at around her age).

Forbidden fruit tastes the sweetest. A ban’s unenforceable unless you spend 24/7 together, far better to discuss the issues raised and make sure her perception of them is correct. There’s the opportunity to teach some good life lessons.

As a secondary safeguard do you really think a 12A programme is a safeguarding issue for a nearly 12 year old?

I used to work in a safeguarding role with children at primary and secondary schools and some of you are absolute idiots.

Just because kids say things/knows swear words/knows the words bdsm etc does not mean they know what is , or have the emotional intelligence to understand it.

You aren’t doing your kids any favours by being relaxed about them watching violence or sexualised stuff.

She's 11. She won't be hurt by the word "fuck", for fuck's sake. As for the references to sex and prostitution, I suppose it depends on the extent and context. At her age I would imagine she knows about these things already, so if it's just passing references to them I wouldn't be concerned, but if there's actual explicit sex scenes or if prostitution is glorified, that's different.

If you weren't so hardline a better approach might have been to watch sn episode or two with her and pick up on the bits you don't like (not the swearing, FFS, who cares?) and talk to her about them. Good opportunity to talk about the exploitation associated with prostitution, etc.

There’s nothing wrong with having firm boundaries - in fact it will help your dd assess what she encounters because she will measure it against the standard of what would mum think

It’s really important to have these alternative standards in a world that is essentially grooming our dc. She might be closer to thirty before she appreciates your point of view but your values and standards will matter to her.

If she thinks this is ok viewing it’s a clear indication that she hasn’t the maturity for it yet.

Oh and I do think there is more of a difference between a 10 and 11 year old than an 11 and 12 when the 11 year old is a high school not primary pupil

YANBU to try and get her to stop watching it, but don't blame the other girls. Your DDs behaviour is her responsibility, no-one else's.

She's at high school, she's going to have access to all sorts anyway and banning stuff like this probably won't go well (or even be effective) Tbh though friends mentions a lot of these topics and is currently the in thing for dd(8) and all her peers. It largely goes over their head.

I would disallow it, but there is a good chance she'll see it anyway. So it might be worth talking with her about why it's inappropriate, whet the effects are of watching things that have disrespectful, sexist, or otherwise disturbing material.

I'd also add, I think in a lot of ways it's also inappropriate for adults. It's not just that it's adult material, a lot of it is just nasty.

YANBU in not wanting her to watch it.

YABU if you think you can stop her.

I would discuss it with her, see what she thinks of the themes of the show, hopefully if you do it enough she will realise some of it is inappropriate and ideally, cringe so hard at having to discuss it with you that she either stops.. or doesn't reference it at home or in your earshot.

You won't stop her watching it as long as she has friends who have devices, and as long as she leaves your home daily, and is beyond your physical supervision.

So you do the best you can do, but I think telling her it is outright banned, she must never ever watch it means she will run to find EVERY way possible to watch it without your being able to stop her.