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To want all my teeth removed? (Trigger warning, suicide mentioned)

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CureTheToothPain · 19/01/2022 20:00

I’m early 30s. Get nagged by the dentist everytime I go because my teeth are rotting and crumbling. I have so many fillings and half teeth, but had none removed yet, a few have fallen out though.

I get pain daily in my cheeks and lower jaw and have done for some time.

I brush 3 times a day (after the dentist told me to) but still get the pain, I also floss and use mouthwash.

I get sinus issues- caused by hayfever and allergies in spring and summer and the cold in winter, so that’s likely why my top teeth have so many problems.

I’m also on inhalers for asthma which I’m told are terrible for teeth.

I have near daily paracetamol and I’ve ended up in hospital on morphine and tramadol before the pain is that bad.

Some days it hurts to eat so I don’t.

I’ve been looking at dentures, and I’m seriously considering having all of my teeth (or at least my top ones) removed and using a denture. It would save the 6 monthly nag from the dentist who doesn’t seem to get that I’m doing everything they’ve told me to do and I’m still likely to lose all my teeth before I’m 40, it would save me being kept awake from hunger because I’d be able to eat.

It would basically save my life because I am in so much pain sometimes I’d be better off dead.

Is this something that can be done? I’d obviously rather have my natural teeth but I’m in so much pain near enough daily that I think I’d be better without them.

OP posts:
Yuppie20 · 19/01/2022 20:56

My friend who has just turned 30 has exactly the same problem. It got worse after every pregnancy and turned out after her then 6yr old daughter had to have a couple of her teeth removed it was a genetic condition that made her teeth like that. She currently has a bridge but the rest of her top teeth are getting pulled in the next few months and she is getting a denture fitted. She cannot wait!!

sansucre · 19/01/2022 20:55

@RobertSmithsLipstick

I've been having a really dry mouth for a couple of years, and it seems to have exacerbated my tooth problems.
The lack of saliva allows more plaque to form and your gums to recede which exposes more tooth to possible decay.

Short term, buy Biotene mouthwash as it really helps with dry mouth.
Long term, get your hormones looked at as dry mouth can be symbiotic of low oestrogen levels. Frustratingly, it is rare for doctors or dentists to make this connection but it is something that happens to many women, particularly as they age/hit perimenopause/menopause.

OP - my dad had bad teeth and had them all removed in his 30s and wore dentures. It was actually quite a common thing to do at one point.

CureTheToothPain · 19/01/2022 20:54

@EmmaH2022

"I get pain daily in my cheeks and lower jaw and have done for some time."

Do you grind your teeth or clench your jaw?

Also, have you stuck with the one dentist? Sadly, there are some real con artists around so just wondered.

@EmmaH2022 I'm registered at my nearest NHS dentist and have been registered there for since I was 16, but I've never seen the same dentist more than 3 times before I see someone new. Sometimes I've seen them once then never again.
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MeridasMum · 19/01/2022 20:52

Have you considered dental implants OP? They are incredibly expensive, however, if it's affordable for you, it might be worth looking into

OnTheBoardwalk · 19/01/2022 20:52

Can you change to another dentist at the practice rather than finding a totally new one?

Due to number of factors my mum ended up having all her teeth out early 40's. She's struggled ever since with dentures. She can’t afford veneers but has spent a small fortune over the years trying to get a good fit and is still in pain when she hasn’t got one

I brush and use the tape brushes daily. If I go even a couple of days without the brushes I get bleeding gums again

Only thing apart from the tepe brushes that help me keep on top of my teeth is hygienist appointments every 3 months. Coats £40 a time but helps me stay on top of my teeth and gums

NorthernLighting · 19/01/2022 20:51

@Houseofvelour

DH is a dentist and this is his take on it:

"Never ever ever have all teeth removed at an early age. Try to keep all canines and at least one molar tooth in each quarter.
Without teeth bone shrinks away, especially if teeth are removed at a young age so when you're 60, there won't be much bone there to keep dentures in and you'll likely be stuck with no teeth at all.
The cause of the daily pain needs to be investigated as it could be an underlying condition or could even be psychological.
There are different causes of pain. It could be from the teeth, other nerves or something else.
It needs to be looked into before removing any teeth as you could have them all removed but still be in pain.
Dentures of course can be done privately but they're very rarely a first choice when you're young."

Good and useful reply.
spaghettiyeti · 19/01/2022 20:49

Are you rinsing your mouth with water then spitting it out after you have taken your asthma meds, OP? I take a variety and this is drummed into me frequently, every time I collect my Ventolin etc from the pharmacist.

There was another Mner a while ago who posted about this issue too, she had all of her teeth removed. I wonder if I can try & locate her post.

Mamamia344 · 19/01/2022 20:49

@RobertSmithsLipstick

I've been having a really dry mouth for a couple of years, and it seems to have exacerbated my tooth problems.
Yess same here as I have developed Sjogrens syndrome and every 6 months I need more fillings and crowns. The hygienist says I clean perfectly and I keep a strict routine.
honeyfox · 19/01/2022 20:48

I've been using asthma inhalers for 34 years now, every dentist I've had has known that and this is the first time I've ever heard of them affecting teeth in such a serious way.

It could well be genetic or a condition but you need to get sorted somehow, it's no way to live. Do you have a university dental hospital nearby, sometimes they have an A&E that is free or subsidised?

CurtailingChaos · 19/01/2022 20:48

Are you brushing them too much/too hard? You also shouldn’t brush after food as your mouth is more acidic then so you brush the enamel away causing problems.

The serious effects of overbrushing
Brushing regularly is vital for healthy teeth and gums, but dental experts warn that you can overdo a good thing. Known as “toothbrush abrasion,” overbrushing can lead to sensitive teeth and receding gums. When you brush too hard, you can wear down the outer layer of your teeth

moggiek · 19/01/2022 20:48

I lost my teeth gradually over a number of years (a genetic problem, my mum was the same and made sure that I took care of my teeth, sadly to no avail). I have had full upper and lower dentures for the last 30 years, but I can still remember the constant pain of toothache!!

UniversalAunt · 19/01/2022 20:47

It sounds like you need to see a specialist dentist.

Go see your GP & explain exactly what has happened with the dentist, that the meds you need for your asthma may be affecting the integrity of your teeth. Particularly the amount of pain you have & the amount of painkillers you take. You need to see a specialist at the dental hospital.

You need an in depth medical assessment to work out what is going on.

Shadowside · 19/01/2022 20:46

Speak to your dentist and asked to be referred to a dental hospital so that you can have a thorough investigation and find the underlying cause of your pain and teeth issues. You shouldn't have to put up with a dentist who isn't taking your concerns seriously.

EmmaH2022 · 19/01/2022 20:44

"I get pain daily in my cheeks and lower jaw and have done for some time."

Do you grind your teeth or clench your jaw?

Also, have you stuck with the one dentist? Sadly, there are some real con artists around so just wondered.

guestusername · 19/01/2022 20:32

You can be fitted with a temporary denture while your gums and bones do what they need to do until you can have your full time ones so there’s absolutely no need for you to be without teeth at any point in the process.

It’s bloody miserable when you’ve got teeth problems. Please talk to your dentist and at least see what your options are

waterrat · 19/01/2022 20:32

Op I'm shocked your dentist isn't referring you on for more serious treatment if he can't help himself. Eg my daughter had an ingrowing tooth and was referred to a large dental hospital near us. I realise adult care may not be free as children's are (I don't know how nhs dental care works ( )

You need a proper consultation with someone who sets out all the available options for fixing your teeth and gum problems.

Nobody here can diagnose your issues but clearly thus goes way beyond a dentist check up every six months who just tells you to brush your teeth more.

Go back to the dentist and explain you are q dental emergency you are in severe pain and you want to know what your options are.

OnLockdown · 19/01/2022 20:28

My DF had all his taken out although he was older than you when he did. He has had dentures for about 20 years now and as far as I know he's never had any problems with them.

Winter2020 · 19/01/2022 20:28

You might like to have a look at/ try the advice here
drellie.com/ before you go ahead with drastic action.

It's free advice (you don't need to pay to access).

My dentist could see the improvement in my gums (although I never told him why).

From my experience go steady with the xylitol as it can upset your gut. I would suggest you spit it out to minimise the chance of this (like mouthwash). The xylitol was good at reducing sensitivity e.g. pain of cold weather hitting the teeth for me.

Houseofvelour · 19/01/2022 20:24

DH is a dentist and this is his take on it:

"Never ever ever have all teeth removed at an early age. Try to keep all canines and at least one molar tooth in each quarter.
Without teeth bone shrinks away, especially if teeth are removed at a young age so when you're 60, there won't be much bone there to keep dentures in and you'll likely be stuck with no teeth at all.
The cause of the daily pain needs to be investigated as it could be an underlying condition or could even be psychological.
There are different causes of pain. It could be from the teeth, other nerves or something else.
It needs to be looked into before removing any teeth as you could have them all removed but still be in pain.
Dentures of course can be done privately but they're very rarely a first choice when you're young."

RobertSmithsLipstick · 19/01/2022 20:21

I've been having a really dry mouth for a couple of years, and it seems to have exacerbated my tooth problems.

DobbyTheHouseElk · 19/01/2022 20:19

Inhalers do cause tooth decay. The GP told us when DC had an inhaler. My nephew had metal caps put on his teeth to prevent decay when using the inhaler.

I’d change dentist as ask for them to be removed or something else they can offer which will leave you pain free. Unfortunately I have found private dentists are more helpful and have more to offer.

MyHusbandTheIdiot · 19/01/2022 20:19

X-post @OfstedOffred!

blubberyboo · 19/01/2022 20:19

@ChampagneLassie

Or maybe your sis just tells herself that people are lying all the time! People that have problems

My husbands dentist actually told him the opposite that your teeth quality are actually a lot to do with your genes and some people will just have bad teeth no matter what.
Op have you looked into implants? They are expensive but if you could save or get a loan for them it might be just what you need.
If not you defo should look into dentures even if you have to go private. Mouth pain is no fun and I’ve just watched a relative starve to death with oral cancer because it was too painful to eat. If you aren’t eating you need to sort it.

MyHusbandTheIdiot · 19/01/2022 20:18

Have amelogenesis imperfecta or enamel hypoplasia ever been mentioned as possibilities OP?

Either way, I can’t see why dentures wouldn’t be an option if that’s what you really wanted, it wasn’t so long ago that they were almost the norm.

Best of luck whatever you choose.

RobertSmithsLipstick · 19/01/2022 20:17

My teeth are in a bad way, despite always attending appointments, and brushing/flossing.
I often feel bits crumbling away, and I'm starting to wonder if it's worth trying to hang on to what's left...

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