To want all my teeth removed? (Trigger warning, suicide mentioned)

OP

There could be various things going on.
E.g. I had neuropathic pain in my teeth and had to go to a dentist who was also a qualified pain specialist; who had to do a trial and error approach but did find a medication that worked. Nb neuropathic pain is ... tada..unexplained nerve pain.
Was lucky that my SIL was a dentist and referred me to the specialist dentist. You may need to get insistent with your dentist.

Sinusitis - I found that taking zinc consistently really helped. It may also help with any infections behind your teeth problems?

I know someone that had all their teeth removed, but then was unable to get on with dentures. They just wouldn't fit. After the event, another dentist advised they should never have had all teeth out if it could be helped as it is easier to have some teeth to anchor dentures to. I don't know how true this is for all but worth consideration if you do decide to have teeth removed. Really hope you find a solution OP

That sounds awful. Can you swap dentist? Sounds like you need a caring professional to understand the root cause and put treatment in place

my friend is in early 40s , she had same problem , all her teeth were crumbling , she already had some removed , but the rest were driving her mad, it was putting her off eating as bits were coming off if she ate , she had the rest taken out and dentures were fitted at same time and shes fine , really happy as she says she can eat properly ,.doesnt feel embarressed about smiling anymore

i also have same problem , im 50 this year , had to have eight taken out ,iv got a top and bottom plate for the missing ones , and the ones that are remaining are giving me aggro sometimes , i do sometimes wonder if the whole lot out and the full denture would be easier

it would be worth looking at different dentists , personally and i know its easier said than done , but i cant help feeling that it would be better to have decent dentures than decaying and half teeth that are your own , me and my friend have nhs dentists , the way they make plates and dentures now they just look like your own teeth anyway

I am now consistent with using my oral b brush morning and night. The hygienist showed me how to use it to brush my teeth AND gums and I think that helps.

My dentist says that a lot of it is to do with genetics and luck. She has a lot of problems herself despite being a dentist and having a very strict regime. She says that some people can do everything right and still end up with a lot of issues and some people get away with doing fuck all, waving a toothbrush vaguely around their mouths once or twice a day and have hardly any issues at all.

You need consistent care from one, good dentist and not having to see different people each time.
You need to be examined properly - there's a lot more going on there than just "not brushing properly" which you seem to be doing, it's just the dentists you've seen haven't believed you.

Something else to consider is that you could have All-on-4 implants if you do have all teeth removed. These are very expensive however.
However, it's best to preserve as many of your own teeth as possible, have implants with bridges to fill in any gaps.
As someone else said it's important to try to preserve bone. Once all teeth are removed and you wear an ordinary denture the bone loss is significant.

Please try to find another dentist.

Implants is not a solution here, whatever happened to your natural teeth would affect implants even more!! I would change dentist, find one you trust and get to the reason for your pain.

OP, what's your diet like?
And when you say you brush floss and use mouthwash three times a day. What toothpaste are you using and do you use mouthwash straight after brushing?

I wanted all my teeth removed too! But I found the right dentist and 6 root canal surgeries and a lot of help later I am fine and so glad I didn't! Pain free got 4 years, look forward to my check up. Change your dentist is my advice.

This is pretty shocking. You should be referred to a specialist. There may possibly even be a case of you getting subsidised dental care if diagnosed with a dental condition. Look it up, phone a local dental specialist hospital or orthodontist. Ask how you go about getting diagnosed. Here is a link I just googled. Good luck. Dental implants might help to retain bone structure if you get them rather than dentures.

www.dentaly.org/en/teeth-implants-cost/dental-implants-nhs/

Poor you, that sounds awful. I'm shocked that your dentist is so rude to you and disbelieves that you care for them. I agree that good and bad teeth are as much to do with genes as actual care. I might have to whisper this but I often only clean my teeth once a day. I am 45 and have NEVER had a filling, not one. I had an impacted wisdom tooth out in my twenties but apart from that no issues, ever. My dentist always compliments me on my film star teeth (I had braces as a teen and they are very straight) and how well I look after them. So, there you go. It's just good genes for me.

My mums teeth crumbled after having children. It turned out to be a calcium problem from pregnancy.

I really feel for you. I have dreadful teeth (three extractions, two crowns, fillings in over half my teeth by my early 30s…) and I remember the dentist telling me I had the worst teeth he’d seen of someone by age. I was so ashamed and humiliated. I’ve brushed my teeth twice a day all my life, flossed, reduced sugar etc I’ve no idea why they are so bad. I hate going to the dentist now because I feel so embarrassed. I still go every six months of course but it causes huge anxiety.

If I had pain too like you do OP, I’d be considering dentures too. I hope you can get some answers as that level of pain sounds horrendous.

Were you on steroids or lots of antibiotics as a child? My friend who suffered allergies, eczema and asthma was, and the enamel on her teeth was seriously affected. Get a referral to a specialist if you can, seems more going on here than just decay.

Some people have a predisposition to teeth problems, just as some have a predisposition to diabetes or asthma, or other conditions. Genetics plays a part too.

I know of people who barely visit the dentist, drink Coke and fizzy drinks and aren’t careful with oral hygiene, yet have all their teeth and few fillings. Others do everything- clean their teeth using the recommended electric toothbrush, use floss and interdental brushes, edge brushes and everything you’re told to do, but always have problems. Yes, it’s obvious dentists often don’t believe you when you tell them your routine. I find that very offensive.

I sympathise so much - I'm 30s, and have chronic issues with my teeth, caused by clenching and grinding at night.
At one time I used to wish that I could have all my teeth removed, because like you, I am in daily pain or discomfort.
I now know though, that loss of teeth prematurely can cause a host of other issue- it absolutely isn't a free pass out of the situation.

I have had to push HARD via both my GP and dentist to be referred on for specialist support for my issues- I honestly would urge you to do the same.

Could you have them capped. I've had 2 of mine capped since I was 9 and it's fine

OP: 'I'm registered at my nearest NHS dentist and have been registered there for since I was 16, but I've never seen the same dentist more than 3 times before I see someone new. Sometimes I've seen them once then never again."

This is your issue, the lack of continuity of care from inexperienced Associate NHS dentists. You need to see a caring private dentist who can take your concerns seriously and save your teeth. Good luck.

op a lot of dentists don't know this but weak teeth can be a major symptom of coeliac disease (a reaction to gluten) it's very common and massively undiagnosed.

Thank you.
I'll get some of that mouthwash.
I'm also seeing a rheumatologist for some sort of auto immune, as yet undiagnosed issue.
(Not sjogrens, though)

I also know someone that had this done. If I was in you position I would definitely ask. I'm really sorry OP, it's horrible to read how much pain you are in. I hope you find a solution.

To make you feel better, my dad had all his top teeth removed in his 20s (at the top of Kilimanjaro while in the army!) his was due to damage when at school which was not dealt with properly leading to massive infection. He is now 83 and I always just assumed that he had perfect teeth! I would never know he had them - he even slept in them and must have taken them out to clean twice a day. He’s had no problem with dentures not fitting in all this time. I only found out he had them in my teens when he told me!

My teeth were bad, gums receding. I use the tepe brushes daily and I bought a water flosser. It's slowed the damage down and would be better than cleaning 3 times, maybe try the water flosser in place of a brush?