To want all my teeth removed? (Trigger warning, suicide mentioned)

To be honest having them all out seems to be the only option available. If they’re already rotting and crumbling, no no amount of flossing and cleaning will restore them. Only capping or dentures I think if they’re that bad. I also think genetics are involved with how good your teeth are. My DH flosses and cleans his teeth three times a day, but always seems to need a Filling on every visit - his parents both lost their teeth in their 30’s. I just brush once a day, and no flossing, just listerine before bed, and I haven’t needed fillings for years. My family all have very good teeth.

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OP I think you mentioned autoimmune issues too? A friend of mine has several autoimmune conditions and has had to have 7 teeth removed within the last 8 years since turning 40. I don't know if there is a definite confirmed link but she says dental issues are mentioned on the Facebook groups regularly.

I’ve had bruxism for ever and coupled with bad teeth genes my mouth is a mess. I have various crowns, fillings and a denture. My teeth look fine and don’t really give me much pain but it has taken years to get here.

I was told because of my bruxism, dental implants would not be an option as I would break and damage them. A maxillo facial specialist said this to me and I have to believe her. (She was giving me Botox in my jaw at the time but no this didn’t work either!)

Sometimes dentures are the only choice for people. OP, I’d find a better dentist and talk through your options. You may need to be referred to the hospital for your issues but if, ultimately, dentures are the best way forward for you, I say go for it. Nothing is worth having daily pain for.

My friends mum was at the very back of the queue when they were handing out 'good teeth'. She had hers whipped out and had full dentures at 35.

I can't see why you couldn't, although you'll more than likely have to pay privately.

I can really empathise. I have a rare genetic condition called Amelogenesis imperfecta. It means I was born with hardly any enamel on my teeth and spent many years when I was child and a teenager at dental hospitals receiving treatment. I have porcelain veneers on my front teeth, some teeth crowned and lots of huge filling in all my molars. My teeth are decaying and crumbling away through no fault of my own. I’m in constant pain daily as my teeth are extremely sensitive and my GP has to prescribe me painkillers. I have to very selective about what foods I eat. I also have to be extra fussy about cleaning my teeth and make sure I always floss.

After not seeing a dentist for nearly two years during lockdown my teeth are in a a terrible state, and I was crying on the phone to my GP last month that the pain and discomfort I was in as well as the psychological distress of how they look was making me feel suicidal. I have got my dentist to refer me to a dental hospital and I’m currently awaiting an appointment which could be a year away.

OP you need to try and find out if you have a recognised dental condition and get a referral to have work done in a hospital setting. Dental hospitals do much more complicated work the regular dentists.

My teeth really get me down so I know where you are coming from. I wish I didn't have to eat sometimes.

I find it hard to keep my teeth clean, it's only since the development of tepe brushes that I have made any inroads into keeping them clean and not being told off by the dentist and hygenist. Of course Tepes weren't around (as far as I knew) 30 years ago.

I have big fillings and an overbite that can't be fixed without an operation, I only found out about this in my 30s.
IF you were lucky in childhood with straight teeth, a good diet, access to quality toothbrushes that were regularly changed / toothpaste and a decent dentist and no other medical issues then you probably will have decent teeth into adulthood.
You are still young, please try every avenue to get this sorted, don't give up. Try your Dr, try different dentists, try a dental hospital. I think you have been treated dreadfully, you should not be in this situation. One dentist I saw years ago said she thought my overbite and asthma were related, perhaps if you got the teeth sorted the asthma might improve.
It's a lonely place to be when everyone around you seems to have perfect gnashers.
Good luck in getting it sorted.

I can't face dentists. They all are the same, dismissive, rude, insulting. I don't go.

One thing I have found is loads better than flossing is a water flosser. I'm not saying it will solve all your problems at all, but it might help to keep food from collecting in your teeth and I find it is more comfortable (if you use lukewarm water) and more effective.

I would also say that, for those of us with chronic dental issues- it's probably worth finding a way of funding private dentistry.
NHS dentistry is in a diabolical state (through no fault of the fantastic NHS dentists), and in my experience, if you have a complex case and want to restore your mouth (rather than lost more teeth), it's worth paying for a private dentist.
I'm not remotely well off (nhs nurse salary!) but have had to prioritise it, as I felt in danger of losing all my teeth!

• soft mouthguard, not duct! So many typos 🤦🏻‍♀️

@Rufus27 I must admit that I'm still on a journey to get my teeth sorted, but i'm in a better position than I was two years ago.
In 2020 I was simultaneously seeing my dentist and GP regularly, to try and get to the bottom of the facial pain I had daily. I tried medication for nerve pain (didn't work), and had numerous s and x-rays of my teeth looking for issues.
I saw three dentists, and was using a duct mouth guard that only made things worse.

I now have a fantastic dentist who truly understands the complexity of my case, and am also starting orthodontics to correct a malocclusion (poor bite) in March. I have a really good and carefully adjusted hard splint that I wear at night.

My GP also referred me to the Oral Surgery team at my local hospital, where I was given a formal diagnosis of TMJ and bruxism, and further x-rays completed, to ensure that the dentist hadn't missed a fractured tooth or similar. This was really reassuring, given how much money I had been spending on private dentistry (as he confirmed everything my dentist was saying). He has also referred me on to Maxillofacial team, for consideration of Botox injections.

My experience is that many dentists cannot offer much support in regard to bruxism, beyond offering a mouth guard. I don't mean that to sound in any way rude- all the dentists I've seen have been lovely and worked hard to help me, but there just doesn't seem to be much that they can offer, unless they have a specialist interest in these issues.

Sorry to hijack your thread OP

I have had most of mine out but not my front teeth (most of the back ones). Most of mine started crumbling when I was pregnant with Dd1, that’s when I had the first one out, I then had several others break off when I got pregnant again, had 8 removed in hospital as well as my wisdom teeth. I have 2 molars left, one of which is painful but I need it to eat with.

In a ideal world (if I had money) I would have the rest out and get dental implants.

I had issues with bleeding gums, chronic gum inflammation and the beginning of receding gums. Part of it was because I wasn’t flossing regularly, I had a couple of dental crowns and I wasn’t flossing or cleaning in between them as I should have been and as gross as it sounds I wasn’t regularly cleaning my teeth (e.g. when my children were tiny baby’s and I was so exhausted through lack of sleep I was forgetting to have lunch/ clean my teeth etc.). I’d wake up in the morning and if some food had got stuck between my teeth sometimes the gums were really inflamed. I realised I needed to get it sorted before it was too late so found a good dental practice and saw a brilliant dentist. I had the poorly fitted crowns replaced, and had a series of visits to the dental hygienist over a number of weeks. I started flossing 2-3 times a day. The dentist told me not to rinse after brushing but to rinse with a fluoride mouth rinse after every meal. I bought a water pink (a water flosser). For the first time in years the inflammation between the two crowned teeth completely disappeared. It was only then once ,y gums were healthy that the dentist was willing to replace the crowns.

From the sounds of it you need to have your gums cleaned OP but you need deep cleaning under the gum line. Once the decay gets really bad it goes below the gum line so no amount of brushing will help without specialist intervention. I think you need to see a better dentist if you can afford to do so.

My husband had this done 18 months ago & was life changing for him. All top teeth were removed

Here is something similar

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Can you change dentist.
I remember one having a go that my ds age then 5 must be eating sweets every day because he had damaged enamel on the front 2 teeth. I agrees yes he eats sweets but not regularly however ate a lot of fruit. She called me a liar!
I changed dentist. And they asked if he'd ever fallen And hit his mouth and I said yes. Itr was down some concrete steps and his teeth went through top lip. His gums were also scrazed and loads of blood. The new dentist said that's prob what caused a lot of the damage then the acid from the fruit had caused the erosion. And not to worry keep an eye when his adult teeth came through. Thankfully they're fine.
Is ch aging dentists an option?

A mouth guard is doing little to prevent my teeth literally disappearing and I’ve become really paranoid (hate smiling!). I feel too young for dentures (40s) but don’t know what else, or who else, to try.

My dentist isn’t helpful. He agrees it doesn’t look great, but any suggestion eg crowns, he says is not possible.

Don't wait around. NHS waiting list for sedation is currently 10 months long.

But yes DO IT! it's a new lease of life trust me. Good luck.

I had bad teeth genetically. And was given mass amounts of antibiotics as a very young child for chronic UTIs. My teeth, both baby and adult, came in a sickly grey color, and so thin that you could see the pulp of the tooth through the enamel. When my baby teeth fell out, there were only 27 adult teeth formed to come in, so my poor teeth drifted slooooowly around in my mouth. I don't even want to think about the cavities. The happiest day of my life was when I had finally told my dentist, "PULL THEM ALL!" and I got my dentures! It was the first time in my life that I had happily smiled in public. I was 55 years old. Don't wait. Do it. The key to happy denture wearing in finding the right adhesive. Explore different ones till you find the one that works best for you. I can now eat whole apples and gnaw corn off of the cob.

I know many people who have had a few teeth removed and rather than dentures, had replacements drilled into their gums. It sounds vile but the look amazing and very natural. One guy I know had all of his done years ago and they're still perfect. Had it done abroad. Let me know if you want details, the clinic is well known with lots of testimonials.

It sounds like your teeth are infected, a tooth infection can also cause the sinus pain/infections you are getting.

If you are in pain your dentist should be giving you an X-ray to find the cause of the problem.

Root canals can be expensive so you would like need teeth out. Not sure of the cost of dentures.

I’ve had unclear or confusing advice from dentists in the past and yours sounds poor.

You only need to brush twice a day as long as you are doing it thoroughly.

Use a fluoride toothpaste. Don’t rinse your mouth out after as that defeats the whole purpose. Make sure you get every part of your mouth by having a mental routine e.g front top right, front top, front top left, front back left and so on. At least once a day you need to use Tepe brushes (or non-brand alternative) to brush between your teeth ( I always struggled with dental floss these are so much better) Your gums will bleed at first, you need to keep doing it anyway. My most recent, better dentist explained that it is the bacteria causing the the gums to bleed and it goes away the cleaner your teeth get.

Use a paper straw to drink fruit juice or fizzy drinks (or reusable straw) try to avoid sugar in your tea.

Not sure about the inhaler? Presumably you have your mouth open when you pump it so unclear how much medication would get on your teeth.

Tooth infections won’t clear up on their own so you will need to find a better quality dentist ASAP or your situation with only get worse. You can do this through 101 by the way and they will book you in somewhere. Mention that the level of pain is so bad you are feeling suicidal.

If what I said sounds patronising it’s because tooth problems can actually become very serious (don’t know if you are a smoker but that can also make infection worse)

An infected tooth left untreated can become an abscessed tooth. My mother had a tooth abscess that began to block her airway and she ended up in an induced coma for five days,

It can be particularly dangerous when a tooth crumbles but part of it remains in the mouth.

If I were you I’d ring 101 first thing tomorrow and get an appointment with your local emergency dentist.

Have you seen a hygienist and been shown how to brush your teeth properly?

Sounds like you need to be referred or at least get a second opinion from another dentist. If you’re telling the truth it sounds like a deeper medical issue as you shouldn’t have this much of a problem if you’re brushing regularly

I have missing teeth an have thought about false teeth. For years, my excuse for not doing anything was that I couldn't afford implants. Then a uni dentist offered to do them free for me, but also told me it wouldn't be a good option for me because I'm not resistant to dental pain. So then I'm thinking of individual false teeth, but I can't really get over the idea of having to have them in a glass by the bed like my grandparents. :(