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to think GCSE targets of 9 is not right in year 7

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setingscats4 · 17/12/2021 09:15

My son has just had his targets issued in year 7 based on CATS4 testing. He has targets of 9. In previous years schools in our academy trust only ever gave targets of 8 even if kids achieved 120 in all their SATS exams.

It feels wrong to target children with 9s as they can never exceed their target especially with the amount of mental health issues in kids due to pandemic. Our school say they have no choice as it was decided by the trust and they have to follow it.

Targets matter in his school as they have them written in all their exercise books and every test is logged against the target plus each terms school report highlights the subject in red if you havent achieved your target.

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lanthanum · 17/12/2021 09:55

Totally agree. We weren't given the "minimum target grades" until year 10, but they've just been discouraging for DD, because they felt unattainable. Most teachers would not predict above an 8 in year 10, so her predicted grades fell short of her "minimum target grades". Meanwhile they keep going on about the target grades only being a minimum and aiming to do better.
I've asked the school to consider using 8+ instead (and 7+ would be sense in year 7).

setingscats4 · 17/12/2021 09:47

June - I totally agree he will be devastated if he doesnt achieve target and gets red on his school report.

I didnt send him to grammar school despite obviously high IQ because I wanted pressure free education after the horrendous last 2 years and knew with his personality he would want to excel and beat targets and now we have targets that cant be exceeded and potential worse mental health issues than at grammar.

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stingofthebutterfly · 17/12/2021 09:43

Our school has a range of targets (which I still feel is utter bollocks in year 7, but that's another story) so any of the higher achievers would get a target of 7-9. To just set 9 as a target is setting kids up for failure and a self esteem hit.

setingscats4 · 17/12/2021 09:43

I spoke to school and they said it is not their choice it is set by the academy trust for this year as no SATS. What would you do now go to head of trust?

Whatever happens my son has already seen his school report so he knows what the targets are as we opened it together. I was not concerned about opening it as i thought they couldnt give 9s based on previous years and knew effort would be fine.

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TeenMinusTests · 17/12/2021 09:36

Ridiculous. In y7 the most it should say is 7+.
Even in y11 I think targets of 9 is setting up to fail.

Dalalalada · 17/12/2021 09:33

I couldn't agree more.
What a load of head fuckery bollocks.

JuneOsborne · 17/12/2021 09:31

The most annoying things about it, is getting that red mark for not 'on target' for years to come.

My Ds was predicted all 8s (school had the same policy of never predicting a 9 no matter how well you did in the initial exams that determined the grades) and it was soul destroying for a few years for him as he was wasn't getting 8s in the assessments in years 7, 8 and 9.

He did come out with all 8s and 9s though, so they were pretty accurate. Which is annoying but also a relief once they have those certificates!

WhoopsWhatsMyNameAgain · 17/12/2021 09:29

I wholeheartedly agree with you.

Mental health amongst young people is at rock bottom. We've just come out the other side of a school-impacting pandemic. How is targeting a Yr7 with 9 helpful for anyone?

It's great that they're seeing his potential and aiming for that but I'm not sure it helps the child to have such a build up of pressure.

I went to a grammar school and many of us got As, Bs and Cs. These days it seems they all get the highest marks. What happened to being ok with good marks rather than outstanding?

I would push them on it. Write to the governors with your concerns. Link it back to any statements they make about mental health in their prospectus.

W00t · 17/12/2021 09:28

I agree, and we don't set 9s as targets ever in my school (because to get a 9, there's no fixed level of performance, it's the top 1.5% or whatever).

pointythings · 17/12/2021 09:28

It's completely counterproductive because it's based on bollocks data and it means that anything less than perfection means your DC ends up feeling they are underachieving. And that can be a self fulfilling prophecy.

Flight paths are notoriously inaccurate - children mature so much, they blossom at different ages, they develop unexpected talents as they go through secondary school. One rubbish teacher or one inspirational one can make a massive difference.

DaisyWaldron · 17/12/2021 09:24

If it's a decent school, they'll modify as the pupil goes along. DD got 120 in her English SATS, but English is her worst subject at GCSE and she's likely to get a 6.

Betsy200 · 17/12/2021 09:18

I would speak to the school. I had a similar situation in Year 7. I do question the validity of the flight path approach and also the pressure it puts on young people.

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