Do you remember Heather Mills?

EY, it's you that has repeatedly mentioned satanism, I'm not interested in things like that.
Heel, Paul and Linda had a huge row the night before their wedding. It was almost called off. Also Linda recorded tapes of interviews with a friend. Paul prevented them coming out by buying them. There are supposed to be things on them that Heather wanted to use to back up her case in the divorce

I don't think she is/was very nice and I think Paul was a fool to marry her.

I don't think Paul is a bad person / husband as he's been married three times and his other wives didn't seem to have an issue with him!

I don't like Stella though.

You’re right, this has nothing to do with Heather Mills. It has nothing to do with Satanism either, but you keep insisting it does.

I think this discussion is going in a very strange direction. It's not my thread, but I don't think turning it into a conspiracy theory about Satanism would be appreciated by the op(or anyone else)

Look, @LoveMySituation, you’re looking at this all wrong. The Church of Satan is a front for organised crime. You don’t actually think they believe in all that crap, do you? They recruit vulnerable people, using other vulnerable people.

Her parents gave him the money for the Norman Rockwell and Salvador Dali, you say?

Gave her the money more like.

I'm not religious, is it a religious thing to believe things like astrology, tarot etc as Satanic? As she mentions those, but l wouldn't think of those things as satanic. She's hardly Allister Crowley!

In fact, thinking about it, it’s obvious. She was working as a ‘travel agent’ (how convenient) and volunteering at the hospital where he had been sectioned (no doubt looking for a likely candidate).

She wrote his travel itinerary and sent him off in a westerly direction.

Dear God, they weren’t even subtle about it.

Here’s the interview with Gloria Chapman. She arranged his round the world trip, so I bet she was linked to the Church of Satan/Kenneth Anger:

legacy.cmalliance.org/alife/my-husband-shot-john-lennon/

Paul first spotted Heather when she gave a speech at a charity do, it's on video. She walked braless up to the lectern, Paul was hooked.

Gloria might be a Christian these days, but she was a satanist back then. She gave an interview for cmalliance.org, titled ‘My Husband Shot John Lennon’, where she described in great detail how she would pray to Satan.

I see the interview has been taken down, which doesn’t surprise me.

I agree also tomorrow, if you get that big and stay there, you are not 'nice' there's a core of steel somewhere. I think Paul's been pretty open about why he was first attracted to Heather and she was certainly aware that on their first alone meeting discussing her charity work, that he was ogling her bottom!

No, don't worry no confusion @ tomorrow. I was just trying to find out why EY thinks Chapman went round the world in a westerly direction, and why that links in with John doing the same thing. The book I mentioned showed that although everyone thinks Chapman was a 'deranged fan' of John Lennon, he wasn't (he was obsessed with Todd Rundgren and had a list of other celebs he was thinking of killing) and went into microscopic detail about everything(as befits a lawyer!) Few interesting theories too. That other books are now claiming as their own. But there are so many unanswered questions, why was he in Beirut? How did he know enough about guns to make sure the bullets would serve their purpose?
EY, Gloria is a Christian, there's no way she would be a satanist!

LoveMySituation, I hope I have not caused the confusion about who went on the westerly world trip. I misundersttod what EYProvider said and now she has clarified Yoko Ono arranged it for John Lennon, I know nothing about that. What myths did the authors explode? I truly never knew there were any myths, had always assumed Chapman was as I said a deluded obsessional who are so common and so dangerous when armed. I did go down a small rabbit hole to find out more the other night but remembered it was late so gave it up.

I know the business that is show has many,. many secrets and lies, some of them squalid and sordid to the nth degree so nothing can seem too far-fetched. I actually think all progammes, shows, music productions etc should come with a health warning - 'may be damaging to your mental health'. And I say that as someone who just sat through Strictly Come Dancing!

I meant to apologise for derailing the thread to those interested in the Mills/McCartney thing. Personally, I never took to Paul as a personality but then I am allergic to celebrities - you don't get to the top and cling on for decades by being 'nice'. And he was a mature man-of-the -world when he met her so must have been able to assess her personality and married her anyway.

@tomorrowalready

Chapman also went on a round the world trip in a westerly direction.

@LoveMySituation

His wife was his travel agent apparently. She was also a satanist - if you look her up on the internet, you’ll find she has given interviews confirming this.

I don’t think for a minute that Chapman was being manipulated by Yoko. There’s no way she would have got her hands dirty like that. I think it’s highly likely that Chapman had links to the Church of Satan.

I mean what evidence is there that he did it for woo reasons rather than convenience? Thirty years ago, I read a very well researched book written by a lawyer called Who killed John Lennon. It's out of print now, and the authors is dead. But it was brilliant. Exploded a few myths

Oh, I am sorry EYProvider I misunderstood, I thought you were saying Chapman had gone on the trip. Must admit I looked him (Chapman) up a bit and it did mention he had travelled in Vietnam etc so I was confused. So do you mean it was odd if John Lennon took a world trip when he was living in New York that he started from American West? I remember Lennon being shot as I lived in a bedsit at the time and only had a radio so listened all the time and remember the disbelief in reporter's voice as the news broke. If Chapman was being manipulated by Yoko Ono what was in it for him? He has been in prison ever since. It seems more likely he is another deluded obsessional with an unfortunate easy access to firearms as we see so much in the USA.

Where is the evidence that Chapman went round the world specifically in a westerly direction? As far as I know, he planned the trip with a travel agent who later became(and is still) his wife

Of course, she didn’t recommend they do the trip WITH John. Paul especially had to kept away from John at all costs. He had way too much influence.

@tomorrowalready

I have no idea what the logic was, but I suppose it was either the I Ching, the tarot cards or the crystal ball that convinced Yoko this was necessary. She sent John off on a westerly direction trip in the mid 70s and sent Paul and George Martin postcards trying to convince them to do the trip also.

EYProvider, I may regret asking this but what is the significance of mark Chapman doing a world trip in a westerly direction? You have menitioned it several times, is there an assumption it has some mystic (for want of a better word) rather than geographical convenience?

@SisterJude

You actually believe that?

Just think about it for 30 seconds. What are the odds that Chapman would be a satantist art collector who had been on a round the world trip in a westerly direction?

And that’s before you get to the part about the six bullets ‘for John Lennon’ and Kenneth’s Anger’s appearance at the crime scene the day after it happened.

This isn’t a conspiracy theory; these are facts. My interpretation of them might be a conspiracy theory, but even a cursory examination of the facts would make most people suspicious.

@YokoOnosHat

@TomPinch I and others have talked about their child Beatrice. Beatrice lived with Heather. Yes it was a tight divorce settlement and related to 0.25% of McCartneys wealth. He could have been generous to his daughter and it would have had zero impact on his own standard of living.