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Do you remember Heather Mills?

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LucilleBluth · 28/11/2021 18:52

I have been watching the Beatles documentary and got to thinking about her.

She was in the papers constantly in the 2000s, I remember her being painted as an absolute con artist witch. I googled a few articles about her from the time of the divorce. They are brutal in the misogynistic tone, she’s labelled as a slag, a goer, ex prostitute, you name it.

I don’t think papers write about women in such hash terms anymore. Maybe she was a bit of a twat, whoever married Saint Paul would have suffered at that time I think.

I suppose by AIBU is are the press less misogynistic.

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Alwayscheerful · 07/12/2021 17:03

@Georgeskitchen

Strangely enough I was thinking about her last week!! When she first came to attention after the accident in which she lost her leg, the media heaped her with praise for showing people that losing a limb is not the end of the world. She was highly respected and always invited to speak on TV shows etc. She was portrayed as an inspiration. Then she married Paul McCartney......the media turned on her in the most vile and disgusting way. It must have been awful for her. I wonder where she is now and how she is getting on x
Set to marry article.
Do you remember Heather Mills?
LoveMySituation · 07/12/2021 16:58

That Fred Seaman book was one of the first books I read, quite randomly. It wasn't written until John had died. And considering what he also says on the tape, he might not want that to be known about by the public

EYProvider · 07/12/2021 16:54

@LoveMySituation

Right, because clearly he never intended the audio tapes or the diaries to be heard by the public, even though his personal assistant had majored in journalism, was writing a book and he knew it.

LoveMySituation · 07/12/2021 16:44

You can hear him talk about taking Sean to Edinburgh on his audio diary. It's on YouTube (he talks about other(sensitive) things too, I feel like I shouldn't be listening to it) so if it's a 'yarn' he's lying to himself

EYProvider · 07/12/2021 16:27

@LookslovelyinSpringtime
@LoveMySituation

Could be!

LookslovelyinSpringtime · 07/12/2021 16:15

@LoveMySituation

He'd been doing that since the Jann Wenner 1970 interview, so I wouldn't be seeing that as a sign he was getting ready to be murdered. Also John had big plans for 1981, he was going to take Sean to Edinburgh, and sail the QE2 up the River Mersey, and was really looking forward to being in England again, and seeing Mimi, hardly the actions of someone expecting to be bumped off by his wife(even if as I think, they were heading for divorce)
Yes exactly.
EYProvider · 07/12/2021 16:08

Do you not think that all sounds a bit unlikely, @LoveMySituation? Like he was - you know - spinning a yarn.

John liked to say that Paul was the best PR man in the business, but really that was him. He was a genius at selling his own image.

Georgeskitchen · 07/12/2021 16:00

Strangely enough I was thinking about her last week!! When she first came to attention after the accident in which she lost her leg, the media heaped her with praise for showing people that losing a limb is not the end of the world. She was highly respected and always invited to speak on TV shows etc. She was portrayed as an inspiration.
Then she married Paul McCartney......the media turned on her in the most vile and disgusting way. It must have been awful for her. I wonder where she is now and how she is getting on x

LoveMySituation · 07/12/2021 14:53

He'd been doing that since the Jann Wenner 1970 interview, so I wouldn't be seeing that as a sign he was getting ready to be murdered. Also John had big plans for 1981, he was going to take Sean to Edinburgh, and sail the QE2 up the River Mersey, and was really looking forward to being in England again, and seeing Mimi, hardly the actions of someone expecting to be bumped off by his wife(even if as I think, they were heading for divorce)

EYProvider · 06/12/2021 21:38

Yes, he also said life begins at 40 and rammed the Ballard of John and Yoko as star-crossed lovers down the public’s throat lest we forget how it was written in the stars.

All of which was utter horseshit as they were essentially living separate lives by then. But had they both been tragically killed (as I would bet a million quid - if I had it - was the script he was reading from), it would have been so much more fitting. Double fantasy indeed.

By the way, he also used those interviews to set the record straight on who wrote what - putting his affairs in order so to speak.

LoveMySituation · 06/12/2021 21:21

Because in his very last interview he said he hoped it would be a long time until he's dead

PinkyPromises · 06/12/2021 19:41

I'm so lost! Will go back and catch up.

EYProvider · 06/12/2021 18:35

@PinkyPromises

Who’s to say it wasn’t John’s idea?

PinkyPromises · 06/12/2021 17:57

Hold on what? Heather Mills has done what? Worked out that Yoko was responsible for John Lennon's death? Did I read that right?

LucilleBluth · 06/12/2021 17:03

OP here. I’ve been checking in with this thread every few days. It’s taken a turn but I do love a conspiracy theory 😀

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EYProvider · 06/12/2021 16:46

@Hodl

Chapman admitted that he did it, so none of this was ever closely examined. The police had started to look at Yoko, but Chapman pleaded guilty so they closed the case.

I mean, I’m sure plenty of other people have put it together. Heather Mills for one, Goldman definitely, which is why he was dragged through the mud, despite that he interviewed nearly 2000 people.

But it would destroy Yoko, destroy Sean, destroy John’s legacy. He got what he wanted, which was to be remembered as the most legendary rock star in the history of all time - bigger than Elvis, bigger than Jesus and most importantly, bigger than Paul.

Hodl · 06/12/2021 16:01

This is fascinating stuff! Particularly about Lennon and his murder, I didn't know hardly anything about Chapman until now.

EYProvider · 06/12/2021 15:36

Which bit of it is factually incorrect then, @TheBoots?

Shall we start with Sam Green?

TheBoots · 06/12/2021 14:56

I genuinely have no opinion on Yoko one way or the other and know very little about her. But I do know wild conspiracy theorists when I encounter them.

EYProvider · 06/12/2021 14:27

I mean, don’t get me wrong; I understand why Yoko is held up as a feminist icon by the brainwashed ‘radicals’ who think she is a hero. She practically invented identity politics after all.

I just don’t think it’s intelligent to accept what you’re told when the official narrative clearly doesn’t add up.

EYProvider · 06/12/2021 14:20

You can laugh as much as you like, @TheBoots. It won’t change the facts. It might obfuscate and obscure them, which I suppose is the point of your little sneery icon. You’re a Yoko fan, I take it?

julieca · 06/12/2021 13:57

@theboots that was just after the divorce was finalised, so yes she had £24 million at that stage.

TheBoots · 06/12/2021 13:43

My god is this still going on??!

Re. Heather and Bea taking holidays, she clearly had enough to fly her and Bea to LA in Club class (and a member of security in Economy) in 2008. That's not cheap...

@EYProvider That's in a Westerly direction!! Perhaps Yoko is after them too? Grin

EYProvider · 06/12/2021 12:28

The westerly direction stuff was evidently based on the ‘katu-tugai’, which combined numerology with cartography. It was supposed to bring good luck.

Sparklingbrook · 06/12/2021 12:19

Well clearly not @julieca because you seem to be still. Grin