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Do you remember Heather Mills?

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LucilleBluth · 28/11/2021 18:52

I have been watching the Beatles documentary and got to thinking about her.

She was in the papers constantly in the 2000s, I remember her being painted as an absolute con artist witch. I googled a few articles about her from the time of the divorce. They are brutal in the misogynistic tone, she’s labelled as a slag, a goer, ex prostitute, you name it.

I don’t think papers write about women in such hash terms anymore. Maybe she was a bit of a twat, whoever married Saint Paul would have suffered at that time I think.

I suppose by AIBU is are the press less misogynistic.

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julieca · 28/11/2021 21:44

@TheElvishQueen

PM needs to fly first class because of his level of fame. His child does not. Just because she’s his child she needs to be in first class all her life? If she was flying with him maybe. Not if she’s flying with her mother .
Yeah thats just nasty of him. Seriously I don't think much of him as a result.
julieca · 28/11/2021 21:41

@TheElvishQueen 5-year-olds don't know. 9 or 10-year-olds certainly do know and know the difference.
When your dad is billionaire then you would expect to live differently to your average child and teenager. The divorce settlement was a disgrace.

TheElvishQueen · 28/11/2021 21:34

[quote NdujaWannaDance]I still want to know.. is Beatrice now a boy?

www.pressreader.com/uk/scottish-daily-mail/20170508/281629600181714[/quote]
Beatrice was 13 then though. That’s some time ago.

TheElvishQueen · 28/11/2021 21:31

Most children don’t care if they’re flying first class or not. I’ve never travelled first class myself. I don’t consider it a terrible hardship.

Are you saying all parents should ensure that their children have the same things they have ? Adults work for these things themselves, they are not a right that their children are entitled to . If a parent owned three houses, do their children have a right to three house each too?

Do adult children have a right to all that their parents have accrued through hard work? No.

NdujaWannaDance · 28/11/2021 21:29

I still want to know.. is Beatrice now a boy?

www.pressreader.com/uk/scottish-daily-mail/20170508/281629600181714

Classica · 28/11/2021 21:28

And if her mother wanted Beatrice to fly first class when holidaying with her, her wealth would easily cover that.

Classica · 28/11/2021 21:26

I'm sure she holidayed with her father post-her parents divorce and no doubt that involved first class flights.

MissLucyEyelesbarrow · 28/11/2021 21:23

@TheElvishQueen

PM needs to fly first class because of his level of fame. His child does not. Just because she’s his child she needs to be in first class all her life? If she was flying with him maybe. Not if she’s flying with her mother .
Nobody needs to be in 1st class, even celebs. But most parents want their kids - while they are actually children, at least - to enjoy the same standard of living as them.

It's sad that PM didn't want that for Beatrice, especially as it would have meant no hardship for him whatsoever.

TheElvishQueen · 28/11/2021 21:17

PM needs to fly first class because of his level of fame. His child does not. Just because she’s his child she needs to be in first class all her life? If she was flying with him maybe. Not if she’s flying with her mother .

SingingSands · 28/11/2021 21:16

DH had some involvement with her, through his profession, and said she was awful. He said her sense of entitlement was staggering and the way she spoke to people such as assistants, was just plain rude.

MissLucyEyelesbarrow · 28/11/2021 21:15

@KissedintheDark

I can't understand how a man rich beyond avarice wouldn't want the mother of his young child to live in the lap of luxury too and give a generous private settlement and not drag his ex through the courts.
I agree. It's not that it's a hardship to have to fly economy - obviously. It's the fact that a child's father is happy for his DD to have a much lower standard of living than him.

All these things are relative. Everyone in this country has a better standard of living than millions of people in developing countries but, if we divorce a man with a good income, we don't think, "I'm happy for the DC to be scraping by, even though their dad's loaded, because they're better off than kids in Afghanistan".

If I had been married to PM or some other billionaire, and he was fighting in court to minimise child maintainence, I would be sad for my child, and what that said about her father's attitude to her. HM may BU about many things, but I don't think she was BU about that.

TheElvishQueen · 28/11/2021 21:01

I still want to know.. is Beatrice now a boy?

yorkshiremum2022 · 28/11/2021 21:00

Yes, our neighbour works for her. She owns a Vegan food company now and spends a lot of time focusing on that. I think it's called V Bites.

HelloDulling · 28/11/2021 20:54

@KissedintheDark

I can't understand how a man rich beyond avarice wouldn't want the mother of his young child to live in the lap of luxury too and give a generous private settlement and not drag his ex through the courts.
She was awarded over £26m after fewer than 4 years of marriage!
GotToGoBye · 28/11/2021 20:43

@NdujaWannaDance

amp.theguardian.com/media/2006/jun/13/newsoftheworld.pressandpublishing

I remember this

Onlinedilema · 28/11/2021 20:41

I was thinking about her too, after are seeing a programme about Paul McCartney.
Theories were vile about her. Aren't that's also horrible towards Linda too to begin with? And Yoko Ono.
I don't read newspapers. The whole misogynist attitude makes me sick.
I don't have an opinion either way.
I really dislike the term 'Toy Boy'. A much younger woman is never referred to as a 'Toy Girl' is she?

TheElvishQueen · 28/11/2021 20:36

@YouokHun

My DSis had a child in the same school and year as Ben (formally Beatrice). When the cameras were off, on a day to day level, HM was pretty horrible to people. Other parents were required to behave in a certain deferential way to her. But not PMcC, he always pleasant and a cheery hello and no silly behaviour. I know you can’t tell someone’s entire character from day to day small interactions but it is somewhat telling. It doesn’t make the attitude of the media OK but her attitude to [the little] people is what started to get her the bad press because once you’ve pissed enough people off they will, rightly or wrongly, pass things on to the media.
Is Beatrice now a boy then ??
Confiscatedpopit · 28/11/2021 20:34

Meghan Markle seems the new version of her to be honest- in every single way.

ArblemarchTFruitbat · 28/11/2021 20:33

NdujaWannaDance. Take your pick from the usual suspects .....

www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1302966/Maccas-meltdown-The-inside-story-marriage-cost-McCartney-24m-destroyed-him.html

NdujaWannaDance · 28/11/2021 20:30

she’s labelled as a slag, a goer, ex prostitute

Actual newspapers said all this? Do you have any links for that?

GetInThereLewis · 28/11/2021 20:26

[quote gukvguk]Here you are.
As a vegan I love her!

www.vbites.com/about/[/quote]
I love that brand,didn't realise it was HM. I struggle to dislike anyone who is vegan.

RedWingBoots · 28/11/2021 20:25

@KissedintheDark

I can't understand how a man rich beyond avarice wouldn't want the mother of his young child to live in the lap of luxury too and give a generous private settlement and not drag his ex through the courts.
Because he thought she was a gold digger.

Remember she was following a saintly first wife.

The Wikipedia article on her is interesting but it's good to know she has manners.

YNK · 28/11/2021 20:12

@Aderyn21

The press said a lot about her which was horribly misogynistic. PM has a lot of influence and iirc did very little in the way of public condemnation of it. I judged him for that because they had a baby and letting people speak in such a way about your child's mum, when you could maybe help put a stop to it, isn't a good thing to do.
Yes, regardless of her character or their failed relationship, I judged him for not putting a stop to the press persecution. I cannot help but think he revelled in it and likely was fueling the misogyny.
KissedintheDark · 28/11/2021 20:10

I can't understand how a man rich beyond avarice wouldn't
want the mother of his young child to live in the lap of luxury too and
give a generous private settlement and not drag his ex through the courts.

Honeyroar · 28/11/2021 20:06

@RubyTuesday70

She came across as a walking ego when she did dancing on ice.
When I spoke to her about The Jump (winter sports celebrity thing) she said she was a highly competitive person.
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