Do you remember Heather Mills?

Paul and his family lived on a large farm in Kintyre with staff. Yes, it wasn't a luxury Los Angeles mansion, but it wasn't a small workers cottage on a scrap of land either.

"The 7,360-acre Carskiey Estate forms the Mull of Kintyre, which former resident McCartney sang about with Wings in the 1977 hit song.

Now the estate, which includes the Edwardian Carskiey House and nine miles of coastline, has gone on the market.

Estate agents Strutt & Parker are selling the property for offers over £2.95m."

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-11510428

The 9 bedroom house. www.carskiey.com/carskiey-house/

He isn’t tight, and his kids adore him. That speaks volumes to me.

You obviously know nothing about his relationship with John, julieca. I watched that TV clip the night it happened. A reporter shoved a camera in his face and asked him what he thought about the murder of his creative partner, his best friend since he was 15, his musical soulmate. The reporter wanted him to break down on camera for everyone’s entertainment and he wouldn’t do it. It was about as appropriate as someone shoving a camera in Yoko’s face - exactly the same in fact. He was broken and in shock, and you cannot judge him for how he reacted in that moment. It’s beyond cruel.

@EYProvider Except Paul was not the resident parent. So it really just comes across as him being tight.

Paul sent his kids to state schools, julieca. He wanted them to be able to relate to other people, not exist in a gilded cage. In his divorce testimony, he made it clear that he wanted that for Beatrice as well, but her mother had other ideas.

It’s not about ‘lifestyle’, it’s about values. Paul’s a billionaire, his kids were always going to enjoy enormous privilege. But he wanted them to live in the real world, to be able to speak to the postman without looking down on him. I find that admirable, but perhaps it’s a generational thing?

When John died, Paul was cornered by the press, and asked for a comment. He rather clumsily replied "Drag, isn't it? Okay, cheers, buy-bye".
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_John_Lennon#Lennon's_associates

He made a separate deal regarding Beatles royalties. He earned a higher royalty rate on Beatles records than George, Ringo or John , www.rollingstone.com/music/features/beatles-to-sue-paul-19850228#ixzz3wwDxssIs, resulting in a law suit by the other two and Yoko.

I think he is a misogynist and not a nice person.
www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-413217/McCartney-marriage-tapes-exclusive--Linda-wanted-leave-Macca.html

www.beatlesbible.com/1968/07/20/jane-asher-announces-her-split-from-paul-mccartney/

@Mouseonmychair I expect my parents, including my dad, to fund the same level of lifestyle for me as a child, that he has.
I don't agree that its fine for a divorced father to be a billionaire, and expect his child to live a far less lavish life than he does.

I love reading
About people’s thoughts on paul and John.

I have just watched the Star Stories clip on YouTube. I'd forgotten just how hilarious they were.

That's said I blame Paul for getting married. He knows the rules in the UK. I doubt he needed marriage.

[quote julieca]@TheElvishQueen 5-year-olds don't know. 9 or 10-year-olds certainly do know and know the difference.
When your dad is billionaire then you would expect to live differently to your average child and teenager. The divorce settlement was a disgrace.[/quote]
It was a disgrace 24 million for four years of marriage shows what a terrible deal the most successful people in a relationship get in divorce. Marriage really is a mugs game for successful people. I was always shocked by heather. She seemed out to me for what she could get from that marriage and Bea didn't need to fly first class, I certainly don't expect to live the lifestyle of my parents just because they can afford it.

I think they had a very complex relationship, as most creative partners do. I also think there is no doubt that John was in love with Paul. He was besotted with him until his dying day. And it’s not just Yoko who has said so, Harry Nilsson pretty much spelt it out.

I do agree they bonded over the deaths of their mothers, but it was obviously more than that. Paul has done a good job of pretending to be ordinary through the years. Of course, he’s far from ordinary, and so was John; the miracle was that they found each other and saw themselves reflected back. In some ways, they were the same person, even though in other ways they were the opposite.

Not much point starting a conversation about the Beatles on Mumsnet. Too many people think they are overrated, except for George, who has some street cred among the enlightened.

@HazelBite - Ohhh!!!!! Did you see the water chuck?!!

Does make me wonder why some famous people cannot work out the "gold diggers" from the real MA coy.

Heather Mills had no manners and a very inflated opinion of herself and full of a sense of entitlement.
I will just say I used to work in the Court Service................

I don’t agree that John was in love with Paul at all. I think the two of them formed a very close enmeshed bond. They grew up together. They knew each other inside out, and had been through many formative experiences . Paul met John when he was grieving for his mother, and the relationship they had probably replaced a need he had at that time. It’s possible he didn’t grieve properly and so when he lost John those issues came to the forefront.
One of them had to break the spell. John found his needs were met by Yoko who was a substitute mother figure in some respects. They both had a mother wound .
It was a terrible rending thing for Paul to lose John. He lost so much. On top of the loss of his friendship was the loss of the creative partnership which he knew could never be replaced. John had outgrown the Beatles and needed something else.
I find it reduces the complexity of their relationship down when people claim there was a sexual element. I don’t believe that was the case at all. A deep attachment like that transcends sexual attraction and can often be more powerful.

I agree with the rest of your post though. I’ve been fascinated by the Beatles since I was 14. I found the documentary riveting although it was very long. I thought about starting a thread on it but assumed no one would be interested.

She seemed like the brains of the couple — he was amiably dopey to talk to.

Dope being the operative if what I've heard is true.

I never thought Heather or Paul came across brilliantly in the press, but we all know that the media love to tell their own narrative.

Regardless of how nice or not Heather might be (who knows?), you can't argue that she's done an awful lot for amputees abroad - people never really talk about that. Her charitable work has been substantial and deserves more recognition.

A lot of people when faced with a life-changing injury through no fault of their own would have reacted in a far less positive way. She's helped a lot of people.

My DD, through her job at the time, used to meet Paul McCartney quite a lot. It was because she worked for a close member of his family.

I remember her texting me from the Hamptons, to say she was having coffee with Paul. Just prior to her texting me, I texted her about my new handbag and that got more reaction from her about my new handbag despite me saying "get a photo!!"

It’s the most fascinating story in the world. Biblical from start to end.

You read comments on here from people who think it’s clever to say the Beatles are overrated. They don’t know the first thing about them obviously.

The break up of the Beatles was really the break up of John and Paul, and it’s now pretty much accepted by the mainstream that John was in love with Paul. It only makes sense when you examine it in that context.

You could be right. I find it all fascinating.

And yes, there is no doubt, he was the powerhouse of the Beatles, even though John was also a genius. Together they were a miracle - astonishing.

Yes, but this was the start of his breakdown, Elvish.

You know, with any artist, you’re going to find the truth buried in the art they’re producing. The stuff he was he was writing - ‘I‘ll never do you no harm’, ‘I’ll never let you down’, ‘The wild and windy night that the tears washed away’ - he was pleading with John not to leave him and he wasn’t even being subtle about it.

Meanwhile, John wanted a reaction from him, but he ended up overplaying his hand and losing him.

I meant when he and Linda moved to Scotland.