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Do you remember Heather Mills?

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LucilleBluth · 28/11/2021 18:52

I have been watching the Beatles documentary and got to thinking about her.

She was in the papers constantly in the 2000s, I remember her being painted as an absolute con artist witch. I googled a few articles about her from the time of the divorce. They are brutal in the misogynistic tone, she’s labelled as a slag, a goer, ex prostitute, you name it.

I don’t think papers write about women in such hash terms anymore. Maybe she was a bit of a twat, whoever married Saint Paul would have suffered at that time I think.

I suppose by AIBU is are the press less misogynistic.

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TheElvishQueen · 30/11/2021 22:54

You seriously think he knew his wife was plotting to kill him? Really? On what evidence?

EYProvider · 30/11/2021 22:52

How much do you actually know about John Lennon, Elvish?

If you know as much as you say you do, you know that he was obsessed with (1) the idea that he was the reincarnation of Jesus Christ and (2) that he was going to be assassinated.

Of course, he could have vetoed anything she put in the will. The point is, HE KNEW.

amiafreakofnature · 30/11/2021 22:48

I immediately started singing 'what have you done today to make you feeeeeell proud' when I read the title
Urghh bed for me I think

TheElvishQueen · 30/11/2021 22:47

Vetoe anything she put in it.

TheElvishQueen · 30/11/2021 22:46

If John allowed her to write the will , he had the right to vetoed anything he put it in it. So it was down to his judgement. I don’t agree that was incapable by that point. He may have been very unwise to trust her, but that’s a common story. In any case, everything went to her, and that’s what he intended.
My point is that POA does not confer total control. It is there in case the person concerned is incapacitated, which he was not. He trusted her and she got all his money. That’s what he wanted. She may have been a schemer, who knows. I don’t believe she or Sam Green has anything to do with his death. I think if Paul had suspected anything like that he would not be on good terms with her now.

EYProvider · 30/11/2021 22:37

There’s no point in us having this conversation, @TheElvishQueen. You’re selective about the information you’re willing to absorb, and you’re pretending not to understand the point I’m making. And I know you do because I’m spelling it out.

YOKO WROTE THE WILL. Her gave her power of attorney over his image, his money and his life. He was the most famous man on the planet and a billionaire, so no, it’s not comparable with you having a power of attorney for your mother.

She was having an affair with a hustler called Sam Green. Sam Green had been implicated in the high profile murder of a billionaire heiress.

She put Sam Green in John’s will, which she had drawn up a year before he was murdered by a part time security guard who financed the trip from Hawaii to New York by selling a fucking Norman Rockwell painting. There’s more, but it’s probably not the place, which is a shame because it’s a lot more interesting than the size of Paul McCartney’s Scottish estate.

TheElvishQueen · 30/11/2021 22:24

If I understand you, you’re inferring that John was killed by an assassin paid for by his wife and her lover? Is that it?

TheElvishQueen · 30/11/2021 22:20

[quote EYProvider]I assume you don’t have John Lennon’s billions, Elvish? Anyway, here you go:

www.probatelawyerblog.com/2014/09/celebrity-legacies-yoko-and-julian-battled-over-john-lennons-estate.html[/quote]
I knew all this. Most people do. Yoko was left his estate and managed his interests after his death. We all know that Julian was not treated fairly.
You seem to be insinuating that Yoko wrote that will and cheated somehow. Of course he left his estate to his wife. Most people leave their estates to their partners. Julian was not treated fairly but it was John’s will. Despite what you might think there is no way she would have forged his will .

EYProvider · 30/11/2021 22:08

Well let’s hope Heather herself pops in, @Sparklingbrook, because I’m absolutely sure that this is the story she has locked away in her little box evidence. You know, the big secret that the world couldn’t handle because it’s just too sad.

Sparklingbrook · 30/11/2021 22:00

Sounds like a whole other thread TBH. But not sure how MNHQ would work out fact from fiction.

EYProvider · 30/11/2021 21:58

With any luck, it might get picked up by the Daily Mail, @Sparklingbrook.

People might finally start asking some questions about what the hell happened to John. Who knew what and when, and I include John himself in that.

Sparklingbrook · 30/11/2021 21:57

Heather will be furious that she is no longer the centre of attention on the thread surely.

YokoOnosHat · 30/11/2021 21:56

@Sparklingbrook

This thread.You get asked if you remember Heather Mills then two days later you’re being told to read John Lennon’s will. Grin
Yes, we have rather gone off topic. I did follow the link to it though 😂
Sparklingbrook · 30/11/2021 21:50

This thread.You get asked if you remember Heather Mills then two days later you’re being told to read John Lennon’s will. Grin

EYProvider · 30/11/2021 21:49

And if we’re going down that rabbit hole, I’d also like to know where Mark David Chapman - a fucking part time security guard - got the money to buy a NORMAN ROCKWELL PAINTING.

EightWheelGirl · 30/11/2021 21:46

I'm not sure she has a leg to stand on with ridiculous claims like not knowing who he was. Clearly bullshit IMO.

EYProvider · 30/11/2021 21:45

Do you work for the Estate, @LizzieSiddal?

What’s up? Frightened that someone might put 2 and 2 together about Sam Green, Yoko and John’s will?

beguilingeyes · 30/11/2021 21:43

I remember when they got together she claimed that she didn't know who he was when they got together ?!?!?!?
That rang alarm bells straight away.

LizzieSiddal · 30/11/2021 21:31

EYProvider

Why don’t you look it up, Elvish? John Green, Yoko’s tarot card reader talks about the power of attorney extensively in his book

So you have based your knowledge of Power Of Attornies from a Tarot Card Reader? That explains a lot. Grin

prawntoastie · 30/11/2021 21:16

When I read the thread I remember the name but couldn’t remember why

EYProvider · 30/11/2021 21:15

I assume you don’t have John Lennon’s billions, Elvish? Anyway, here you go:

www.probatelawyerblog.com/2014/09/celebrity-legacies-yoko-and-julian-battled-over-john-lennons-estate.html

julieca · 30/11/2021 21:04

I have POA for my DH. It is sensible. I still have to go to court to get it ratified if he was say knocked down and in a coma. Its really no more of an issue than having made a will.

TheElvishQueen · 30/11/2021 21:00

@LizzieSiddal

Look up the will - it’s on the internet. There might even be a paragraph in that that refers to her having power of attorney. She definitely did.

You really don't know what you’re talking about. In the US and UK, millions of adults, including husbands and wives, have documents in place to have power of Attorney over each other. As a PP said it can only come into action if a Dr verified the person has no mental capacity to organise their affairs, and then you have to go to court for them to ok you taking over their affairs. Show me the document where it says John Lennon was mentally incapacitated so much that his wife was able to get the Power Of Attorney actioned.

I personally have POA for my DH, my BIL, my mum and my PIL. However NONE of them are in action as they are all healthy and have mental capacity.

Yes this is what I keep saying. Thank you.
LizzieSiddal · 30/11/2021 20:51

Look up the will - it’s on the internet. There might even be a paragraph in that that refers to her having power of attorney. She definitely did.

You really don't know what you’re talking about. In the US and UK, millions of adults, including husbands and wives, have documents in place to have power of Attorney over each other. As a PP said it can only come into action if a Dr verified the person has no mental capacity to organise their affairs, and then you have to go to court for them to ok you taking over their affairs. Show me the document where it says John Lennon was mentally incapacitated so much that his wife was able to get the Power Of Attorney actioned.

I personally have POA for my DH, my BIL, my mum and my PIL. However NONE of them are in action as they are all healthy and have mental capacity.

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