Do you remember Heather Mills?

I would start a thread, but I don’t have the energy to deal with all the John Lennon was a wife beater and Yoko is a hero shit. I just can’t be bothered with all that irrelevance.

Which bit am I overthinking?

I have read what you've written, EYP but I think you are over-thinking it.

Well then you haven’t read what I wrote, @ArblemarchTFruitbat.

Anyone as famous as John Lennon was, is going to be a target for assassins - I don't think there is any mystery about it.

Thanks, @cosmopolitanplease. I think it’s interesting too, and I don’t see why it’s a topic better placed on Reddit. What does that even mean? That it’s too stupid for MN? Too boring? Compared with what - stories about ‘toxic’ mother in laws?

Well I for one have enjoyed the derail and would appreciate a separate thread about John and Yoko, it all fascinates me.

Re the poster who complained there was blackface in that (hilarious) Star Stories link; I'm pretty sure it's a black actor to begin with. Kobna Holbrook-Smith was one of the cast.

Well, I suppose I could start a thread called ‘100 things that don’t add up about the murder of John Lennon’, and I suppose it might get interest from everyone who does remember it as a defining event, but I don’t know the protocol for doing that or even if MN would allow it. The Estate is very litigious.

I don't think there's much more to say about HM, so the thread will now drop out of active to possibly be revived as a zombie thread at some point.

To be fair, it was one of the defining events of the 20th century, never mind the 80s.

But anyway - what more is there to say about Heather Mills? She went after a very rich man who could give her a very big divorce settlement. Yes, she got her fingers burnt in the process, but she must have known from the start that would happen - he’s one of the most famous men on the planet. She decided it was worth it, and so what? The press went after her, but the payoff was 24 million - I bet she has no regrets.

I don't remember where I was when JL was shot, so it's not the thing that everyone remembers.
People will probably have other 80s defining moments that mean more to them.

Well, I get that it might not be the right thread, but you didn’t know that people had strong feelings about John Lennon’s murder? Really?

It was the defining event of the 1980s. It’s the thing everyone remembers - where they were and what they were doing the exact moment they heard that John Lennon had been shot. I know he’s been ‘cancelled’ by the enlightened minority (I bet she was behind that as well - sorry, Yoko, only joking), but come on.

A minor clarification before the discussion turns back to HM - the PP’s arguing about the scope of power of attorneys are both right as there are TWO types of LPA (at least in the U.K. )

One is for medical and healthcare - which only comes into force when a person is declared incapacitated:

Health and welfare lasting power of attorney
Use this LPA to give an attorney the power to make decisions about things like:

*your daily routine, for example washing, dressing, eating
medical care
moving into a care home
life-sustaining treatment
It can only be used when you’re unable to make your own decisions.

And one for financial help. -which can be effected ay any time.

Property and financial affairs lasting power of attorney
Use this LPA to give an attorney the power to make decisions about money and property for you, for example:

managing a bank or building society account
paying bills
collecting benefits or a pension
selling your home
It can be used as soon as it’s registered, with your permission.

I had a financial LPA for my dad to help him with his finances, buying/selling houses, managing investments, online banking and shopping etc and he certainly wasn’t incapacitated, just computer illiterate!
I could have rewritten his will if I had wanted to, but if it was questioned I would have had to prove that I acted in his interests or that I was continuing to act in a way that he had demonstrated he agreed with.
For example, if he was NC with a child for many years and hadn’t provided any financial support, gifts etc, I might argue that these actions led me to believe that he would have cut them out of his will - ie it was ok for me to do it as I was enacting his wishes which his precedent had established. If he was dead or incapacitated by the time the change was discovered - no one could argue otherwise.
The child would have to take me to court and prove his parent wouldn’t have wanted his will to be changed, but there would be nothing stopping me from doing it in the first place. By signing the LPA he handed over control of his financial situation to me 🤷🏼‍♀️

www.gov.uk/power-of-attorney

Sorry folks.
Will draw a line now.

Is it worth having a different thread to fight discuss John and Yoko?

Yes, I met her pre McCartney & losing her leg, so she was young, but definitely a mercenary gold digger even back then & she was shocked I wasn't. Friendly enough though, but even so young, very full of herself

Well this took a turn...

Well, it depends how you look at it. On the one hand, you could call it a brutal murder or a sacrifice (remember where it happened). On the other, you could think of it as the greatest art happening in history - the one thing guaranteed to turn John Lennon into the most legendary rock of star of all time and the ultimate act of one upmanship over Paul.

Is that what you are referring to?

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.express.co.uk/entertainment/music/1221729/John-Lennon-Jesus-Christ-Second-Coming-The-Beatles-LSD-Ringo-Starr-Paul-McCartney/amp