Do you remember Heather Mills?

Planned by whom? Himself? Why would he plan his own death?

@LoveMySituation

You know that John told Jack Douglas the night it happened that he wouldn’t be seeing him again?

He knew. It was planned. And it came off exactly as he’d hoped.

Totally confused by that post. Who couldn’t record together? John and Yoko? How do you know he continued to sleep with May?
Please send me a PM with a link to the interview!

@TheElvishQueen John and Yoko may have stayed together, but he continued to see and sleep with May until 1980. The producer of Double fantasy Jack Douglas wouldn't let them record in the same room together, as they were too competitive. There is a very interesting interview(which I'm too nervous to post on here, but is easily found) that is very enlightening. Although he did end up suing Yoko for unpaid royalties..

No offence taken @EYProvider I am not trying to close anything down, or think discussing the Beatles is beneath me, nor do I work for any 'Estate'. Lol. The laughing face was because a new person had joined the thread and said they were going to read it so it was a tongue in cheek warning it's not about Heather at all in parts.

Anyway I didn't realise we were back to Paul McCartney I thought it was John Lennon, it's been a strange old thread.

I have no opinion re JL and was probably first aware of PM in the Wings days or the Frog Chorus or whatever. Then more recently with James Corden doing Carpool Karaoke.

No offence, @Sparklingbrook, but you seem to want to give off an impression that the entire subject is just a bit beneath you. Why did you insert a laughing face next to your comment about John’s will? I don’t mind being criticised - I’m too old to take offence at other people’s comments - but I don’t think I’ve posted anything that warrants being sneered at. Or perhaps you’re just trying to close down the debate? Do YOU work for the Estate? Lol.

Fair enough if you don’t have an opinion on Paul McCartney. I find that most people on MN are very vocal about how much they hate him.

Everyone on MN (the biggest website in the UK) hates him

There must be a whole section of posters on MN like myself who never give him a second thought and have no strong feelings about him either way too?

I love him. I loved them all. I also remember clearly hearing he had been shot. It is a day I will never forget. However the average age on MN is probably a reason why most people may not remember or care. The Beatles aren’t important to most people now sadly.

He’s not ‘beloved’ though, LondonWolf, is he? Everyone on MN (the biggest website in the UK) hates him. Except me - I love him, I think he’s great.

The media is a bit kinder to Paul these days, but God, they were unbelievably cruel to him for years. They treated him much, much worse than they ever did Heather Mills, especially after John was killed. More than one journalist wrote that the wrong Beatle was shot, that it should have been Paul. Linda even had to write to one of them and got an apology because it was affecting Paul so badly.

HM was an old-fashioned gold digger. Male or female, makes no difference, it was getting someone newly bereaved. I think women are generally a bit more sensible, and don’t take any “flannel” as mil used to say. PM’s dcs really disliked her, which says something, but they seem to like the next wife.

People who have had happy marriages are, by all accounts, more likely to hastily remarry than those who had their ups and downs.

As for John and Yoko, I’ve read several contemporary views, and they were all just bemused at the pairing. I think John’s brain was a bit addled and he would have gone off with anyone if they had been persistent enough.

Haven’t read the whole thread but I will. However, I couldn’t stand her at the time but I remember reading a very carefully worded article about how when they split PM turned on her completely eg he allegedly changed all the locks on joint properties without warning her so when she arrived to collect their child she was left on the street being harangued by paps. She couldn’t ever fight back against the full weight of public opinion or beloved “Macca” could she? I felt a bit sorry for her after that and tried to read between the lines whenever I read anything about her.

I'd be interested in a thread. I don't have a strong opinion about either John or Yoko, but I've read a few Beatles' biographies, including John's and I find their whole relationship quite frankly fascinating.

I think you should start a thread @ EYProvider

I’ve had a quick read of that threat, @Sparklingbrook, and I think you’re right. MN is not the place.

People’s views are too entrenched and they can’t get past WIFE BEATER JOHN and FEMINIST ICON YOKO.

One thing I will say about Ono - I don’t think much of her art, but she is an absolute genius at understanding how to construct an image and use it to distort history. A trailblazer in fact.

Will they close that thread if I start posting links, @Sparklingbrook?

Somebody has bumped it so now the thread title is factually incorrect. Brilliant.

Oh, well, there you go. Sam Green has been mentioned before.

Here's last year's. Thought the Bono comment was quite funny.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/_chat/4100146-John-Lennon-died-forty-years-ago-tomorrow?msgid=102413689

I don't remember learning of JL's death but I was only 7 at the time so it wouldn't have meant a lot to me.