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"Boston marriage" - any experience?

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abostonfiancee · 20/11/2021 20:52

In the historical understanding - i.e. two women living together as a household, or even a family unit, but without the underlying romantic / sexual relationship.

Discussed it with an old friend (we know each other for 20+ years), firstly as a joke, but then it actually turned into a serious discussion... and then into planning. We used to flat-share during the student years, and then were often on-off coach-surfing at each other's places for a couple of weeks at a time, and just joked that it was the healthiest and the most pleasurable co-habitation experience both of us have ever had (including our marriages). We get along extremely well together, all our friendship teething problems are (hopefully) well in the past.

We both are single mothers in professional jobs (same industry too), our children are approximately same age and are good friends. The housing and childcare costs are crippling us both, and we both are very lonely. No intention from any of us to remarry or even live with a man again until our children are much older.

Any obvious drawbacks to the plan?

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pointythings · 20/11/2021 21:27

A friend of mine did this after her very difficult divorce from a very controlling man. It worked out really well for her and her house partner. All the kids are grown up now and away at uni, and they have both moved on, but it gave them both stability and security for many years. They are still close friends.

DaisyNGO · 20/11/2021 21:26

OP I love this idea
Don't tell DP...

Seriously though, like most things, the first thing that strikes me is money. It would work best in neighbouring homes so the children could have their own family life, and that goes right back to needing an abundance of money.

As do most things sadly.

DukeofEarlGrey · 20/11/2021 21:26

Amazing idea, go for it. A bit less unusual but I bought my first flat with an old school friend when we were both single and couldn't afford to get on the housing ladder alone. Everyone told it was a bad idea but it was one of my best decisions ever, personally and financially - we bought, did up and lived in a lovely little place for a couple of years, then she moved in with a new boyfriend and I bought her out. We both had a lovely home, had fun and made a profit. You just need to get the legalities right and work as a team.

abostonfiancee · 20/11/2021 21:26

@Bananabrush

Would anyone worry about teenagers of the opposite sex who are not siblings living together? Or is that a bit paranoid?
Good point, but they are years and years from that age... and any blended family then has the same issues, no?
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abostonfiancee · 20/11/2021 21:24

@PiffleWiffleWoozle

I would do a trial 6 months or so with break clause.

Also definitely have clear wills in place and see a professional to sort. Would you rent or buy?

Yes, maybe a trial is a good idea.

We'll move to my house and will rent out hers. There's no intention to pool major capital assets at this stage yet - only the incomes / expenses.

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Summerfun54321 · 20/11/2021 21:24

I think if you could agree a full set of “house rules” for the children it could work. If you can’t agree those (like rules around homework, and bedtimes, and routines and chores etc) then it’s better to live next door to one another. I can’t see how different rules for the children would work within the same household.

icedcoffees · 20/11/2021 21:19

What happens re. childcare if one wants to go out without the other? Will you be happy looking after all the children?

What if one of you does meet someone and decides to break the agreement?

girafferafferaffe · 20/11/2021 21:18

Sounds great to me !

VanCleefArpels · 20/11/2021 21:18

Are your incomes similar so you can share the bills? If not how would these be split? Would you each cook for everyone or just your own kids? How will you share the “wife work”?

Bananabrush · 20/11/2021 21:18

Would anyone worry about teenagers of the opposite sex who are not siblings living together? Or is that a bit paranoid?

abostonfiancee · 20/11/2021 21:16

@SickAndTiredAgain

You’d need to plan for what would happen if the arrangement ended either due to falling out or one of you meeting someone.

I also think you’d need to discuss parenting. Obviously you’d parent your own children, but equally if the children are similar ages and you both have different rules about what they can/can’t do, or expectations around chores etc you could cause some friction between the kids. Also to what level are you happy with one person disciplining the other’s child. If your child is rude to her when you’re not there for example, can she speak to them about that. If they’re very rude or repeatedly misbehaving, can she enforce a punishment. And vice versa you with her kids.

Yes, all very good points. Thanks!

I don't think that immediate co-habitation with some guy is on the cards for any of us, this is something that we discussed already (that is actually how the whole discussion has started). But, of course, you never know.

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FirewomanSam · 20/11/2021 21:15

There was an incredible thread I read somewhere about this once (not Mumsnet, might have been AITA on Reddit?) where a few single women all lived in adjacent houses and basically turned it into kind of a commune and went to all family occasions and holidays together as if they were each other’s significant others (except there were three of them). It sounded absolutely incredible and if I were ever in your situation, and with the right person, I would do it in a heartbeat.

abostonfiancee · 20/11/2021 21:12

@Capricornandproud

Its brilliant. I would think kids & bedtimes plus parenting styles re punishment, grounding, electronics and attitudes to trying foods might be the only sticky bit… and I do think it could be confusing if one person tells off or reprimands the others child. Also, how will you both get your own privacy or quiet time? (Then again, I’m an introvert so might not apply…) If you get on well, quite easy going, either both lazy or both on the same page re housework and chores then go for it!
Yes, both quite lazy / messy to the same extent. We both have cleaners now, so there will be an additional benefit from pooling the funds on that front as well Grin
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Margotshypotheticaldog · 20/11/2021 21:12

If the house is big enough for everyone to fit comfortably, I think this could be a brilliant set up. I would also love to have this living arrangement, but currently have a similar problem to Nancy earlier in the thread....

rooarsome · 20/11/2021 21:11

I had a lovely patient a couple of years back. She had a beautiful house and always lamented how quiet it had become since the death of her husband. She had a good friend (whose husband had also died at a similar time) who she would try to meet for coffee, but with their health they each found it increasingly difficult. Eventually she invited the friend to move in with her.
They were fab, I loved going round.

SickAndTiredAgain · 20/11/2021 21:11

You’d need to plan for what would happen if the arrangement ended either due to falling out or one of you meeting someone.

I also think you’d need to discuss parenting. Obviously you’d parent your own children, but equally if the children are similar ages and you both have different rules about what they can/can’t do, or expectations around chores etc you could cause some friction between the kids. Also to what level are you happy with one person disciplining the other’s child. If your child is rude to her when you’re not there for example, can she speak to them about that. If they’re very rude or repeatedly misbehaving, can she enforce a punishment. And vice versa you with her kids.

abostonfiancee · 20/11/2021 21:10

@NuffSaidSam

Do you have the same parenting style? How would you fit into each others children's lives? I think there is potential for problems there.

Sounds great though and no more complicated than any other family set up.

Not exactly the same parenting style, no. But nothing that we have major conflicts over - I mean, we holiday together with the children, and quite used to sleepovers at each other's places too. I cannot say there have never been disagreements, but they are usually resolved quickly with no ill feelings (I hope!).
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Capricornandproud · 20/11/2021 21:09

Its brilliant. I would think kids & bedtimes plus parenting styles re punishment, grounding, electronics and attitudes to trying foods might be the only sticky bit… and I do think it could be confusing if one person tells off or reprimands the others child. Also, how will you both get your own privacy or quiet time? (Then again, I’m an introvert so might not apply…) If you get on well, quite easy going, either both lazy or both on the same page re housework and chores then go for it!

abostonfiancee · 20/11/2021 21:08

@Hairyfriend

Sounds great till things go wrong. What if one of your gets a partner? Gets back with an ex? Wants friends over? Would you be renting or buying together? how old are the children and would they want to live together? Would you have a house big enough for a separate lounge/sofa area for each family for space- all squished into 1 room every night?
Yes, the house is quite spacious - we will be quite an "average" family in terms of the number of people around here. Not necessarily with segregated spaces in the lounge, but all children will be able to have own rooms.
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Hairyfriend · 20/11/2021 21:05

Sounds great till things go wrong. What if one of your gets a partner? Gets back with an ex? Wants friends over? Would you be renting or buying together? how old are the children and would they want to live together? Would you have a house big enough for a separate lounge/sofa area for each family for space- all squished into 1 room every night?

Capricornandproud · 20/11/2021 21:05

@nancybotwinbloom

Normalise this. It sounds amazing. I just need to work out what to do with my DH
Brilliant 🤣🤣🤣
abostonfiancee · 20/11/2021 21:05

@BrieAndChilli

It depends, will you be renting? If so that makes it simpler if someone wants out at any point but if buying together that makes it complicated if someone does meet a partner and wants them over all the time etc.
We both are homeowners, so will be moving into one (my) house and (for the time being) renting out the other.

The agreement so far is that all dating / romance / sex has to happen outside of the house.

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PiffleWiffleWoozle · 20/11/2021 21:05

I would do a trial 6 months or so with break clause.

Also definitely have clear wills in place and see a professional to sort. Would you rent or buy?

citycitycity · 20/11/2021 21:04

I have been thinking the same recently - I wondered if there is a way to have a relationship with a woman but not sexual, as I’m not a lesbian. This sounds ideal! I didn’t know it had a name.

abostonfiancee · 20/11/2021 21:03

@ZingDramaQueenOfSheeba

sounds great! you've already got a good track record living together so why the heck not?

It's unclear to me whether it'd be just the two of you or kids involved as well - if the latter you can only know if the children would be happy with this or not.
If it's just you two then definitely go for it! best of luck

Ah no, kids too, of course. We both have 100% residence.
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