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To wonder how many Mumsnetters Mark Morriss has hit on?

113 replies

deeedeee · 18/11/2021 18:32

Strength in numbers. Well to Anna Wharton and the other 2 brave mums that have exposed him. There must be more ..

annawharton.substack.com/p/if-im-lying-come-sue-me

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inigomontoyahwillcox · 24/11/2021 14:45

@Deepat011051

I am entitled to my opinion, as are you. I stand by my support.
I'll hazard a guess that Deepat011501 is the intern at The Bluetones' record label who has been given the job of online disaster limitation.
Clymene · 24/11/2021 14:10

@Deepat011051

I am absolutely not Mark, I am definitely a woman, a mum and a grandmother. Sorry to disappoint.
As I thought. Too old for Mark to have hit on you. I've met him too. Several times and he was perfectly charming. But a) I'm too old and b) I was in a position of power. I'm not naive or stupid enough to think that means he is a lovely man.

Most of all though, I believe women.

Deepat011051 · 24/11/2021 11:58

I am entitled to my opinion, as are you. I stand by my support.

Deepat011051 · 24/11/2021 11:56

I am absolutely not Mark, I am definitely a woman, a mum and a grandmother. Sorry to disappoint.

Garriet · 24/11/2021 10:32

To think he also wrote a song from the perspective of a child living with domestic violence (Keep The Home Fires Burning). Can’t listen to that any more.

Candleabra · 24/11/2021 09:16

I’m shocked. Loved the blue tones but this is the end for them (for me). Brave Anna.

CrazyTimesAreOccurring · 24/11/2021 09:16

@Deepat011051 do you think abusers go around abusing everyone they meet?
"Oh hi Mark - how are you today?"
"F off you *** dont speak to me!!" (Whilst pinning the person against the wall?!

Of course not that isnt going to happen with everyone they meet! They would be sectioned/imprisoned quite quickly otherwise.

What a stupid comment you made, and typical of apologists for abusers. It is why people like JS got away with vile abuse for so long, "oh I saw nothing", " well, he raised money for kids", "he was always the perfect gent to ME" etc. They construct a facade and know exactly who to present it to

wheresmymojo · 24/11/2021 08:59

@Deepat011051

Always 2 sides to every story. I've met Mark many times and he's always been the perfect gent, so I speak as I find.

Fucking hell. It's exactly this attitude that allows abusive men to keep on being abusive in the face of testimony from many, many women.

What a knob. You and him. If you're even different people.

Motnight · 24/11/2021 08:53

@Deepat011051

Always 2 sides to every story. I've met Mark many times and he's always been the perfect gent, so I speak as I find.
Welcome to Mumsnet, Mark.
Gufo · 24/11/2021 08:41

@Deepat011051

Always 2 sides to every story. I've met Mark many times and he's always been the perfect gent, so I speak as I find.
That you, Mark?
EachandEveryone · 24/11/2021 08:37

Surely he’s broke now? I only liked the one hit.

RobinPenguins · 24/11/2021 08:14

Oh damn, I loved the Bluetones in my young teenager indie phase in the 90s. What a bastard.

Clymene · 24/11/2021 08:08

@Deepat011051

Always 2 sides to every story. I've met Mark many times and he's always been the perfect gent, so I speak as I find.
Many women speaking out against one man isn't 'two sides'. It's giving weight to men's voices over women.

And the fact that the whole band and entourage covered for and enabled Morriss's behaviour demonstrates that men closing ranks is what allows them to abuse time and again.

earlydoors42 · 24/11/2021 08:04

I had tickets for Bluetones this year but didn't go because I was worried about covid. I'm glad I didn't now (though my husband was sad to miss Sleeper who were also playing)

Battytwatty · 23/11/2021 19:01

They were due to play at Shine On festival a couple of weeks ago but for some reason they didn’t and we got Dodgy instead. I’m glad now after evading this. What a fucking dick!

Darkstar4855 · 23/11/2021 18:50

@Deepat011051

Always 2 sides to every story. I've met Mark many times and he's always been the perfect gent, so I speak as I find.
Most abusers are “the perfect gent”. That’s how they lure in their victims, and how they ensure that nobody else believes them when they speak out.

So pleased to see women coming forward and speaking out about this. I wish I could have read her account and heard Thea Gilmore/Afterlight’s podcast back when I was in an abusive relationship with a controlling narcissist.

DismantledKing · 23/11/2021 18:39

And that’s your first and only post, so you joined just to say that? Very much like the people that defended Ian Watkins after his arrest.

DismantledKing · 23/11/2021 18:35

@Deepat011051

Always 2 sides to every story. I've met Mark many times and he's always been the perfect gent, so I speak as I find.
That’s total bollocks. There’s plenty of women saying that he’s an abusive wanker, and then there’s you denying their experiences. You should be ashamed.
Ionlyhave2hands · 23/11/2021 10:22

@Deepat011051

Always 2 sides to every story. I've met Mark many times and he's always been the perfect gent, so I speak as I find.
This reminds me of what my ex told me his new girlfriend has said about him. I divorced my ex H after discovering he'd cheated on me throughout our marriage with prostitutes, colleagues, basically anyone. I asked him if he'd told her why the marriage ended. He said he'd been truthful about everything (I doubt this) and that she said she'll 'take him as (she) find(s) him'.

It's amazing what a woman will ignore when she's attracted to someone new with an horrific past and doesn't believe he'd be like that with her. I was the same when I discovered how he'd treated his 1st wife. As women, we're too willing to believe these awful men and assume that their behaviour must have been exclusive to their previous relationship. Once a lying, cheating scumbag, always a lying, cheating scumbag in my experience.

But hey ho, that's life and it continues.

It's only through women speaking out about their experiences like this that we get to understand patterns and that men just go from abusing one woman to the next.

I hope there's been enough coverage of him now that his next potential victim will have good friends and family talking some sense into her before it's too late.

Deepat011051 · 23/11/2021 09:36

Always 2 sides to every story. I've met Mark many times and he's always been the perfect gent, so I speak as I find.

deeedeee · 19/11/2021 21:40

Even if his band mates weren’t womanisers themselves, they must of enabled Morriss’s behaviour. One of them is his brother , so the uncle of the child he called unwanted as a seduction technique.

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EachandEveryone · 19/11/2021 20:40

Of course they wouldn’t have been it’s like a private club when they on tour.

Friedcheeseisthebest · 19/11/2021 20:01

Safe to say his career is over. Feel sorry for his bandmates too although it sounds like a couple of them may not have been whiter than white having read a comment above.

RJnomore1 · 19/11/2021 17:31

@Merryoldgoat

Infidelity in and of itself isn't abusive in my opinion.

It can be part and pattern of abuse of course but the act itself isn't - nasty, selfish, unthinking, cruel - yes. Abusive? Not automatically.

To be clear I'm talking generally. This man is quite clearly an abusive horror and my comments don't apply to his behaviour.

I agree completely with this comment.
JunoMcDuff · 19/11/2021 17:28

@deeedeee

It’s definately abusive in my book
What all infidelity or this specific situation?