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I hate my husband and am angry all the time around my kids

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Cotscats · 14/11/2021 21:44

Looking for some help unravelling my feelings. There is no one in real life I would want to admit this to. Family and friends think we're happily married and my husband is great.

Our marriage is in a bad state. We haven't had sex since conceiving our youngest (now 7 years old). Sex life was ok when dating. After our first child arrived (now 12) things went downhill. He's not very interested - used to watch a lot of porn and I clearly don't really turn him on.

That's one issue. The other is he does not/will not talk to me. If I start a conversation it's like a chore for him to join in. It's an open joke - he'll tolerate me and listen to me ramble on but it's like he's doing me a favour. He's not interested in talking about anything with me really - not the kids, not our future plans ... he prefers me to sort it all out then inform him. An example is choosing schools for the children; he will leave it to me to book open days, visit, look around, make the applications. It's like this with most things in our life - booking a holiday, buying a garden shed or a car - all research and arrangements down to me.

Lastly I recently went from part time to full time work and he will not do anything additional to share the load now I have less hours in the day. We talked about this before I accepted the full time job and he assured me he would share the load. Do Friday school run for example. He doesn't. I am so frustrated and angry that I blew up a couple of weeks ago and he refuses to talk to me about it because I'm so angry.

This is what happens every time I try to talk to him about an issue in our relationship. I go to him, talk calmly and reasonably about the issue. He immediately goes on the defensive and starts talking in a booming voice that drowns me out. I ask him to quieten down so the children don't hear. He doesn't. Then I start to feel angry and frustrated. I'll either shout or cry - and that's his cue. He storms off. Sometimes leaves the house. More often goes to another room and sulks. If I follow him he gets angrier and shouts. Says he can't talk to me because all I do is shout and put him down. But I don't - I start off trying to talk but then he refuses to talk and booms over me to shut me up then I feel frustrated. It's as though he has this perfect formula to stop us ever communicating. I hate it. I can't stand being around him any longer. Today I just wanted to give up. I can't live like this anymore. I want to feel happy.

I take it out on the children. I'm short with them, impatient, unsmiling. The opposite of who I am and the parent I want to be. Why am I taking it out on them and not him? I can't think straight anymore and feel so hopeless about the future.

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Embracelife · 14/11/2021 23:08

@Cotscats

I don't know where to begin with divorce. I do not want to leave the family home with the kids. He would not leave if I asked him to.
Why don't you want to leave? Imagine your place you choose? What s so great about your family home? Right now it s only nice when he is not in it !
Twinsmummy1812 · 14/11/2021 23:07

Well things can’t carry on as they are, not good for anyone in the household. You seem reluctant to leave but perhaps you could just detach yourself bit by bit until you feel ready to leave or the two of you make a joint effort. Just bear in mind that whatever is going on in the house your children are living with and learning from. Do you want to model this life for them?

My parents were miserable and stayed together until their 60’s and my mum is still incredibly bitter and horrible about my dad. I wish they had split up when I was a child. Then again it taught me what I didn’t want but I’m not sure that is a parenting goal!

Harddecisionhelp · 14/11/2021 23:07

@Cotscats

I don't know where to begin with divorce. I do not want to leave the family home with the kids. He would not leave if I asked him to.
I think you need to speak to a solicitor and find out where you are actually likely to stand OP. Would you feel differently if your settlement allowed you to stay in the family home do you think? If you were able to get an occupation order he would have to leave.
HesterShaw1 · 14/11/2021 23:04

@Cotscats

I don't know where to begin with divorce. I do not want to leave the family home with the kids. He would not leave if I asked him to.
How about going to see a solicitor for a starters? They will suggest a course of action for you.

It's daunting, I know it is.

Itsbeen84yearss · 14/11/2021 23:04

Omg no just end it. Your kids lives will be better for it. He sounds lazy so probably won’t bother with access and the kids can vote with their feet anyway. You’ll be free to enjoy your kids without his nasty presence

Embracelife · 14/11/2021 23:04

*we couldn't afford two homes). And feeling like a conventional family.

Our financial situation is that he earns many times over what I earn*

So of course you can afford two homes

Maybd not as big as the one you have x two

But something you can rent til you sort the divorce
If he earns many times what you do
You are in a good position right?
See aLawyer
Get all the financial info
See a counsellor for you

HesterShaw1 · 14/11/2021 23:03

If you're married that will benefit you financially

Cotscats · 14/11/2021 23:02

I don't know where to begin with divorce. I do not want to leave the family home with the kids. He would not leave if I asked him to.

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HesterShaw1 · 14/11/2021 23:02

You poor thing. I've been there and it really is no way to live. It sounds as though this marriage has definitely run its course. There's nothing wrong with calling time on a relationship, including marriage with children. You will thank yourself for it. It's so much easier on your own than in a relationship like this, and in time, you might meet someone much nicer. But if you don't want to, that's fine too x

Harddecisionhelp · 14/11/2021 23:00

@Cotscats

I keep thinking I'll find a way to be happier then it will be ok. I'll get my act together, get my optimism back. Counselling is an option but it would be me arranging it of course. He would happily carry on like this and that's the thing I can't understand. Why doesn't he want better than this - why doesn't he do something to help make things better?
The day you stop trying to work out why he behaves the way he does is the day you set yourself free OP, it's an absolute hiding to nothing trying to understand people who won't communicate. You've given him the opportunity, probably numerous times, to make things better, to work with you so you can all be happier and he's chosen not to take it so you can safely assume he never will. So this is it, this is what's on offer if you stay with him, you and the kids grabbing what happiness you can when he's not there and then feeling it drain away when he walks in the door. Do you honestly think your kids will be more damaged by you splitting than living like that for their entire childhood?
Cotscats · 14/11/2021 22:57

Our house is solely in his name as is the mortgage. We are married with 3 children.

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Cotscats · 14/11/2021 22:53

I need to expand that things are not always like this. They are like this maybe 50% of the time. A lot of the time lately. It's been difficult with me takin on a full time job because that has magnified our problems (him not sharing the load, me having less time to emotionally reset to cope with this relationship). Home should be a sanctuary - I always wanted this for myself and for the kids.

If we separated what do I think I would miss? Our home I suppose (we couldn't afford two homes). And feeling like a conventional family.

Our financial situation is that he earns many times over what I earn. I put my career on the back burner to look after the kids. I'm full time again now and will progress over the next few years.

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Helenahandbasketbing · 14/11/2021 22:52

@Cotscats

I am trying not to rely on him but my resentment builds up. He is sarcastic and upsets the kids. When he's at work during the week we have a nice time, there's no bad atmosphere. When he's around at the week ends he's always arguing with the kids and I feel angry that he's upsetting the happy place we were in all week.
You simply can’t subject your children to this just so you can avoid a self-imposed sense of ‘shame’.

There’s no shame in leaving a toxic marriage. There IS shame in subjecting your children to his behaviour and the bitter, poisonous environment that you and your husband have created.

Embracelife · 14/11/2021 22:50

@Cotscats

I keep thinking I'll find a way to be happier then it will be ok. I'll get my act together, get my optimism back. Counselling is an option but it would be me arranging it of course. He would happily carry on like this and that's the thing I can't understand. Why doesn't he want better than this - why doesn't he do something to help make things better?
Do counselling for you alone.
Billi77 · 14/11/2021 22:50

Would your want your DC to be in a marriage like this? Well they will if you stay together. Either this or worse. You are their template.
Leave

Aria999 · 14/11/2021 22:50

Just because your parents had an unhappy divorce experience, doesn't mean that you and your kids would do necessarily.

My parents split when I was 10. I felt no shame. Once I got used to the idea i was glad they split because it was obvious they were making each other unhappy. They both went on to have a better life with other people.

Everyone is different.

LBOCS2 · 14/11/2021 22:49

But you're not happy now. So why do you think you'll be unhappy after you get rid of the thing making you unhappy?

I had divorced parents, and we were fine. Both our parents loved us and my DM more than made up for DDad not being around all the time. She wasn't perfect by any stretch of the imagination, but one thing she did model for me was the fact that you don't have to put up with a shit situation if you don't want to.

youvegottenminuteslynn · 14/11/2021 22:46

You need to reframe this. Why don't you want better than this for your children badly enough you leave someone who is horrible to them and you, and who you blame for taking adult frustrations out on your children? I can't express strongly enough how toxic this environment is for them, in both the long and short term. Home should be their sanctuary, not a shouty / tense place where both adults are making them feel anxious and annoying.

MyCatHatesEverybody · 14/11/2021 22:44

Arguments in an otherwise reasonably happy, peaceful home are normal. Living enveloped in a cloud of hatred and resentment and stonewalling as your norm is not, and you are absolutely modelling a blueprint for your children's future relationships. My mum should have left my dad for many of the behaviours you describe, it damaged our relationship irreparably and we see each other infrequently now.

Cotscats · 14/11/2021 22:44

I keep thinking I'll find a way to be happier then it will be ok. I'll get my act together, get my optimism back. Counselling is an option but it would be me arranging it of course. He would happily carry on like this and that's the thing I can't understand. Why doesn't he want better than this - why doesn't he do something to help make things better?

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Fireflygal · 14/11/2021 22:42

It's a very unhealthy dynamic. His refusal to discuss is passive aggressive and it's a forrm of control.

I would recommend reading some books such as Why does he do that (you can often find a free version online) and Patricia Evans, the Verbally abusive relationship.

It's important you don't react to him by being angry as that's what he wants. The children must be witnessing this so they will be learning unhealthy ways to resolve conflicts .

HTH1 · 14/11/2021 22:42

I’m so sorry, OP Flowers It really does sound like you and the DC would be so much happier if you split up. Life is just too short and there honestly is no shame in divorce these days.

ThreeLocusts · 14/11/2021 22:42

Hey OP, I just want to let you know that you are not alone with the worst part of the situation, namely that tension b/w you and your husband affects your interactions with your kids negatively. I have this problem too.

My dilemma is very different in other regards - I don't think separation is the solution because we fight mostly over childcare issues that we would still share if separated, and he is very involved with the kids.

I think in an odd, perhaps sad, way lowering expectations of the dp helps. And just telling yourself that you want him out of your head - trying to switch off that running negative commentary that he provides in the imagination.

Somehow things have got somewhat better for us. Here's hoping they will for you. But it's also important to listen to doubts and be ready to revise decisions.

youvegottenminuteslynn · 14/11/2021 22:42

@Cotscats

I rationalise. All couples/parents argue.
Not all children grow up with a father who is rude and mean to them and a mum who says "I take it out on the children. I'm short with them, impatient, unsmiling. The opposite of who I am and the parent I want to be."

I'm saying this to be honest and give some tough love, not to be a dick. All parents / couples disagree. My partner has never called me a name, ignored me to punish me, lost his temper with me or made me feel shit about myself. Those things should be expectations, not exceptions to the rule. They are expectations you should want your kids to have for their own relationships. They will expect to be shouted at, have slanging matches, have a partner lose their temper, be called names etc if they grow up in this environment. They'll likely take their frustrations out on their kids as that's what they will think is normal and acceptable.

Don't make that your legacy.

Nanny0gg · 14/11/2021 22:41

@Cotscats

I am trying not to rely on him but my resentment builds up. He is sarcastic and upsets the kids. When he's at work during the week we have a nice time, there's no bad atmosphere. When he's around at the week ends he's always arguing with the kids and I feel angry that he's upsetting the happy place we were in all week.
That tells you all you need to know about leaving

What's the financial position?