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To be ashamed of our Sleazebag PM?

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Sean2001 · 08/11/2021 14:17

If it wasn't bad enough, Johnson presiding over the Paterson vote last week ...

He's now refusing to attend the debate today on sleaze/corruption

He also will not allow the sleaze watchdog to look into his flat refurbishment.

Does Johnson actually think this kind of behaviour is impressive?

I find it deeply embarrassing.

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Roussette · 09/11/2021 11:37

Lonelycrab I agree. They either like him because he's funny or they just don't care but when pushed to pick someone they pick him because Corbyn doncha know.

I think the wheels are coming off the bus now (hopefully) because he cannot trade on vaccine vaccine vaccine anymore like he's done for over a year. Other EU countries have overtaken us on that.

So he is lamely trying booster booster booster but that's not really working.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 09/11/2021 11:29

The maskless pictures have added to the heat haven't they?

In a way, yes - but by giving plenty of appalling behaviours to go at, it saves too much attention being given to any one of them IYSWIM?

Not that he has to actually "give" them, since with such a morality-free zone they just keep tumbling out anyway

GiantHaystacks2021 · 09/11/2021 10:49

He's a disgrace. Always was, always will be.

Lonelycrab · 09/11/2021 10:39

They are brainwashed. They like him 'because he's funny'. They like him because he breaks the rules and does it his way

I’d say it’s more that they’re apathetic and disinterested rather than brainwashed. Hence the three word slogan bullshit. Quick soundbite telling people how they should feel without any real substance.

I’m not calling these people thick. They just don’t care, and Johnson appeals to these people as he has a few gags and appears to be someone you’d like to have a pint with. Politicians haven’t really played that way before, but it’s essentially just populism, simple answers for complex problems when the real answers are too boring or troublesome for these voters to process.

And all the time this pantomime goes on, our international reputation has plummeted to an all time low. The EU just want us to fuck off now, and the US is not far behind. Woo Australia likes us and that’s about it. And that is an appalling state of affairs.

boogiewithasuitcase · 09/11/2021 10:21

Thank you Roussette. I know you are absolutely right...it's just so frustrating that so many people think this way. Johnson is their rock star.

Sloth66 · 09/11/2021 10:01

The point is that in a system enabling institutional corruption , an individual such as Johnson, flourishes.
Many of these MPs simply believe they are above the law , look at Paterson and now Cox.
And I’d be nice nterested to know how many are still employing family members on generous salaries with absolutely no scrutiny or process.

Thelnebriati · 09/11/2021 10:00

He's a Trump mini me.

Roussette · 09/11/2021 09:58

I am afraid to say boogie there are those voters out there who will always support him whatever. They are brainwashed. They like him 'because he's funny'. They like him because he breaks the rules and does it his way. They like him because they're like him. They would no more watch, for instance, the live debate on Standards yesterday in the HoC, than fly to the moon.

boogiewithasuitcase · 09/11/2021 09:54

I was watching Channel Four News last night and a member of the public was asked about Johnson. She said something like:

' I think Boris has done a good job over the past 18 months and it is The Media that are now blowing things out of proportion'

Does she not have the Parliament Channel on her TV? She can see all the debates about corruption for herself then. Hmm

DuncinToffee · 09/11/2021 09:50

It's a distraction

Next up Geoffrey Cox who earned £1m from external legal work on top of his £82,000 MP's salary in the past year, stands accused of “pocketing hundreds of thousands of pounds to help stop the exposure of corruption in a Caribbean paradise”

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10179601/Former-attorney-general-Geoffrey-Cox-second-job-saw-vote-remotely-Caribbean.html

Crikeyalmighty · 09/11/2021 09:50

If anyone else brings up Iraq to justify voting in this bunch of aresholes,hindsight is an amazing thing, the Torys voted for Iraq too by the way and managed similar with Libya and many years ago the Falklands, they are hardly squeaky clean on this front , iraq wasn't a uni lateral thing just randomly gone ahead with and was based on intelligence, yes turns out the intelligence was flawed but they didn't do it off the top of their head without parliament.some of you seem a bit late to politics and whats gone before. My biggest issue with labour is nothing to do with this, the biggest issue is pandering to the ludicrously woke brigade and trying to push the Brexit issue to one side (although I suspect this is playing politics and they will indeed seek an EFTA deal) however if that's the biggest issues then I will take these any day over this current bunch of self serving failed Apprentice candidates with inflated egos and zero sense of decency.

Roussette · 09/11/2021 09:48

The Times' Matthew Parris has written this... totally scathing.
He's turned on him.

To be ashamed of our Sleazebag PM?
Roussette · 09/11/2021 09:44

The maskless pictures have added to the heat haven't they?

Yes.
It would've worked at one point. Not now. Nor did his Benny Hill impression at G20.
I do hope even his most avid supporters are getting tired of how much of a fool he is. And how he makes us look as a country.

He's a charlatan full of bluster, soundbites and hot air.

RunnerDown · 09/11/2021 09:14

@Kaibashira

YANBU but don't call it sleaze. That minimises what should be called what it is - institutional corruption.
Absolutely this
Sean2001 · 09/11/2021 09:12

The maskless pictures have added to the heat haven't they?

There was once a time we'd have laughed.

Not anymore.

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Puzzledandpissedoff · 09/11/2021 09:05

Only 46 out of 365 Conservative MPs have turned up for this debate

I'm surprised it was as many as that; after all many are clearly enjoyng the opportunities for corruption the role offers, so why would they be interested in a "debate" condemning it except to grandstand?

I suppose we could say they're the ones who aren't filling their boots, but personally I'd be looking even more closely into the activities of the attendees

As for Boris's maskless visit to the hospital, he most likely hoped these pics would take some of the heat off the other headline ... as indeed they have

DuncinToffee · 09/11/2021 08:41

He put a mask on as soon as the photographs were taken, so not exempt. So just for headlines, distraction from the Tory sleaze debate?

MsJinks · 09/11/2021 07:57

I’ve been embarrassed by having Johnson as PM since he got in - every catastrophe is no surprise and I can’t keep up with the one thing after another. Whilst all parties have had their issues this is unusual IMO in that there’s a new one at least weekly.
However, I am outraged at him going around a hospital without a mask, and if he has an exemption then he should say. I have to wonder if it is his latest attempt at a dead cat, as this is beyond any idea of acceptable even for the man himself surely.

Roussette · 09/11/2021 07:51

He is a total embarrassment.

And anyone saying that Starmer and Labour didn't bite back obviously did not have on live the debate on parliamentary standards that lasted 3 hours in the HoC yesterday.

Starmer and many many other labour MPs absolutely wiped the floor with Johnson, Rees-Mogg et al.
They had some very valid points, they knocked down every counter argument, they were very very good.
Unfortunately many tory MPs couldn't be bothered to turn up, as didn't Johnson.,
Rees-Mogg was squirming and wriggling, crestfallen and awkward, as he should've taken the Debate as Leader of the House but he is a coward like is boss Johnson who pratted about in a hospital maskless, in the vain hope that would take the headlines and not the Commons debate.

Yusanaim · 09/11/2021 07:27

the 'shy Tories ' will just vote as they always have done or the majority will just be cut down a bit.

But the red wall conservatives in north constituencies can't afford to be cut down a bit or they risk losing the seat, they have small majorities - hence them not being happy with Boris

longwayoff · 09/11/2021 07:01

He is an utter, cowardly, snivelling, slob and arrogant with it. I'm embarrassed to have him as PM. He and his supporters should take note. In this wealthy constituency in the South, the Tory MP could once sit smugly on a majority of thousands. Last election he managed a majority of around 900. And our MP is one of the better ones who still has a sense of decency. Mostly. Waving goodbye next time around.

the80sweregreat · 09/11/2021 06:36

I maintain that the North Shropshire by election ( Owen Paterson's seat ) will still be won by the conservatives ; he has a huge majority and I just can't see people voting any other way. There is talk of a anti sleaze party standing ( I heard something on the radio the other day , but not sure if this will happen ) but people might be suspicious of their actual policies and the 'shy Tories ' will just vote as they always have done or the majority will just be cut down a bit.
I don't think it'll make many waves.

MimiDaisy11 · 09/11/2021 05:49

@DirectionToPerfection

The whole "they're all as bad as each other" mantra is infuriating.

No, they really are not.

Yes! It’s just an excuse for indifference and inaction
Yusanaim · 09/11/2021 05:45

Isn't Owen Patterson in a northern seat? I think the by election might swing from Tories. Which will shake them up.

Libelula21 · 09/11/2021 05:34

Johnson’s career has been as an entertainer, paid controversialist, pontificator, TV celeb.

He’s been sacked twice for lying to his bosses, fabricated stories, etc.

There’s nothing serious about his career, literally tens of thousands of people could write as well or better than him, he just had the connections and the brazenness.

Probably his biggest job has been editor of the Spectator, or Sextator, as it was then known. That’s when he pressured his junior colleague into having an abortion after she fell pregnant by him.