To be ashamed of our Sleazebag PM?

The opposition are all over this - I don't know why people keep asking where they are. They are condemning this all over social media, where and when they can in parliament, in the actual media! Fed up with the narrative the opposition are nowhere to be seen.

Where tf are the opposition?
Why does Boris think he’s above the law?
Why doesn’t he respect parliament?
It’s completely embarrassing and tragic

I happen to think the rule is wrong, but it is very clearly the same for all MPs. Of course, some will have more opportunity to get outside work and some will command higher pay rates, but that doesn't mean the rules are different.

If Cox was using his position as an MP to enrich himself or benefit his business associates by influencing the government, that would be corruption. Having a second job which pays a high salary is not corruption.

Of what relevance is the US system?? If I remember correctly you have to be pretty loaded to even get into US politics for various reasons - how about the poster of this tosh compares to the system here in Denmark— you are out on your ear if you so much as over claim £200 equivalent. Rules are incredibly strict on conflicts of interest etc

This is why I get frustrated when folk pile blame on the media, since it doesn't have to influence us too strongly unless we let it.

It's what we are not told and what they deliberately choose not to report on, or conversely what to deliberately over-focus on, that is the problem. Reading all the different angles and getting to the truth is very time-consuming and a lot of people don't have that time.

I can't understand how he gets away with it

bLoNd mAn fUnNy

The problem is you have the voters that take the time to look into the parties and work out a rational reason for voting for them. Then you have the ones who are spoon fed the funky new terminology that a party is going with and rehash it online like they came up with it

Very true, and too often the second group read a couple of headlines in some rag (or, god help us, Twitter) and base their choice on them without much further thought

This is why I get frustrated when folk pile blame on the media, since it doesn't have to influence us too strongly unless we let it. Much better, at least IMO, to use reports as a spur to look something up and find the facts - or as close to them as we can get, anyway

Course it's corruption, just look at this... Being an MP is not a first job for Cox. It's very much a second job, if that

prh47bridge "this is not corruption by any stretch of the imagination" My imagination isn't even breaking sweat. It's one rule for rich white men who know Boris, one rule for everybody else.

There are second jobs and there are second jobs.

Let's play count the non-Tories in this list of cushy nepotistic income streams. You won't need two hands.

www.bbc.com/news/explainers-59206904

Why be ashamed about someone else's behaviour? You're not responsible for it.

You are either hypocrites or may be do some research as to how Pelosi and that lot made their fortunes?

Why would we want to talk about that on a thread about the Tories and Johnson?
Start a thread on that if you want yourself!

And looking into this more... Wouldn’t this be a conflict of interest? He is employed by the Government, is an MP but doing legal work for the accused.

He is defending the BVI after the UK Government set up a commission of enquiry into wrongdoing. Cox is earning a fortune advising a tax haven which is being investigated by the British Government, of which he is an elected member? Not just greedy but totally corrupt as well as it must be a major conflict of interest.

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I can recognise some posters here that are big supporters of the U.S Democrats. You are either hypocrites or may be do some research as to how Pelosi and that lot made their fortunes? U.K. MP’s are small potatoes compared to that. Be consistent to be taken seriously 😐

If I was a constituent of Cox I would be really furious. How can he have been there for his constituents 4,000 miles away? This was during the difficult times of covid, he could have been seen to be at a vaccine centre, ensuring foodbanks stay open, reassuring his constituents that he would be there to answer calls, representing them in parliament... but no, he shipped his family out to the caribbean and trousered just short of £1M.

As of October 2020, there were 70 MPs employing family members. Since 2017, MPs have been banned from employing family members although that ban does not extend to those who were already employed. No MP employs more than one family member. They are paid in line with IPSA pay ranges. To say there is no scrutiny or process is simply wrong.

The problem is you have the voters that take the time to look into the parties and work out a rational reason for voting for them. Then you have the ones who are spoon fed the funky new terminology that a party is going with and rehash it online like they came up with it.

@adamryan Gladly! Scotland would be an unbearably very narrow place if it became independent, just to not be outward-looking and welcoming. I hope that’s not a risk. Though there are issues with the fragile Gaelic-speaking / low-income island communities.

That no one has really held him to account in the past 30 years - bar the Eddie Mair interview, I suppose - depresses me.

Yes it's very depressing, how the establishment aided by the media protects itself. Then so many people in denial or don't care. However, on the bright side, some stones have been lifted and the creepies are all crawling out now. Hopefully a few will get squished and trodden into the muck where they belong.

If not, at least now we know what really goes on at Westminster; if people choose not to look, they've only got themselves to blame when they get bitten.

As a Scot, especially, it makes me despair. I voted No in 2014, now I’m left feeling that a vote for independence is a vote for the UK values we used to have.
As an English person, don't blame you at all and am hoping you'll welcome expats from England after that's happened

Time again for Peter Stefanovic' video

twitter.com/peterstefanovi2/status/1455986139718893572?s=21

Tim Tams. Waving a vacuum-packed kipper on a podium and lying about it. Lying, lying, lying.

I’ll stop now. But I can’t stand the man. That no one has really held him to account in the past 30 years - bar the Eddie Mair interview, I suppose - depresses me.

It’s the combination of the professional, political and personal amorality which horrified me.

In no real order:

Racist, xenophobic, misogynistic columns

Lying to the Queen for the illegal Prorogation

Gaslighting remarks about making model buses, etc - is he laughing at us?!

Leaving Arcuri alone in the marital home to take selfies - massive security risk, and insult to his wife

Not acknowledging his own children.

Overturning a statute to provide foreign aide through a Government vote.

The humongous Union Jack’s / St George’s flag (the football) everywhere

Never giving interviews on TV

Actively trying to undermine and destabilise the EU / the disgrace of the Northern Ireland Protocol.

£37 billion given to cronies for Test and Trace in England and Wales, and how that’s falsely branded NHS T&T

His callous disregard for life and public health in his handling of coronavirus

The shiftiness over the Mustique and Marbella holidays, the flat redecoration, the £27k worth of donated takeaways.

The laziness, the unkemptness.

Conducting an affair (or two) while his wife is battling cancer.

Signing off on a Withdrawal Agreement he never, ever intended to honour.

Keeping Priti Patel in post after she’d been found to have broken the Ministerial Code (and already been sacked for going rogue).

Dominic Cummings.

I mean. Complete. And. Utter. Charlatan.

As a Scot, especially, it makes me despair. I voted No in 2014, now I’m left feeling that a vote for independence is a vote for the UK values we used to have.

Yes, I agree.

Some Johnson supporters acted like he had personally vaccinated each and every one of them earlier in the year.

He cannot trade on vaccine vaccine vaccine anymore like he's done for over a year

Very true, Roussette, but if we manage to get through this winter without another lockdown he can always claim "Look what I saved you from!!" - and worst of all, some will believe it

FWIW I believe Covid has a lot to do with the (understandable) frustration many of us are feeling right now. So much has been lost, and to see these creatures continuing to fight for the trough with absolutely no concern for anyone but themselves gets a bit much at times