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to ask how best to report someone for no MOT?

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MOTexpired · 11/10/2021 10:41

I have some unpleasant neighbours in my street - not immediately next door but close proximity. They tick most of the poor neighbour boxes - loud, large parties (earlier this year they had about 50-60 mid teens round who were all drinking, dropping bottles and cans all over the street etc), their garden is full of rubbish, broken furniture etc, they let their dogs roam the streets - and kids for that matter, they do some small time drug dealing etc. You get the idea.

They have a car which is often illegally parked, driven by one of the elder kids who is under 17, doesn't look or sound particularly roadworthy - out of interest I looked it up today as I saw it backfiring down the street (driven by one of the adults) - and the MOT ran out in mid August.

On the gov.uk website it said to report to our local police (Met) via 101, I tried calling but gave up after about 10 mins on hold; looked online but the form seems to require me to give name and address which I'm not keen on in case there's any way they find out it was me - they're the sort of people to key your car or worse. Is there a way to report without this? - do I just need to go on hold to 101? The online form also seemed more geared to reporting a 'someone's broken into my house' crime rather than this kind of thing?

If anyone has reported for this it would be most helpful, thanks

OP posts:
simitra · 11/10/2021 16:11

I dont like snitches either. However when you have shitpigs living alongside you its sometimes the only way to get back and cause them a bit of inconvenience in return.

If you have to give your name & address is there an empty house nearby whose address you could use? I did that when objecting to a planning application.

If its one of those sites where they insist upon sending you an email for you to acknowledge it just set up a temporary one on googlemail or hotmail etc.

Bonheurdupasse · 11/10/2021 16:09

Give a different name and address :)

mikedyson · 11/10/2021 14:34

Ugh I hate neighbours like you. Times I like these I'm glad I have off road parking.

Expired in August. So possible that they overlooked this given it's 40 days overdue. Not great and they will get a fine anyway when they do eventually renew it, but hate meddling & malicious neighbours like you!

I hate people who call it meddling when people are blatantly breaking the law and someone mentions it to the Police.

They won't get an automatic fine when (if) they get a new MOT - you clearly have no idea what you are talking about.

mikedyson · 11/10/2021 14:32

@daffodils123

I get reporting underage driver (though if you don't know your neighbours I suspect that this is your guess rather than knowing how old they are) or reporting dangerous driving, but this sounds ridiculous.

People should mind their business in my opinion.

How do you know they don't have insurance?

Horrible society we live in when meddling people are so quick to report others about things that don't concern them. Hmm

Horrible society we live in where people can get away with anti-social behaviour and law breaking and all some people can do is say "don't grass" - pathetic.
FredaFox · 11/10/2021 12:46

Can't you report it online? My force has a chat thing you can report things too. You could create an email just for this purpose if that worried about giving details

Wegobshite · 11/10/2021 12:35

If you have a local PCSO tell them
We had a neighbour that had no Insurance tax or mot and the PSCO got the car removed within a few weeks
You could report it to the council - tell them it’s leaking petrol 😂
They put a notice on it and if it’s still there in 15 days it will get removed on the 15th day where I live

GivenUpEntirely · 11/10/2021 12:19

@MOTexpired you can also check online if it's taxed/insured.

DVLA care far more about untaxed vehicles than the police do about non-road worthy ones that they don't catch in the act.

The last time I reported a non-taxed car it was clamped within a week. DVLA will also fine if the car isn't continuously insured if not SORN. If they've declared the car as SORN and DVLA do a drive by that'll trigger the penalties. Basically DVLA are your best bet if they've failed to do the insurance/tax thing too.

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MOTexpired · 11/10/2021 12:14

@daffodils123 I never said they don't have insurance. I have no idea either way. The teenager (who is in year 10/11, so unless held back a year or two is definitely not 17) will not be insured of course.

@Confiscatedpopit I can't imagine getting on well with a neighbour who drove round in an apparently unroadworthy car but I'll concede that but for their other anti social behaviour and the under age driving I probably wouldn't have checked.

Unfortunately there is nowhere I can complain about the general nuisance they cause, they rent their home and the HA will only look into complaints if a) you give your name and address and b) it's already been reported to the police - except the police aren't interested in it.

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Original poster
MOTexpired · 11/10/2021 12:07

Part of the responsibility of having a car is making sure it's insured, taxed and MOTd. If it wasn't taxed DVLA would probably have clamped it by now.

The car is used daily. A car that's being driven needs a MOT.

However I take the point made by PPs that even if I report it nothing will happen - much like nothing happens about any of their other anti social behaviour. I'll just have to hope it gets stopped at some point by the police although given the general state of the car I'm surprised it hasn't been already.

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Confiscatedpopit · 11/10/2021 12:03

I think you need to really be honest with yourself about your motives for this.

If they were the best neighbours in the world then would you report the MOT? Would you have even looked it up?

If the issue is that you are genuinely just concerned about an unroadworthy car on the road then go ahead. If it’s just to seek revenge then I wouldn’t waste my time. It’ll get flagged up in time- 2 months isn’t an enormous amount of time. I’d either speak to them about their anti-social shite or if that isn’t an option then I’d either complain in the correct way or move.

daffodils123 · 11/10/2021 12:02

I get reporting underage driver (though if you don't know your neighbours I suspect that this is your guess rather than knowing how old they are) or reporting dangerous driving, but this sounds ridiculous.

People should mind their business in my opinion.

How do you know they don't have insurance?

Horrible society we live in when meddling people are so quick to report others about things that don't concern them. Hmm

daffodils123 · 11/10/2021 12:00

@MOTexpired

I have some unpleasant neighbours in my street - not immediately next door but close proximity. They tick most of the poor neighbour boxes - loud, large parties (earlier this year they had about 50-60 mid teens round who were all drinking, dropping bottles and cans all over the street etc), their garden is full of rubbish, broken furniture etc, they let their dogs roam the streets - and kids for that matter, they do some small time drug dealing etc. You get the idea.

They have a car which is often illegally parked, driven by one of the elder kids who is under 17, doesn't look or sound particularly roadworthy - out of interest I looked it up today as I saw it backfiring down the street (driven by one of the adults) - and the MOT ran out in mid August.

On the gov.uk website it said to report to our local police (Met) via 101, I tried calling but gave up after about 10 mins on hold; looked online but the form seems to require me to give name and address which I'm not keen on in case there's any way they find out it was me - they're the sort of people to key your car or worse. Is there a way to report without this? - do I just need to go on hold to 101? The online form also seemed more geared to reporting a 'someone's broken into my house' crime rather than this kind of thing?

If anyone has reported for this it would be most helpful, thanks

Ugh I hate neighbours like you. Times I like these I'm glad I have off road parking.

Expired in August. So possible that they overlooked this given it's 40 days overdue. Not great and they will get a fine anyway when they do eventually renew it, but hate meddling & malicious neighbours like you!

mikedyson · 11/10/2021 11:55

@CareerConcerns1999

Keeping a taxed car with no MOT on the street is not a crime. Driving without an MOT is the offence. Unless they are caught whilst driving, no crime has taken place.
You are wrong - lots of crimes take place without a person being caught. The Police don't need to be present at each and every crime for it to have occurred.
CareerConcerns1999 · 11/10/2021 11:52

Keeping a taxed car with no MOT on the street is not a crime. Driving without an MOT is the offence. Unless they are caught whilst driving, no crime has taken place.

mikedyson · 11/10/2021 11:51

@jimmyhill

Is it taxed and insured? They might be more interested if either of those are missing.

Unless the car is actually dangerous to drive then no MoT is hardly crime of the century. If they get pulled over, they'll get fined. Otherwise, honestly, there probably are better things for the police to be doing than acting on your grudges.

Can't believe this attitude.
TheQueef · 11/10/2021 11:51

If there were some way of the OP getting action and I knew how i would mention that mike but in my experience (seems yours is the same) reporting no MOT doesn't result in police interest.

And I'm still not saying that that is fine or OK.

mikedyson · 11/10/2021 11:46

@TheQueef

See the bit in brackets, that was the clarification that I was saying in the OPs interest not general interest.
Under what circumstances would you offer different advice?
TheQueef · 11/10/2021 11:42

See the bit in brackets, that was the clarification that I was saying in the OPs interest not general interest.

mikedyson · 11/10/2021 11:42

@jimmyhill

And before anyone else attempts this bit of nonsense, no, lacking an MoT does not invalidate insurance
It doesn't - but the kid I reported for no MOT turned out to be driving with dangerous brakes too which would probably not have thrilled his insurers (if he had insurance).
mikedyson · 11/10/2021 11:40

@TheQueef

That's not what I said *@mikedyson* do you struggle with comprehension?
You said forget it.
hellywelly3 · 11/10/2021 11:39

@mikedyson I honestly think that is what they do. I even said could you not just go round and have a word with them that you’ve had reports about them driving, it might just scare them a little. But they couldn’t even do that. I know a few people have reported it but it’s still not enough. It’s ridiculous.

TheQueef · 11/10/2021 11:37

That's not what I said @mikedyson do you struggle with comprehension?

jimmyhill · 11/10/2021 11:35

And before anyone else attempts this bit of nonsense, no, lacking an MoT does not invalidate insurance

thereisonlyoneofme · 11/10/2021 11:35

Report it on DVLA site. I did this when our neighbors had no MOT and no tax more importantly no insurance. Took a while but car was towed eventually.

jimmyhill · 11/10/2021 11:34

Is it taxed and insured? They might be more interested if either of those are missing.

Unless the car is actually dangerous to drive then no MoT is hardly crime of the century. If they get pulled over, they'll get fined. Otherwise, honestly, there probably are better things for the police to be doing than acting on your grudges.