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Male midwives - aibu

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Ikeasucks · 15/09/2021 11:54

My 27 yr old niece is pregnant and we were discussing the coming birth - she said she would like to put female only midwife on her birthing plan but is worried how the staff, her friends etc will react as one “friend” told her she was being sexist and bigoted for taking that view. Aibu in thinking it’s perfectly fine and understandable for women to want another woman at such a time - it it’s possible

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Tubs11 · 15/09/2021 13:33

I'd want the best midwife, nurse, Dr, consultant to delivery my baby and wouldn't think twice about their gender, too busy pushing, but totally understand why someone might not want a male midwife and that should be respected

DaphneDeloresMoorhead · 15/09/2021 13:33

@AnneLovesGilbert

I had one when I first went in after I called and said my waters had broken. He told me they hadn’t and I’d wet myself. I’ve never wet myself and I was 100% sure my waters had broken as I’d heard a loud pop and got a huge whoosh of fluid down my legs. He didn’t explain why he was sure I was lying but he did ask my husband who was next to me what he thought Hmm

I’m sure there are bad fender midwives too but this particular man stank of misogyny and “what you do you know stupid woman, let’s see what another man thinks” and I still despise him.

My waters had broken, obviously. Twat.

Why on earth might you think your waters had broken at 9 months pregnant ? How silly of you, you silly little woman
Twizbe · 15/09/2021 13:32

@HarrietsChariot

Yes she's a bigot for only wanting a female midwife. It's no different to her only wanting a white doctor or only wanting a male plumber.

You can't pick and choose equality.

It's totally different. I don't know about you, but no plumber I've ever hired had to stick his fingers up my vagina.
yippyyippy · 15/09/2021 13:30

You have to look wider at society and how men treat women and the dynamic there to realise it really is NOT the same as ‘sexism’

Look at what percentage of women have been raped or sexually assaulted by a male. Nearly every single one of us will have been harassed by or made to feel uncomfortable by men’s inappropriate behaviour

Until we live in a society where that isn’t happening there is no way you can even question why a lot of women are not comfortable with a man in intimate vulnerable situations

Pipsquiggle · 15/09/2021 13:29

Is it her 1st baby?

With my first, I might have said I preferred a female, however, I ended up having an emergency c section and there were quite a few men in the theatre.

For my 2nd, I didn't care, just wanted capable professionals. There was a male Dr involved in the end stages of the birth, it didn't bother me in the slightest

ArnoldBee · 15/09/2021 13:29

So I had 2 female student midwives but it was a male doctor who had his hand up there doing things that were very painful so I guess the question becomes how far does this preference go?

TheWoleb · 15/09/2021 13:26

Make sure she also puts down that she doesnt want any students to observe or practice!
I never cared but with my 2nd, I was induced and the midwife came in to check how far along I was. She stood at the curtain and said "would it be ok if a couple of students came in and watched?" I said yes, and in came 6 student; 4 women and 2 men, and then the midwife all squeezed in my curtained cubicle. They all had a good look while she checked and I felt a little bit like an exhibit.

listentomydeclaration · 15/09/2021 13:26

I had female midwives and male doctors looking at my fanny

A male stitched me up and asked my DH "does that look okay" and my DH was like how the fuck should I know? (the male was a different nationality so maybe a husband's opinion matters!)

The point is that there may well be men present whether she likes it or not and that was often the way even before transgender became as common as it is now.

lottiegarbanzo · 15/09/2021 13:25

Men usually choose which GP they want to see for intimate examinations (or request male or female). So do women.

SloopB · 15/09/2021 13:25

I think it's an odd thing for a man to choose. If I'd a choice I'd have chosen only women who had given birth themselves. It's harder to refuse a male consultant because of staffing levels. Women need to feel comfortable to progress properly. If a bloke is going to make that harder then he shouldn't be there. You don't need a reason. Although it's blindingly obvious why quite w few women wouldn't want a random man near her when she's at her most vulnerable.

MitheringMytryl · 15/09/2021 13:25

I would always rather have women doing any sort of intimate medical procedure/examination, but I wouldn't have bothered putting down female only midwives/doctors simply because birth is unpredictable, and hospitals are unpredictable. If something goes sideways and the birth suite is rammed, you get whoever is available and most capable in that moment.

daytripper28 · 15/09/2021 13:25

I had a male midwife at one of my children's birth - he was absolutely excellent.

I had a female midwife on a different one, and she was not great - put me right off in fact.

The sex of the midwife really shouldn't effect how good they are.

IamtheDevilsAvocado · 15/09/2021 13:24

@katedan

What would she do if there was complications and the only doctor available was male? Would she refuse treatment or is she OK with male doctors? I think this is discriminatory and sexist, male midwives are as professional and trained as their female counter parts. We need to get away from gender definitions for jobs.
That's as maybe... But no woman should be made to have a male in her space. Plenty of women have been attacked and a male in a personal space can be trauma triggering
FedUpAtHomeTroels · 15/09/2021 13:22

Mine were birthed abroad by an Ob. First was male and fantastic, second was a female and she was bloody awful.
If she is more comfortable with a female, then she should put it on her plan.

user1496146479 · 15/09/2021 13:21

@noprofessional

Absolutely her choice. I would have refused a male midwife although the issue never came up for me. Honestly, I'd question a man's motivation for becoming a midwife. I find it odd.
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CovidCorvid · 15/09/2021 13:20

@HarrietsChariot

Yes she's a bigot for only wanting a female midwife. It's no different to her only wanting a white doctor or only wanting a male plumber.

You can't pick and choose equality.

No it's really different. Luckily the male midwife I work with doesn't think anyone who declines his care is a bigot. He doesn't take it personally.

There are exemptions from the equality act for personal care (for sex) and I'd certainly say midwifery is personal care. Thankfully women do have a say in who gets to put their fingers in their vagina!

What do you think about women who may have been raped, etc - should they be forced to have examinations done by a man?

Pinkandwhitewafer · 15/09/2021 13:19

I think its fine. I always request a female nurse for smear tests and any form of breast examination etc. Have never been made to feel awkward.

2bazookas · 15/09/2021 13:18

I had one experience with a male midwife; back when they were a very new thing and he was just being trained in a very oldfashioned Maternity hospital in Glasgow, where oldfashioned Matrons ruled with a rod of iron. She came round and asked if I would allow this trainee MW to examine me, which I was perfectly happy to do . Matron lifts my gown to display my belly to display my magnificent linea nigra and asks the MMM
"What do we call this? "
He gasps " Some kind of hideous birthmark! "
Next she invites him to palpate the patient, without speaking to me he plonks his hands on my belly and announces
"She's not letting me examine her, she's as stiff as a board resisting me"
Matron and I say in unison "It's a CONTRACTION".

She took him away after that.

Bumpsadaisie · 15/09/2021 13:18

I didn't think about it ahead of time and was a little surprised that one of the midwives was male.

But when push came to shove (er, literally) he was there sitting next to me and I was very happy to grab his hand and be helped by him! Gender preferences just didn't really matter at that point Grin

TubeOfSmarties · 15/09/2021 13:17

A male midwife would not bother me. It’s a trained medical professional doing their job. I can understand that some women, for a variety of reasons, would prefer a woman. However if you wouldn’t insist on a woman for any other OB/GYN style check or procedure, I don’t know why you’d insist on one as a midwife.

Od130990 · 15/09/2021 13:17

It's perfectly reasonable, no different to only wanting a female nurse doing your smear.
When I did my birthing plan with my twins I did end up letting a male student give me an internal however I did ask him to cut his fingernails beforehand 😂 because they were quite long & really making me queasy.

MelonSurprise · 15/09/2021 13:16

She can request that she wants female only midwives but if things aren't straight forward I don't think she'd care whether the medical staff were male or female. Chances are the doctor (if things aren't straight forward) will probably be a man. When my son got stuck a few months ago I had a male doctor who tried to get him out before they went to forceps, I'm sure you can imagine how he tried to help, I really didn't care and just wanted the baby out safe with least damage to me! It didn't work so I ended up with forceps in theatre where he delivered my baby with a mostly male team. Male anesthetist, male theatre technicians and male recovery nurse there was a lot of other people (not quite sure their role) but only the 2 midwives and pediatrician were female. I could not have cared less nor noticed and I'm pretty sure if I'd have said "no men" I'd have been told well there's no one else on duty. By all means request a female midwife but it might be worth explaining that if things turn into an emergency whether the people who are helping you are male or female becomes insignificant.

bellsbuss · 15/09/2021 13:16

I didn't care , I just wanted my babies delivered safely.

Branleuse · 15/09/2021 13:15

Its absolutely fine and normal to request female only intimate care. I do this.

HarrietsChariot · 15/09/2021 13:15

Yes she's a bigot for only wanting a female midwife. It's no different to her only wanting a white doctor or only wanting a male plumber.

You can't pick and choose equality.

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