Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

C.F Neighbour?/parking.... aibu?

81 replies

Dunkling · 25/08/2021 14:21

I don't think iabu, but at the same time am questioning if I'm petty.

Our house shares a private drive with 2 others. This entire area is owned, not just a right of way, by all 3 houses, equal maintenance etc, and not split down the middle in ownership or anything.

The shared drive after a few metres splits to privately owned drives, side by side, with their garages for us and ok neighbours. It then continues in the opposite direction to house of the C.F's in my mind, whereupon it then enters into their privately owned drive area. This area is 2 parking spaces and a turning area, all within their own land, as without this turning area they would have to reverse all the way out, all along the drive, and down a hill before leaving the drive which is a total blind spot even going forwards. This is because the shared drive area is only one car width, so manouvering is not possible in any way for them. They also have their own car entrance directly from the street on another side of their garden.

Ourselves and ok neighbours are able to turn and manouvre using the shared driveway as our drives lead onto a bend, so providing a swing.

As is usual with this set up, no parking except for quick unloading is allowed as this leaves the drive completely blocked. So actually, ok neighbours are not that ok as they frequently park, let their friends park, have put a skip on the bend with no heads up, park overhanging into the shared area leaving it impossible to turn, wood delivery dumped. So pretty sh!tty neighbours actually!

But, the aibu. House 3, have built a decking /bbq/seating area filling their parking area. They have also extended the house into their turning area, and with an already virtually non existent garden, now have next to no space. They have also built a shed in the gate from the other side of the house, so that is totally blocked.

So, C.Fs have taken to parking on the shared drive outside their boundary as they have run out of space. This doesn't block us as it only leads to them, but due to the hill and length, drive in forwards. Then, they utilize our drive to turn around when leaving. They have also built a storage shed (garden equipment type size) on the shared drive alongside where they park. They are also planning, as their garden is now no longer able to house their car, to build a wall at the end of the drive with just a pedestrian access for them.

We have told them we are not in agreement as this is shared ownership with costs to all.

Day to day it doesn't affect us, but I can't help thinking... "CFs have bought a house with tiny garden made even tinier by more building so decided to remove their parking and turning, claiming the end of the shared land to use as their own personal parking, along with storage shed, and using our personal land to turn instead.

Are they CFs? Am I being petty and need to get a life? And if/when they build a wall making it a dead end, seeing as they park there, and as it will definitely not block any other cars, wibu to park there also on a 1st come basis to p!ss them off and reclaim what is also still ours, something they seem to have forgotten?

C.F Neighbour?/parking.... aibu?
OP posts:
New posts on this thread. Refresh page
Figaroducksandcattos · 27/06/2024 09:36

NeverEnoughPants · 27/06/2024 06:59

Six months? This thread is three years old. Where did the six months come from?

Waiting for their various building and garden works to finish has too that long!

Said nothing while that was ongoing, and half expecting them to do the right thing and vacate when finished.

When it became apparent that wasn’t the case… that was 6 months ago.

viques · 27/06/2024 09:31

Figaroducksandcattos · 27/06/2024 06:12

Sadly, if I drew my diagram now there would be no dog. Our beautiful Goldie left us 2 weeks ago ☹️. Old and knackered and having had a wonderful life, she went everywhere with us, she died naturally at home 💔.

So sorry to hear this.

RIP Goldie.

NeverEnoughPants · 27/06/2024 06:59

Figaroducksandcattos · 27/06/2024 06:19

Idiots are so tone deaf though, not only are we 6 months on and that fecking shed is still there, but they’ve started adding planters!

Six months? This thread is three years old. Where did the six months come from?

SheilaFentiman · 27/06/2024 06:29

Good effort, OP. Sorry about your dog x

Figaroducksandcattos · 27/06/2024 06:19

BruceAndNosh · 26/06/2024 20:37

They need to install one of those fancy car turntables on what's left of their plot. Or possibly at their end of the shared drive after they've bought it from you!

Idiots are so tone deaf though, not only are we 6 months on and that fecking shed is still there, but they’ve started adding planters!

Figaroducksandcattos · 27/06/2024 06:12

viques · 26/06/2024 20:30

Good to hear from you again. Shame you have drunk wine, no way you can move your car now…….

Hope the dog is still with you.

Sadly, if I drew my diagram now there would be no dog. Our beautiful Goldie left us 2 weeks ago ☹️. Old and knackered and having had a wonderful life, she went everywhere with us, she died naturally at home 💔.

ghostyslovesheets · 26/06/2024 20:53

They are CF's - and that diagram deserves and award

bluebeck · 26/06/2024 20:49

That diagram is a classic.

Sorry you have been unwell.

Yeah, fuck em! Keep drinking the wine!

BruceAndNosh · 26/06/2024 20:37

They need to install one of those fancy car turntables on what's left of their plot. Or possibly at their end of the shared drive after they've bought it from you!

viques · 26/06/2024 20:30

Figaroducksandcattos · 26/06/2024 18:58

So, it’s me. Dunkling . New username after I deleted my old account (major mental health crisis). Hunky and dory now.

Until, this early evening.

My car was parked in the entrance to the shed/they think it’s theirs/it’s not theirs, area. Hands up… I now and again do this in a PA reminder it does not belong to them solely.

Since last posting in this thread, I sent a text reminding them to clear their stuff, their shed, and why. Non commital response, excuses, but a vague answer it would be done by spring. It’s June… so I parked there this afternoon.

Knock on the door, neighbour asks me to move my car, I asked why. Neighbour asks again and that I can put my car back once she’s in. I said that was very kind of her 🤷‍♀️, and I’d do it in 5 minutes as I’m was busy cooking.I was given a look that intimated I had 3 heads. So I reiterated 5 minutes. I was then told it’s all about being a considerate neighbour! Lots of flabbergasted, “ I’m sorry, but WHAT!? “ Coming from me. But very proud for me…. No swearing 🤣

So for anyone that invested in this earlier, my car is still there. It will be way way more than 5 minutes. I shut the door, and I’m drinking wine.

Good to hear from you again. Shame you have drunk wine, no way you can move your car now…….

Hope the dog is still with you.

phishy · 26/06/2024 19:11

Cheeky gits!

Are you leaving your car at the bottom of your drive to stop them using it?

And why aren’t bollards an option?

Figaroducksandcattos · 26/06/2024 18:58

So, it’s me. Dunkling . New username after I deleted my old account (major mental health crisis). Hunky and dory now.

Until, this early evening.

My car was parked in the entrance to the shed/they think it’s theirs/it’s not theirs, area. Hands up… I now and again do this in a PA reminder it does not belong to them solely.

Since last posting in this thread, I sent a text reminding them to clear their stuff, their shed, and why. Non commital response, excuses, but a vague answer it would be done by spring. It’s June… so I parked there this afternoon.

Knock on the door, neighbour asks me to move my car, I asked why. Neighbour asks again and that I can put my car back once she’s in. I said that was very kind of her 🤷‍♀️, and I’d do it in 5 minutes as I’m was busy cooking.I was given a look that intimated I had 3 heads. So I reiterated 5 minutes. I was then told it’s all about being a considerate neighbour! Lots of flabbergasted, “ I’m sorry, but WHAT!? “ Coming from me. But very proud for me…. No swearing 🤣

So for anyone that invested in this earlier, my car is still there. It will be way way more than 5 minutes. I shut the door, and I’m drinking wine.

Luckypoppy · 27/08/2021 09:09

I surprised they let them. I'm having an extension built and have to have extra parking added to our drive even though we only have one car. They called it future proofing.

Sadiecow · 26/08/2021 20:35

They are CFs, you are an artist!

Dunkling · 26/08/2021 10:15

Right, thank you you lovely lot.

This has put my mind at rest that they are indeed stealth stealing land grabbing CFs, and I will indeed start to take the fuckers down lol!

Yeah, actually pretty shocking that when I contacted the council, they did nothing (as far as I am aware so far... works still in action) and were happy for them to remove all parking, regardless of our input being deemed a civil case, that our objection to their marked new parking made it clear what they were proposing.

PissedOffNeighbour22
I do do similar and if I’m in the garden and here their approach I suddenly find myself very very busy on our drive, and it is rather funny to see the struggle. But makes it all the more annoying as that shows they know it is out of order.

Rather funny though was the night I was in our open garage, light off, up and over open, to quickly grab dog food, when huge engine noise and lights blinded me full on in the garage entrance. Thought my husband was home. Nope! Vicky Pollard had nothing on that death stare! Grin

OP posts:
buckeejit · 25/08/2021 22:47

Take those fuckers down.

Excellent diagram.

BeggarsMeddle · 25/08/2021 18:19

@myBumJuiceSmellsLikeRoses

Well they can build what they like on their own property. However, if they've built the shed on a shared drive you could insist it's removed.

Is there any way you can stop them turning on your drive?

It may seem a bit "petty" now, but how much more land will they claim? This could cause problems when any of the 3 of you try to sell, so it's in your interest too.

Can you seek legal advice (does your home insurance offer anything like that?, some do).

This is good advice. I'd start by looking at your property deeds.
beastlyslumber · 25/08/2021 18:03

I'm just here to praise your diagram.

YANBU though. Lawyer might be a good idea.

Iwantcauliflowercheese · 25/08/2021 17:58

Building anything on the shared area would definitely cause problems if you or OK ish neighbours wanted to sell. I think planning permission would be required for the wall, so ring the council.

We are lucky that what could be shared areas have been designated to individual properties with just a right of way over them. It's a pity that you don't have this sensible solution.

frerecoler · 25/08/2021 17:49

That is insane! And the council did nothing when you pointed out that they lied on application??

Hankunamatata · 25/08/2021 17:48

I would be contacting a solicitor

RincewindsHat · 25/08/2021 17:48

They clearly think that the shared road area past your garages is really theirs since nobody else technically uses it for access. Another vote here for making them purchase it from you and OK-ish neighbours :)

Leftbutcameback · 25/08/2021 17:44

I can't believe they lied on the planning app as well, that's pretty shocking. I would agree, legal advice from a property lawyer and a stern letter sharpish. I think you'll have to go it alone as your ok-(not really)-ish neighbours aren't bothered. Good luck

AtticusHoysAnus · 25/08/2021 17:38

Great diagram.

I'd put one of those metal lockable bollards on your drive.

Bit of a ball ache driving off, getting out and locking it up but it'll stop them using your space to turn, which is a piss take.

TimeIhadaNameChange · 25/08/2021 17:28

Definitely get legal advice. You don't want your house being devalued by their actions.

We have the opposite yet similar problem. We're the end house, with no other access. The driveway is split but we have right of access over the sections owned by the others. Owner of middle house thinks he can use our section for turning (not necessary) and parking (more necessary but still not on). DP thinks we should let him, I think he's a CF who knows he is, and wish we could fence our land in.

Swipe left for the next trending thread