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'You have broken my heart'

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stepupandbecounted · 13/08/2021 10:33

I have 3 teen dc and live around 100 miles from my parents. Parents are in excellent health, retired for ten years and late sixities. We moved for context 12 years ago for work opportunities.

I had surgery two and a half weeks ago, a gall bladder and bile duct removal, which not the end of the world didn't come at the best time with dc all at home for the summer. It has been a struggle sleeping and quite tricky with dc all at home and no bus service here anymore. I am also have to WFH!!

We went to visit my parents last weekend, dd was telling her gps all about her A levels, how much is riding on them etc with her uni place and she was nervous. Gps wished her good luck, all good.

Fast forward to results day this week, and Dd is over the moon, she gets her grades and we are happy for her. She spends the few hours screaming and laughing down the phone to all of her friends, whilst I drop other dc to clubs and friends houses. I arrived home with balloons and a gift for dd and I drove to her friend's party and sleepover, picking other dc up on the way home and finally arrived home at 6.45pm knackered and sore.

I then realise my parents haven't sent a message, so I text them to say dd has done really well with exams and is overjoyed before trying to make dinner and sort out dc. My mother replies in a slightly hysterical way demanding to know why I haven't texted her before.
I said I haven't had the chance, I have been driving all day and can't text and thought she would know its all over the news and we only spoke about Sunday! I then get a series of abusive messages from her saying she is so angry, I should have contacted them immediately. It looks like they don't care about dd. How dare I not remind her, and I have broken her heart moving away and now 'ripped out her heart again' by not telling her about the exam results Confused

I replied calmly that I can not be expected to remind everyone of everything. I am permanently exhausted and its no big deal, dd is happy not the end of the world.

My mother is beyond furious and is no longer speaking to me.

Have I done something wrong here? She does not have dementia, she has nothing else going on in her life apart from seeing her local friends, I don't think she is being very fair - I have no idea why she didn't remember. I am only just managing as it is.

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mbosnz · 13/08/2021 14:26

Oh well done! Quite frankly, the person who has had their heart broken, OP, is you. I hope you get back to therapy, because it can be very hard to see that what you accepted as being normal, was in fact anything but, and very much not okay.

I hope so much you can start living your life for you, and your DC's. These are the people that deserve your love, your time, your energy and your care.

Luannee · 13/08/2021 14:25

@stepupandbecounted

I have deleted whatsapp!!!!

Messaged the dc to text me instead.

Feeling strangely liberated already, as that is the only way she contacts me (she never calls, and texts cost money)

So I am free!

Well done op!

Leave the ball in DMs court. Don't engage in this frankly absurd childish behaviour. She's an adult woman, it's ridiculous.

And give yourself a break, physically! I had keyhole GB surgery last year and was in bed for a week, then barely hobbling about the 2nd week, I struggled to even get upright with all the incisions! Have a rest!

ny20005 · 13/08/2021 14:23

Fabulous !!!!

stepupandbecounted · 13/08/2021 14:23

I have deleted whatsapp!!!!

Messaged the dc to text me instead.

Feeling strangely liberated already, as that is the only way she contacts me (she never calls, and texts cost money)

So I am free!

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Penistoe · 13/08/2021 14:22

You didn’t move away did you op, you escaped.

thinkingaboutLangCleg · 13/08/2021 14:21

The faux sympathy, the stead fast decision to never ever help me in an emergency are not really the actions of someone really kind are they

This. You could find an excuse for almost all the rest. But ignoring you when you’re ill and recovering from major surgery is disgusting. Don’t waste any more time in her, OP. You have decent people around who love you.

stepupandbecounted · 13/08/2021 14:18

I can see hear her saying if you don't do as I want you to (insert whatever she wanted) you will live to regret it when I die'

She said that on a loop for the first 18 years of my life, looking back it was deeply manipulative thing to say to a small child. Forcing me to do her bidding so I don't have to live with guilt for the rest of my life, it also made me worry she would actually die or was dying....

So now I am sitting here with her ignoring me. I have done what other pp suggested and deleted my messages. If dc were not out, I would turn off whatsapp to stop the torment.

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iloveeverykindofcat · 13/08/2021 14:16

@ny20005 nice crosspost ;)

iloveeverykindofcat · 13/08/2021 14:16

@stepupandbecounted

Twenty years ago she turned up to my wedding in her own wedding dress because her own wedding was not what she wanted at the time, having lost two stone and told me I was looking 'big' on my the morning of my wedding.

Why I am still constantly surprised at her behaviour after that is my own fault. I will never learn.

Easier said than done OP but I think its time to disconnect a bit, emotionally if not literally. This is who she is, and she's unlikely to change now. Our mothers retain a lot of power over our emotions well into our adulthood but there comes a point at which we have to see them flaws and all decide what we will and won't tolerate in terms of boundaries, and what we will and won't let effect us.
ny20005 · 13/08/2021 14:15

@stepupandbecounted

Twenty years ago she turned up to my wedding in her own wedding dress because her own wedding was not what she wanted at the time, having lost two stone and told me I was looking 'big' on my the morning of my wedding.

Why I am still constantly surprised at her behaviour after that is my own fault. I will never learn.

😱

Don't engage any more. I'd block her number & archive WA chat.

She's destroying you & will do this to your dd. I'd be tempted to block her on your dd's device to so she can't try to manipulate her.

Enjoy the break & feel the weight lifted of your shoulders

stepupandbecounted · 13/08/2021 14:14

I am sorry you are going through this coventry and silver and thank you for being so understanding, especially as it sounds like you have had your own journey with your parents. It is hard. Very hard to face up to it squarely. I still want to hide in the belief she is a decent sort really, when I know she has capacity for kindness sometimes, but she chooses when I have (and when i don't) and her choices to withdraw love often come at a moment of proper crisis, like the worst possible situation a person can be in, and she will make it worse by hurting me further by deciding she won't offer love or support. She will go silent instead inflicting even more pain.

I did start therapy and we were talking about my parents, and other things. I stopped because it felt too hard at the time with the other things that were going on at the time, and my kids needed me (MH issues) but I should restart. I would love to feel liberated even from the guilt, and the worry she will die if I don't stay in close contact etc. I know it is messed up.

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Bigboysmademedoit · 13/08/2021 14:09

I also forgot to text my MIL yesterday with DDs
GCSE result and got an angry text late afternoon. I however do not feel guilty. I’m busy and she has had little involvement with my kids - except to gather ‘boasting rights’ with her friends (who are under the impression she’s a very involved GP!). The kids see it and have lost respect/interest, which is sad. They reap what they sew.

stepupandbecounted · 13/08/2021 14:08

Twenty years ago she turned up to my wedding in her own wedding dress because her own wedding was not what she wanted at the time, having lost two stone and told me I was looking 'big' on my the morning of my wedding.

Why I am still constantly surprised at her behaviour after that is my own fault. I will never learn.

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SilverRoe · 13/08/2021 14:07

@stepupandbecounted

That’s the beauty! You DONT have to be! But as long as you’re wishing for everyone to be nice and get along - for her to change basically, and you keep engaging, it will keep happening

Yes I see that, I am quietly hoping for a simple family life where everyone gets along and is civil at least, and that is part of the problem. I keep engaging because I feel like I am being unkind if I don't.

Does that make any sense?
I haven't the heart to ignore her, or anyone.

But I am approaching it from a place of hoping everyone will remain nice to each other, and maybe that is wrong. It is really hard to face the fact my own mother, the person who gave me life may not be a very nice person? It is easier said than done staring at that possibility, because I have always thought deep down she is a really decent person that cares, that but really nothing she does indicates that. The faux sympathy, the stead fast decision to never ever help me in an emergency are not really the actions of someone really kind are they? Sad

fgs this is horrible.

I’m sorry if i made it sound easy, it’s not. It so fucking hard to accept that your family, parents especially, truly do NOT have your best interests at heart and are not very nice really.

That hope that deep down she gets it and deep down she is loving and so on is what keeps you stuck. I needed therapy to accept my mother wasn’t very nice and didn’t actually want good things for me. She loves me in some sort of basic way i’m sure, but it really means nothing if her need to be horrible overrides that.

All i can say is accepting it was painful but life got a lot better after. Still hurts now to not really have a relationship with her, but that pain is like a little flicker compared to the pain she was causing when in my life. Flowers

CoventryAgain · 13/08/2021 14:07

You poor thing. I sympathise so much, going through something similar at the moment myself (have a thread about it). I have blocked my mother and suggest you do the same, even if just for a while.

The more I think about my mother's behaviour towards me, the more I realise that this is not how a loving mother behaves towards her children. I'm a few years older than you and have only realised this in the last few years due to being referred to therapy following a different matter that arose. Luckily I got a really good therapist who drew my attention to the fact that the way I was treated from a very young age was not only not the norm, but it was unacceptable.

Your mother, like mine, only "loves" you conditionally. She has no problem withdrawing her "love" when you "misbehave".

As already suggested, you would probably benefit from therapy and from reading books like Toxic Parents. It is a strange comfort to know you are not alone. So sad that so many of us have toxic parents.

stepupandbecounted · 13/08/2021 14:04

I firmly believe she actually engineered this

I don't know how she could have missed that it was results day, given sky news is on the background constantly in their house.

I think you are right, she does enjoy it because there is nothing else going on, so she can blow this up to be a huge thing and live on it for weeks. Even though she has actually heard from my dd on results day and even if was late it was better late than never. But no, this will be a huge massive family drama that is likely to drag on for months now, if not years. She is never happy unless there is a big problem 'to cope with' No doubt she would have called her sisters, she will be telling everyone that will listen about the latest problem. Nothing is ever private, it will go to the highest bidder so they can peck over my actions. My mother will be lavished with sympathy because her children have moved away, and all indirectly feeds her constant need for attention. That is what it feels like.

It doesn't have to be 'good' attention, any attention whatsoever is welcome. In fact the more dramatic and miserable the better.

Best thing to do is to be nice to her (otherwise I will be accused of being horrible to her if I try and stand up for myself in anyway) step away and leave her to enjoy her moment at our expense. She will be moaning all day to my father no doubt, telling him she means nothing to us etc etc.

This is not about dd, and her wonderful news, that is the saddest part. She has every reason to feel proud of dd, but she won't she will choose the misery instead. As she does every time.

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Bluetrews25 · 13/08/2021 14:04

StepUp, wishing you a smooth recovery going forwards Flowers
And HUGE congratulations to DD Star

Your DM is horrible. She did not forget. She likes to have a stick to beat you with, that's all.
I'd go back into WA and delete the messages I'd sent, if she doesn't want to read them.
I hope you find the strength to go NC.
Sending a sisterly hug.
Hope the sun shines for you when you are away.

Notagain20 · 13/08/2021 14:04

@SlightlyJaded

I'm familiar with this behaviour OP.

I"d be tempted to send one last message - via your DF if you have to - and then block her whilst you are in cornwall.

Mum

It's a shame that this this has escalated to such a drama - especially as this is meant to be about DD celebrating. Nobody is annoyed that you forgot it was results day, but we are all surprised at the nasty turn things have taken and the unnecessary spite directed at me.

DD loves you very much as do I . However, I won't have tolerate you guilt tripping us because you are still - twelve years on - bitter about me moving away for work. I can assure you that DD enjoys being close to you and we would all hate for that relationship to sour because of your misdirected blame.

We are off to Cornwall now. I can't wait to rest up following my surgery and so I'll probably have my phone off for most of the time.

Let's catch up when we're back.

Love you.
Steup x

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Jux · 13/08/2021 14:02

You seem to understand your mother very well; I think talking about it is helping scales to fall, and is bringing you closer to accepting reality. This is great, because then you can make reasonable and rational decisions about how you can deal with her, put together a long term strategy, work our your realistic objectives (perhaps something along the lines of minimising the ability to be hurt by her, minimising her ability to hurt your dcs, whether and how much you want to see her if at all).

I'm so sorry your mother is like this, and sorry your childhood must have been very hurtful so often. Your dad is beyond the pale btw, not much can be said about him, vile. I hope your dh cherishes you. Congratulations on breaking the cycle with your own children, they are lucky to have you. Oh, and huge congratulations to your dd on her results!

Your parents are wrong, were always wrong. You always deserved, do now deserve better.

SlightlyJaded · 13/08/2021 14:01

I'm familiar with this behaviour OP.

I"d be tempted to send one last message - via your DF if you have to - and then block her whilst you are in cornwall.

Mum

It's a shame that this this has escalated to such a drama - especially as this is meant to be about DD celebrating. Nobody is annoyed that you forgot it was results day, but we are all surprised at the nasty turn things have taken and the unnecessary spite directed at me.

DD loves you very much as do I . However, I won't have tolerate you guilt tripping us because you are still - twelve years on - bitter about me moving away for work. I can assure you that DD enjoys being close to you and we would all hate for that relationship to sour because of your misdirected blame.

We are off to Cornwall now. I can't wait to rest up following my surgery and so I'll probably have my phone off for most of the time.

Let's catch up when we're back.

Love you.
Steup x

Whatamess582 · 13/08/2021 13:59

She sounds like a total narcissist. It’s the kind of thing my mum would do/ would have done before I broke contact with her for similar behaviour.

When I got a degree as a mature student she berated me for not showing her my Masters certificate. Despite me having asked her if she wanted to see it…. And her raising am eyebrow as if to say ‘really you think I want to see that’. She also used the words ‘you just keep on breaking my heart’.

My mother is a narcissist and I moved 1000 miles away from her. I used to get postcards through the post that JUST said ‘this is a picture of a Margaret Hepworth In the Tate… what your children are missing living where you do!’ No names no ‘from grandma’ nothing. Just passive aggressive crap.

Do yourself a favour and ignore that shit. Life is too short. YANBU.

Passive

Ormally · 13/08/2021 13:53

It is really hard to face the fact my own mother, the person who gave me life may not be a very nice person? It is easier said than done staring at that possibility, because I have always thought deep down she is a really decent person that cares, that but really nothing she does indicates that. The faux sympathy, the stead fast decision to never ever help me in an emergency are not really the actions of someone really kind are they?

I'm so sorry - it is horrible. People have various parts to them and it's likely that part of her is indeed the decent person that cares, but other parts expect that a relationship with you never changes, and that she will always be top dog in it. In reality, you are a mother now and your daughter has every right to your time, consideration, etc., as well as your own self needing some self-care and recovery time.

I think it's when you get the Mum hat that you start to see dissonances between your understanding of something and your own mother's, either in the here and now, or from years ago. My DM has had a lot of fallings-out, some permanent, with her family in the past, before I was born. I didn't think anything of it until I started to see the resentful side of her, that the DGC bring out in some ways and did so even from when they were tiny and immune to 'atmosphere'.

Being sad about this is ok. No easy answers, no need for a quick fix, and not all down to you.

PrincessNutella · 13/08/2021 13:51

I hate the idea that people are pressuring the OP to text the mother because it only takes 30 seconds to text. I hate texting and I hate the thought of being beholden to announce events in real time. Some people are good at multitasking and breaking up their activities into jumpy little units, some people can only be present in one place and one activity at a time. It's not as if she waited a month to tell her parents. And if everyone in the country knew that this news was coming out, they could have asked the girl or her mother directly.

Shellfishblastard · 13/08/2021 13:50

Mixed feelings. Your mum could have contacted you and DD. But equally I know some people her age and they might have been waiting for you to call them - I appreciate in this situation your mum forgot.

My mum would have been one of the first people I would have called - but that’s because we are close. So maybe your mum is just sad that you aren’t.

She’s obviously being a bit unreasonable in her reaction, but I suspect her emotions are a bit all over the place. She wants you near and she’s showing that in the wrong way

Killahangilion · 13/08/2021 13:49

Has your mother ever worked?
Her dreadful attitude to something so mundane as an adult child moving away is batshit, to be honest. Especially as you’re only about 100 miles away. It’s hardly abroad.

I can’t believe you’ve accepted her awful treatment of you for this long. How on earth you haven’t told her to F.O. before now, I don’t know.

You’re a positive saint!!

I say this as an older woman with adult D.C. and GDC and we live abroad from them.

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