Men in lingerie shops

Where i work a man saying he is presenting as a woman can walk right into the changing rooms .
And if the girls or women there dont like it, they move out, not him.

Oh that's a shame. I was interested to hear your views, because they were unusual to me.

Narrow minded, sexist.

Feminist views are dangerous.

Also lesbians are as lecherous as men and tribes in Africa.

I would have liked to hear more so that's a shame.

Even more interesting!

'CULTURE of tribes in Africa,'

Africa eh? Big place. Vast differences between countries and within countries.

Which tribes do you have in mind?

Please don’t quote me again, I don’t wish to interact with you any longer.

Narrow minded and totally sexist and feminist views are dangerous. I’d rather steer clear of you, thank you.

@NiceGerbil

You have some very narrow minded and dangerous views. I won’t be interacting with you again. Have a nice life.

I was referring to the CULTURE of tribes in Africa, not wherever you think I mean.

So because I’m saying that some CULTURES (I didn’t say Countries!) don’t see them sexually, I’m wrong, because they have sex and get married to children? Can you pretty please tell my brain damaged mind how the fudge you decided that?

'Completely dismissing anyone else who also have a thing about breasts… wait, if they’re a woman it isn’t the same? Why not?'

I think you could have a think and maybe a read etc and draw a conclusion yourself?

[quote Beowulf1976]@justasking111

“ We also come into season every 28 days”

As do many mammals, well, they have seasons, (not sure on cycle timeline as I’ve not looked) or where they’re “on heat” etc… not sure on your point?[/quote]
I'm sure you're not Beowulf.

Certainly the marriage as soon as puberty makes sense then. Those girls come into season and are certainly capable of being bred.

Like I say. Unusual perspectives.

Some of the posts on here have very unusual perspectives.

It's certainly an interesting read.

You said when men behave, then change can happen.

Completely dismissing anyone else who also have a thing about breasts… wait, if they’re a woman it isn’t the same? Why not?

@justasking111

“ We also come into season every 28 days”

As do many mammals, well, they have seasons, (not sure on cycle timeline as I’ve not looked) or where they’re “on heat” etc… not sure on your point?

Into season?

Jesus.

[quote kowari]**@Beowulf1976
As far as I know, we are the only species with permanent breasts. I think that suggests that they are not only for feeding our young.[/quote]
We also come into season every 28 days

So in summary, I think it's:

Teenage girls are often embarrassed about their developing bodies because women sexualise the girls.

It's wrong to point out that loads of blokes are pretty obsessed with breasts, and the way some stare, leer, comment etc at underage girls, because of lesbians.

And some cultures don't sexualise breasts so UK women and girls should stop seeing breasts as something that draws unwanted attention from.. not allowed to say who... Because those women and girls are... They should pretend that's not what happens here. Or something. Oh, and lesbians.

I understand where you're coming from I think.

Beowulf that's not what the OP said at all!

Having said that.
You're not aware that loads of men fancy girls that age?
Maybe you don't remember Sam fox. The countdown to 16 for a female actor (can't remember who).
Poor old Mandy Smith.
Old male stars shagging underage 'groupies'.
Certainly girls in many countries are deemed marriageable when they hit puberty. Maybe some of the countries you have used as examples of breasts not being seen sexually..
In the USA child marriage still happens.
Underage girls being sexually exploited all over the place...

But it's WOMEN who are sexualising girls. Right-ho.

And yes lesbians are women. Why you think that means they would behave like lecherous men is beyond me.

I suggested that assuming the men on the sofa are there to letch over women and especially teen girls, is actually sexualising the innocence of a teenage girl needing a bra.

Like I say.

It's not the fault of girls and women being self conscious / ambivalent / disliking their breasts

When in our culture

Loads of men see any sign of boob meaning the girl is now a sex object for leering, staring, commenting etc irrespective of age.

That very large breasts are a long time magnet for 'jokes', comments, grabbing in the pub etc

Etc etc.

It's a reaction to the societal view that (and often true) men are pretty obsessed with boobs.

If and when they stop it then we can have some change.

PS. I wish I’d added this before hitting “post message”, I am severely disabled which is why he has to clean me, we’re not into anything untoward. 🤪🤣

[quote kowari]**@Beowulf1976
I'd say they are a signifier of fertility or sexual maturity. I don't know. Why do you think we have them all the time if they are just for breastfeeding? I find them a nuisance myself.[/quote]
I perhaps chose wrongly in calling them baby feeders, I hadn’t pondered why no other species keeps them, as I’ve never seen any other species close up enough to notice.

My point is now totally screwed by you picking up on me supposedly thinking they’re merely baby feeders.

I was being polite…

I’m the Queen of Prude, so if I can name a body part differently to what it is, I’m doolally happy.

I’m 45 years old and whilst my downstairs would probably more closely resemble a dried out dilapidated squid, I still call it my “fairy”.

(which has my fiancé almost dying from oxygen starvation, from laughing so hard, when he has to clean it for me, and he recalls that I must think it is sweet, tiny, pretty, innocent, like a fairy)

My point still remains, that other cultures don’t perve over them, even if they are there always, for sexual pleasure for both parties.

It's not women who 'make s big deal' out of breasts fgs.

Have you never met men?!

Tell you what if you can get men here to stop fetishising etc girls and women's breasts then and only then maybe developing girls will not be embarrassed about them.

Deal?

I agree with @Beowulf1976 too - if we don’t make a big deal of this, neither will others, or our daughters.

Kowari are you heading down the route of that bloke on the telly who said women have breasts all the time because they look like arses and men like that...!

@Beowulf1976
I'd say they are a signifier of fertility or sexual maturity. I don't know. Why do you think we have them all the time if they are just for breastfeeding? I find them a nuisance myself.