WTF? Strangers Making Babies TV show

The comments on here have made me cry. I am desperate to be a mummy. Its totally consuming my life. Unless you are infertile or know you can't have children the conventional way, you have NO idea how all consuming it is.

One of the women involved is on this thread
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/telly_addicts/4202713-Strangers-Making-Babies?msgid=105925860#105925860

[quote MrsGogolsGumbo]@FightingTheFoo That's pretty homophobic comparing gay men who want to be fathers (nothing wrong or dangerous inherent there) with blind peoplewho want to pilot and people with Parkinson's wanting to be surgeons which are both dangerous for obvious reasons! [/quote]
And as PP said - there is danger to the woman giving birth. But who gives a fuck about women eh? We're just walking wombs to be used at will.

[quote MrsGogolsGumbo]@FightingTheFoo That's pretty homophobic comparing gay men who want to be fathers (nothing wrong or dangerous inherent there) with blind peoplewho want to pilot and people with Parkinson's wanting to be surgeons which are both dangerous for obvious reasons! [/quote]
That's patently not the analogy I was making but well done for getting my post removed.

My point was many people are limited by biology - that doesn't give them a "right" to things that other people without that biological limit have.

Gay men cannot give birth. That isn't homophobic and if you think it is you've lost your marbles.

@naunet

The point being woman can't have children without the sperm

These people are both wanting the same thing and neither can naturally have child without the other!

I don't understand why do many people think it's not OK for a man to use a woman for a child but everyone seems fine with a woman using a man!

Obviously the woman has more risks but they are consenting to this just like I consented to having my child

How miserable for the child and selfish and disrespectful of the aspiring ‘co-parents’.

How can a broadcaster ethically justify treating the creation of a child, which will need coparenting with that stranger for that baby’s whole life, with less thought than getting a bloody lockdown cockapoo. Christ.

I’ve absolutely nothing against actual coparenting- which has nothing to do with meeting someone off a gameshow. It looks like fucking hard work and involves endless compromises when it’s done with the kids’ interests central to it. It has none of the perks of parenting within a partnered relationship and lots of new stresses of its own involved. I have a lot of respect for people who can do it.

But to the poster that said they would rather go down the sperm doner route and do it alone what about the man in this that also wants to be a parent? They don't have that choice

It’s too bad! Not everything has to be “fair” for men (it’s certainly not for women), that’s biology. Women are the ones who get pregnant and take on all the risks that go with that, they shouldn’t be banned from using a sperm diner just because you feel it’s not fair to men who also want children.

I was with my ex husband for 18 years. We had 3 children together. He's not a bad man, and is a good father. However, he can be a difficult man and it's not just the co-parenting that can be a challenge, it's having him in my life full-stop!
I thought I knew him inside out and could trust him with my life. We had history, which these people will not. But people change. I'd advise these numpties to be wary of who they choose to have children with. Actually, I'd advise anyone the same! You're connected through your kids for life.

[quote MrsGogolsGumbo]@FightingTheFoo That's pretty homophobic comparing gay men who want to be fathers (nothing wrong or dangerous inherent there) with blind peoplewho want to pilot and people with Parkinson's wanting to be surgeons which are both dangerous for obvious reasons! [/quote]
There is danger to the surrogate

@FightingTheFoo That's pretty homophobic comparing gay men who want to be fathers (nothing wrong or dangerous inherent there) with blind peoplewho want to pilot and people with Parkinson's wanting to be surgeons which are both dangerous for obvious reasons!

The need for some people to have a child can really warp their minds and they will pretty much do anything to have one
There has been cases of babies stolen from the mothers womb
Women lying about contraception
Alot of people need help to conceive with IVF for example and spend their life savings to do so
Some use friends as sperm/egg doners or strangers

This show has consenting adults making a baby
It may or may not be beneficial that they are not in a relationship that would of course totally depend on the people, but at least they know where they stand from day one

And where children are concerned, maybe we should be a bit judgemmetal

The only way for me to be able to have a child is to use sperm donor. I watched this programme but found it very cringe. I have actually considered co parenting with a gay single man or gay couple, I wouldn't with a straight man as they can have the opportunity to have a child the more conventional way. However for me personally I think going it alone is more suited to my personality.

Having a child is not a human right.

No one is “owed” the opportunity to be a parent.

And it will be for the benefit of a TV show. There are few rules and regulations that govern how participants are treated. The goal is to make television, not to help the people involved.

I think if you have two consenting adults who want the same thing in life and it hasn’t happened traditionally - why not?!

It makes me feel equally annoyed to read so many judgmental views re other people’s lives. The gay men on this programme have dreamt of being fathers but have not had the opportunity because of their sexuality. Not everyone has a friend who is willing to co-parent with them. This programme has made them an introduction to a woman who also wants to be a mother but hasn’t met a suitable Male partner. From what I could see, a combination of these people as parents would be a great way to be brought up as they came across as responsible, kind, loving, intelligent, head screwed on people. There would be no risk of an acrimonious break up, all arrangements would be decided from the start and the child would feel very loved and wanted by both. That is probably better than a very high percentage of other children’s upbringings. I really don’t agree with people’s narrow minded views of what makes an ideal home. So many traditional families are dysfunctional that this arrangement almost feels better to me.

I won't be watching this! But to the poster that said they would rather go down the sperm doner route and do it alone what about the man in this that also wants to be a parent? They don't have that choice
Although I don't agree with this I do think that having 2 loving parents who are together or not is definitely a positive!
Many people have babies from one night stands! Some woman who accidentally fall pregnant keep the baby even if the man doent want to and some people are meeting sperm diners off the Internet who go around getting loads of people pregnant so although I don't agree I don't think it's the worst way to have a baby if your set on it

I'll be watching. It's just about people who want to co-parent with someone they're not in a relationship with. I don't see what's wrong with that, it's just a different type of family.

I'm not sure we should normalise different types of families. I think this is the root cause of a lot of issues e.g. how many parents separate and remarry and have a few more kids. Babies should only be knowingly concieved in happy stable long term relationships. It should be the sad exception when this breaks down. It's not ok for children to have two homes and be passed about and parented differently at weekends to week days. Its terrible when this happens from a relationship breakdown but one would hope that if those parents had once been happy and close they would have a baseline of ideals for how to parent more often than not. Just choosing to have a child in a relationship that might not last or not in a relationship at all where "pass the baby" is a planned Activity from the off is abhorrent.

I say this as someone that is pro same sex parents and single adopters. I'm not only in favour of heterosexual nuclear family but I have a huge problem with an intentional game of pass the child.

Making babies purely for entertainment purposes absolutely disgusting! Plus if they don't get the ratings the programme including child will be dropped like hot potato.

Modern life - slavery is abhorrent.
Also modern life - let’s make a programme about 2 strangers having a baby together!

The increasing commodification of children is absolutely terrifying! How can anyone think this is ok ?