To not expect neighbour to use washing machine overnight

[quote PattyPan]@user1467048527 I used to live in Germany and it wouldn’t be acceptable there. Germans are very particular about noise disturbance, even during the daytime on Sundays![/quote]
Sounds a good policy. why have people become so selfish in the Uk?

'my neighbour is banging the drums right next to my bedroom wall at 3am'
'what do you expect? you live in a terrace house'
'my neighbour's music is so loud it is vibrating my walls'
'that's what you get when you live in a terrace house!'

I expect to hear some noise but more so I expect to live next door to people who, like me, understand that you can't shout/holler/make excess noise 24/7 because... you live in a terrace house!

@user1467048527 I used to live in Germany and it wouldn’t be acceptable there. Germans are very particular about noise disturbance, even during the daytime on Sundays!

It's a while since I spent time in Germany and Switzerland, but they had strict rules about what was and wasn't acceptable.

If you grow up with these rules, which are ultimately for the benefit of all, you probably behave in a more community-minded way.

The reason you can expect this sort of thing in a terraced house or flat is because of the attitude on this thread.

It would never even occur to me that keeping someone else up at night could be ok other than for genuinely unavoidable reasons like babies crying.

People can't live easily together if everyone does just what they like. I always thought l and take means you have to put up with reasonable noise and you can make it yourself, but it also means not being excessive and minimising noise as much as possible. Turns out that for others it means not inconveniencing yourself at all and presumably not expecting any favours from neighbours either.

These views are clearly incompatible.

I wonder if this is the same in Germany, where a PP mentioned neighbours can generally resolve things themselves. My experience of living in a different European country was that there was more sense of community and consensus on how to behave than there is here in the UK.

I think your neighbours do seem quite reasonable

I disagree. They stopped for two weeks then put it on to finish at 1am.

I would have thought it's unusual for people to regard 1am as bedtime.

YANBU.

I rented a flat where the upstairs neighbours ran their washing machine overnight and the noise was horrendous. They did it because they were on the Economy 7 tariff, so saved them money. They also had a toddler and a baby, so lots of laundry - it was on most nights.

I asked them twice to do it earlier, and each time they did for a while, but then slipped back to putting it on around 11-12 pm. When they started doing it again for the third time, I went and knocked on their door, and made the husband come downstairs to hear what it sounded like in my bedroom. He was horrified and very apologetic. It sounded much worse in my flat than in theirs, apparently, and once he'd heard it for himself they stopped doing it.

The council here take the view that, while doing laundry isn't a noise nuisance in itself, it is if it's done late at night or early in the morning. They will send letters out to tenants about it and giving hours when it's considered acceptable. The EHO who deals with noise nuisance takes the same line.

HA's are something of a lottery when it comes to noise nuisance, and ime the HA's give their housing/ASB officers a lot more autonomy about what they do and don't take action about.

I'd report in a heartbeat I'm afraid, but then lack of sleep turns me into a deranged monster, so my responses may not reasonable or moderate. Or I'd move, no matter how skint it left me.

I think your neighbours do seem quite reasonable, your DH asked them to stop running the machine in the middle of the night and they complied with his request.

If the machine was starting at midnight previously, they probably assumed that you are still up at that time so thought by bringing it forward to 10pm it would be finished by the time you go to bed, therefore would not be an issue.

Assuming they are running it at night to save money then I think it's unreasonable for you to insist they run it outside of the cheap time, however it still might be worth having a chat with them. 3 hours seems a very long cycle for someone who is trying to save money.

[quote thosetalesofunexpected]**@LaBellina

"You don't get to dictate when I do my Laundrey"

@LaBellina
Its called being a Consirdate Neighbours.!

You sound like you could be someone's idea of a Anti social Neighbour.![/quote]
You on the other hand, sound like a very lovely person .

Move. Unfortunately this is what you get in a terraced house. You can't tell your neighbours what to do!

It’s tricky to not use washing machine or tumble dryer only when home and awake. Until recently I used to work 7am-7pm, so out 6.30am -7.30/8pm. I would be knackered and go to bed around 10pm. That leaves very little time mon-fri for people to use machine if I full time work with commute.
We mainly washed laundry on weekend as was just dh and I, but now with baby that would be tricky

What kind of washing machine and dryer are they using?! Or how thin are you walls?

YABU I would think without knowing the above.

I have a 1600 spin washer, and a 9kg dryer that is on most nights. My washer is in the kitchen which shares a wall with my neighbor, and my dryer is on the other wall which is against my other neighbor. The set ups in their house are similar and we never hear theirs on, night or day. Our bedrooms are directly above and we only hear a gentle hum of the dryer.

Used to live in a flat that all was all electric and it cost a bomb to run washing machine during the day but pennies at night. We did only have a 1400 spin, but used it every night as did my upstair neighbours. We could hear it but again it was only a low noise.

We are private renters and I find your need to mention their housing situation quite odd in this case. Do you not like social housing, do you believe someone who owned the house wouldn't have the cheek to disturb your sleep?

I get that it’s annoying but they’re probably running it at night because the electricity is cheaper for them - it’s January and everyone is skint in January so they probably need to.

I really get that it’s annoying but I also don’t think you can force them to change

For the amount of tumble dryers that have caught fire i would speak to them and let the washing machine slide but insist that they do not use the tumble dryer unless someone is home and awake. It is such a huge risk

I think you need to move to a detached property if the sound of your neighbours just going about living their lives bothers you this much.

@hellejuice91 not necessarily. The neighbours who use their washing machine in the middle of the night complained as I had a shopping delivery at 10pm last week. Some people are just very self centred.

YANBU plus running washing machines, dishwashers overnight is a fire hazard.

www.cheshirefire.gov.uk/public-safety/home-safety/washing-machine-and-dishwasher-fire-safety

My friend is a firefighter and said it's one of the main reasons they go out to fires.

Maybe lead with this?

YABU
I do my laundry around my work, sometimes thats day, some its night
I would laugh if my neighbours wanted me to do washing on their terms in my own house

Op, the mistake you made with the thread was to mention HA.

Post again in a few weeks/months time and see how different the responses are

Move.

YABVU.