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To not expect neighbour to use washing machine overnight

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BornInTheWrongCentury · 17/01/2021 09:39

Just that really. Over the last couple of months our neighbours started using their washing machine/tumble dryer overnight, it was going on on at about midnight and stays on till around 3am.

My husband asked a them politely a few weeks ago when he saw them outside if they’d mind changing the time they have it on as it really disturbs us. We’re in a mid terraced house and they are the end of the terrace. Their kitchen is below our bedroom. The previous occupants took out a wall in their kitchen that separated the kitchen from their hallway so it’s open planned now so all sound from their house is amplified now anyway and noise seems to travel up the wall into our bedroom.

After my husband mentioned it to them they stopped for a couple of weeks but now the noise has started again as they are putting a wash on at about 10pm and it finishes at 1am.

It’s really upsetting me that I can’t go to bed and read/fall asleep in peace until at least 1am now.

If it’s relevant we own our house and their house is social housing. They are the end of the terrace so if I complain to the council or their housing association they will know it’s me. They are the kind of couple who seem ok as long as you’re on the right side of them but they are rather loud and look very intimidating and to be honest I don’t want to make things worse or get into an argument with them.

They are pretty good neighbours apart from this issue as in the only other noise we hear is their children (they have very screechy, door slamming children but I can cope with that during the day!) They don’t have parties or play thumping music - it’s just the issue with not being able to go to sleep when I want to. I don’t know if I’m just being over sensitive where I so tired.

What would you do?

YABU - just be grateful it’s nothing worse than a washing machine and try to ignore it/go to bed later when you know you’ll fall straight to sleep

YANBU - be brave and speak to them again asking them to not use after 11pm and complain to the council if they refuse?

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Mally2020 · 18/01/2021 22:01

if its persistent noise effecting your right to quiet of enjoyment you caan get a noise abatement order

Roadhouse111 · 18/01/2021 21:58

I can't believe the amount of people who run their machines and go to bed. A close friends machine went on fire, thank God it was during the day and she was able to get a fire extinguisher on it on tine but it destroyed a good part of her kitchen. I wouldn't even let a cycle go on for an hour after I go to bed, so unbelievably dangerous and irresponsible.

OP I feel for you too, I've had neighbours similar, not bad enough to warrant a council, but everything they did (the husband was an insomniac) was heard at 2am, all through the night.
We now live on a detached house, and it's heaven not having to hear him running up and down stairs, slamming doors and pissing every single night.

Norwayreally · 18/01/2021 21:46

I honestly wouldn’t mind this but I have a baby and toddler so I’m used to white noise machines which are far more intrusive Grin.

I do run my machine at night sometimes, it’s honestly the only way I can get through the mountain of laundry at times.

Vinomummyinlockdown · 18/01/2021 21:44

YANBU. They really can’t wash before 10pm?! Come on! The responses on here 🙄🙄🙄
Why should you get earplugs?! Washing all hours when living in close proximity is not on.

Liana2021 · 18/01/2021 21:38

I always put my washing machine during the night and sleep through it.
I’m so surprised that you even mentioned it to your neighbours TBH. I understand you’re trying your luck here but it’s unreasonable to tell them when to use their appliances. Maybe that’s the only time where she finds time to load it after the kids are in bed? Maybe they just unload it in the morning as part of their routine?
It must be incredibly loud though for you to have sleep disturbance over it. Does your DH have the same annoyance at it or is it maybe an overreaction (quite natural) of something that annoys you?

Tigerzmum · 18/01/2021 21:31

I feel for you. YANBU, however, it's just one of those things about living in a terraced house.

It would greatly upset me too, I think I have an element of autism where persistent invoking of any of my five senses greatly irritates me...., well enough about me, I'd buy 2 bottles of wine, arrive on their doorstep, (with DH for backup and security), and open up the topic on a very friendly footing. -As, they do sound reasonable, it may work! Smile.

BornInTheWrongCentury · 18/01/2021 21:13

Wow this thread has certainly shown how divided opinion is on this subject!

Reading some of the responses here has made me realise how lucky I am compared to some of you who have it much worse (and how lucky I am not to live next to some of you who sound like you’d be absolute nightmares to live next door to!)

Last night I tried listening to white noise, I didn’t like it at all as it didn’t drown out the noise and felt like it was just adding another layer of noise. I don’t really like headphones, they irritate after a while so I’m not sure how I’d get on with earplugs all night. I’ve been looking online but there are so many to choose from and I’m not in a position to waste money on trying different ones. I’m also worried about sleeping through the alarm/not hearing ds during the night if he gets up needing the toilet or feels unwell.

I have convinced dh to turn our bed around tomorrow for a couple of nights so our feet are against the wall as I’m absolutely exhausted and really do need to sleep. The anticipation of knowing I won’t sleep now is stressing me out so much. The room will look very weird and we’ll have to climb over things to get into bed but I don’t care. He’s a bit huffy about it as the noise doesn’t bother him as much as me now it finishes earlier because he’s off work and quite happy to sit and watch a film downstairs till 1am and then go to bed. I am normally exhausted by 11pm (ongoing autoimmune & hormone issues)
I told him It’s either that or I will have to start sleeping downstairs on the sofa and he’ll have to go up and listen to the noise droning away and try to get sleep like I do. He will also have to deal with me being grumpy and tired constantly too.

We are home at the moment due to the pandemic but will both be going back to work once the schools open again so I will try to cope with the situation until then as at least I will have the excuse then that we’d really like them to finish by 11pm as we need to get to bed at an earlier time.

If I see either of them outside in the meantime and have the opportunity to mention it in a friendly way I will, but I genuinely am so tired, and due to tiredness feeling really emotional at the moment I don’t think I’d cope well if they were to respond to me in the way some of you have. I would literally end up a sobbing anxious mess and it would stress me out even more.

I can honestly say that I am really surprised and disappointed in some of the attitudes on here. I could understand being told I’m over reacting because I’m tired but I genuinely can’t understand how anyone could be so selfish to know they are causing someone sleep deprivation or stress and not care at all. So many of you have such an I don’t care about anyone else but myself attitude. It’s so sad Sad

On the other hand lots and lots of you have been so lovely, and helpful, and it’s so nice to know that there are so many lovely, kind, considerate people out there too!

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samqueens · 18/01/2021 21:06

I don’t know if this has been said by PP as (apologies) I haven’t read the whole thread. But I’ve read quite a few pages and people mentioning the cost of running machines at different times of day... can I also add to that the current COVID/school closure situation?! No idea what your work/childcare situation is (or theirs) but I have no idea how everyone is managing to stay on top of cleaning and laundry while also homeschooling and wfh. Appreciate that it’s really fortunate to be able to wfh, but with my whole family at home all day the wear and tear on the place is awful and the laundry is something I can get on with in the evening/late at night unlike, say, hovering... so I am running the machine much later than I normally would largely for that reason. If they changed their pattern for a couple of weeks but have recently started washing late at night again it could be to do with the logistics forced on us all by COVID?!

user1467048527 · 18/01/2021 21:06

@Brockaslass - interesting. My council did intervene re washing machines on at night. It was part of a (much) bigger picture with our neighbours and I'd never have involved them about that alone, but when I told the woman from the anti-social behaviour team we were assured very clearly that it wasn't on and she spoke to them.

pollymere · 18/01/2021 21:03

It could be economy 7 but often you realize you need stuff late and need to put a wash on. Whether they own their home or not is irrelevant here. It sounds like you just have ridiculously thin walls as we have a very thin wall between us and next door and I've never heard theirs.

bruffin · 18/01/2021 21:00

The economy rates for storage heaters not for washing in the middle of the night.
I had economy 7 and lived on a flat years ago, wouldnt dream of using a washing machine in the middle of the night if o new it disturbed my neighbours

Brockaslass · 18/01/2021 20:27

YABU

It's often far too expensive to run washers dryer if the house is on a two rate metre a d that's probably why they do it overnight. My lower rate kicks in at 10 and finishes at 6 I do all my washing drying etc at night. I couldn't afford to pander to a neighbour, a washing machine is an essential so evening you were to complain to the council or anti social behaviour team they'd tell you it's within their rights to wash at a time like that and it's not considered excessive noise. I know this from experience because our neighbour in last property complained, she tried all avenues to sort it out and stop us doing it but we couldn't afford too. Council and anti social behaviour team backed us all the way. We ended up moving and hard the last laugh when the property was bought by a private landlord and turned into a laundret. That family could be genuinely struggling and unable to wash at other times. Energy company's provide economical rates for those who wash at night. Eventually everyone will do this because it's cheaper to do.

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LovelyIssues · 18/01/2021 19:46

YANBU! That would be so annoying and so unnessecary

PinkyParrot · 18/01/2021 19:45

I wonder if it is the vibration of the spin which is worst. Perhaps you could see if they could put some rubber (or similar) matting between the machine and the wall (this is probably the wall your bedroom adjoins).That might help.
Offering to put that in (or similar sound reducing stuff) might be acceptable to them.
It's not necessarily to save money - it might be they don't want the noise of the machine through the day if they are listening to tv etc so run it at night - they obviously can't hear it.

MaLarkinn · 18/01/2021 19:36

@EmmaWithTheGreatHair wouldn’t dream of it if i lived in a terrace! i have lovely neighbours, we’ve lived together with no problem for almost 15 years Smile

EmmaWithTheGreatHair · 18/01/2021 19:33

@MaLarkinn thank goodness you’re not in the middle of a row of terraces! Grin joking apart though, that’s fine if you’re in a detached house but it wouldn’t be otherwise.

MaLarkinn · 18/01/2021 19:30

@EmmaWithTheGreatHair i should mention i live in a detached house Smile

MaLarkinn · 18/01/2021 19:29

@woodhill i like everyone off the floor so they’re not coming behind me undoing it all. i have four children, did that.

EmmaWithTheGreatHair · 18/01/2021 19:24

Wow @MaLarkinn 3am! Confused

woodhill · 18/01/2021 19:21

@MaLarkinn

you’d hate me op as i stay up late on sundays cleaning and as hoovering is the last thing i do i’m sometimes hoovering at three in the morning.
Why though?
Twillow · 18/01/2021 19:19

I do this as I have economy seven, but use a timer so it starts a couple of hours before I get up. I wouldn't want it rumbling away in my own house when everyone has only just dropped off. A lot of machines have this function.

Santatizer · 18/01/2021 19:17

Can't believe the amount of people who think YABU. You're not. It is totally unacceptable to put your washing machine on until 1am in a terraced house. Not ok.

teachmehow14 · 18/01/2021 19:14

It is annoying but I think you’re being unreasonable. Growing up my mum worked until late and would only be able to get the washing done when she got in later in the evening. Sometimes this meant running the dryer throughout the night so that our school uniforms were dry. Neighbour lent out of her window one night and started banging on ours with a broom to complain about the noise, my mum made it clear that she was only doing the washing/drying then because that was the only time she could and actually the neighbour was apologetic and didn’t complain about it again.

MaLarkinn · 18/01/2021 19:14

you’d hate me op as i stay up late on sundays cleaning and as hoovering is the last thing i do i’m sometimes hoovering at three in the morning.