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To not expect neighbour to use washing machine overnight

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BornInTheWrongCentury · 17/01/2021 09:39

Just that really. Over the last couple of months our neighbours started using their washing machine/tumble dryer overnight, it was going on on at about midnight and stays on till around 3am.

My husband asked a them politely a few weeks ago when he saw them outside if they’d mind changing the time they have it on as it really disturbs us. We’re in a mid terraced house and they are the end of the terrace. Their kitchen is below our bedroom. The previous occupants took out a wall in their kitchen that separated the kitchen from their hallway so it’s open planned now so all sound from their house is amplified now anyway and noise seems to travel up the wall into our bedroom.

After my husband mentioned it to them they stopped for a couple of weeks but now the noise has started again as they are putting a wash on at about 10pm and it finishes at 1am.

It’s really upsetting me that I can’t go to bed and read/fall asleep in peace until at least 1am now.

If it’s relevant we own our house and their house is social housing. They are the end of the terrace so if I complain to the council or their housing association they will know it’s me. They are the kind of couple who seem ok as long as you’re on the right side of them but they are rather loud and look very intimidating and to be honest I don’t want to make things worse or get into an argument with them.

They are pretty good neighbours apart from this issue as in the only other noise we hear is their children (they have very screechy, door slamming children but I can cope with that during the day!) They don’t have parties or play thumping music - it’s just the issue with not being able to go to sleep when I want to. I don’t know if I’m just being over sensitive where I so tired.

What would you do?

YABU - just be grateful it’s nothing worse than a washing machine and try to ignore it/go to bed later when you know you’ll fall straight to sleep

YANBU - be brave and speak to them again asking them to not use after 11pm and complain to the council if they refuse?

OP posts:
Terminallysleepdeprived · 17/01/2021 11:07

I am torn, I am mid terrace and I work full time so I often use my machines at night, my dryer is in the old outhouse space before the bathroom so there is nothing above it so as far as I am aware it doesn't bug anyone else. I check with one neighbour as she is lovely but the other one I don't as he is a massive twat and I have had to out up with parties til 2am during lockdown and endless rows between him and his wife and their daughter. Like full blown screaming for hours and the language is hideous. My 7 year old has learnt some fantastic words as a result. Their dogs bark constantly and are shut out pretty much 24/7 and they rarely clean up so it stinks of shit in the summer. Frankly if the washing machine and dryer are disturbing them I am calling it even.

However @borninthewrongcentury perhaps once covid is done you could invite them to hear it from your bedroom, they probably don't realise how bad it is. But just have a chat with them. Explain how disruptive it is and ask them if there is anything they can do to lessen the noise, some lino under the machine maybe?

You can only ask, and if that fails then I think you need to invest in either some sound deadening underlay for your house or white noise machines etc to try and help you tune it out.

torquewench · 17/01/2021 11:06

I know Im missing the point of this thread, but can someone please tell me which electricity companies have different rates for different times of day? Im not on Economy7.

user1467048527 · 17/01/2021 11:06

The tenancy is relevant. The problems in our case related to an HMO so it meant the landlord was involved. Completely different to someone in a home they owned or to a council tenant or even to a single household privately renting. When the council get involved in neighbour disputes, the approaches open to them will be different.

OnlyTeaForMe · 17/01/2021 11:06

I suggest you take up the trumpet and start practising when you can't sleep because of the noise of the washing machine. Grin

PurpleDaisies · 17/01/2021 11:05

I just want to be able to relax/sleep at nighttime. I don’t think that makes me a princess.

Then you need to look at what you can change in your house. Not make unreasonable demands on your neighbours.

Whatisapension · 17/01/2021 11:05

I wash and dry mine at night because I work during the day so I don’t have time, so in the mornings I can just put it all away. Weekends I’m generally busy with running either my other errands or my nan’s but I try to wash the bits that take longest to dry then (kingsize bedding in a tiny dryer takes an age)

Even if I start it around 7-8ish the wash takes 1.5 hours (even longer if a hot wash) so the dryer is on late into the night.

Summer is different because I don’t need the dryer, so I set the washer to finish for when I wake up and I can just hang it outside before work.

megletthesecond · 17/01/2021 11:04

They might be on an economy 7 tariff and have no choice.

BornInTheWrongCentury · 17/01/2021 11:04

The noise from their kitchen runs up the side of our wall. We have our sitting room and a long thin hallway under our bedroom but next to the hallway they have an open plan kitchen. Our headboard is against the shared wall. We have fitted wardrobes around our bed so can’t reconfigure our room without a lot of work/expense.

I’m not sure if/how the previous occupants got permission to take out the wall to have their kitchen open plan.

I just want to be able to relax/sleep at nighttime. I don’t think that makes me a princess Hmm

OP posts:
BetterCare · 17/01/2021 11:01

YANBU

The reason why OP pointed out that it was a Housing Association is that the residents will sign an agreement in the same way as if you rented the property. On these agreements there usually is a time stipulation regarding appliances such as washing machines.

In most agreements, the rules are you can't use these type of appliances past 10 pm.

If they are good neighbours you need to have another word rather than complaining to the HA they may not be aware of the clause in their agreement. Maybe find a way to show them how noisy it is.

cittabassa · 17/01/2021 11:00

I live in a flat and wouldn't dream of hoovering or using the washing machine late at night. It's just being considerate.

However, I wouldn't mention it to the neighbours again. They only changed their habit for two weeks. Money might be tight. Maybe they don't really care. Either way it's going to lead to bad relations.

To those with a chip on their shoulder about OP mentioning it being rented, it's often the first thing asked because it might be possible to report to the HA or landlord. (Though I wouldn't in this case).

TheFlis12345 · 17/01/2021 11:00

YANBU at all and I can’t believe some of the comments on this thread.

Our neighbours washing machine is on the wall adjacent to our kitchen cupboards and on a spin cycle, all the crockery and glasses rattle! No way I could sleep through that, but fortunately our neighbours are more considerate and don’t put it on at night. I would speak to them again and ask them to come round and listen to how loud it is your side! It may be cheaper for them but it’s anti social and they need to compromise to find a solution.

Whenwillow · 17/01/2021 11:00

I'd have another chat with them. If they keep different hours to you they might think that 10-1 is OK. I'd hate it. My neighbours have a young child and I know they must be able to hear our machine - the spin cycle is quite loud. They've never said its a problem but I'm always mindful to use it between 8am (as they're up early) and 6pm.
If they were adult night workers it would be different again.
I hope they respond well to a chat.
One of my friends had a neighbour who screamed at her for any noise at all. It was ridiculous. Thank goodness neighbour moved, otherwise friend would have.
We hope ex neighbour has proper noisy neighbours now 😂

GoldieHelen · 17/01/2021 10:59

We all know "they're in social housing if it's relevant" means can I threaten their tenancy to get my way?

We don’t all know that, don’t be silly.

Alternista · 17/01/2021 10:58

YANBU at all. I think 11pm should be the absolute cut off.
Is there any guidance on your council website about noise expectations in your area?

AldiIsla · 17/01/2021 10:57

We all know "they're in social housing if it's relevant" means can I threaten their tenancy to get my way?

TildaTurnip · 17/01/2021 10:56

@SendHelp30

YABU for feeling it necessary to mention they’re in social housing
The OP has already explained this.
Msgiggles30 · 17/01/2021 10:56

I think its inconsiderate! I live somewhere with not great sound insulation and I won't even dry my hair past 9pm! Putting a loud machine on to last until 1am is riddiculous. I wouldn't complain as I'm not that way inclined however I think people surely know this is noisy and could put it on a quicker cycle. Also doesn't washing smell if left in sat in the machine over night

AldiIsla · 17/01/2021 10:54

I don't look down on my neighbours and feel need to pass judgement on how they rent/own/squat.

Makes for very good neighbourly relations both ways.

user1467048527 · 17/01/2021 10:54

Of course yanbu. Also amazed at the previous responses. Living in a terraced house and cheaper electricity at night aren't reasons for making a racket at night. The first is actually a reason for being more restrained than if you lived in a detached house. This is precisely why many European countries have stringent rules about things like this for flatdwellers - it's unneighbourly to disturb other people and nighttime should be peaceful.

We have had neighbour problems in the past. General noise Had the council involved and among the many things they spoke to them about were washing machines on in the middle of the night and slamming doors. Both normal noises - during the day!

This is why my my next house will be detached if at all possible. People willing to inconvenience themselves out of respect for neighbours are in a minority.

I do second the suggestions of white noise and ear plugs as a practical suggestion, however. However right you are, it sounds like getting them to stop may come at a high price. Am in a similar situation myself at present.

diddl · 17/01/2021 10:54

"It’s a washing machine, not a jet washer. Or hoover. The OP sounds like the Princess and the Pea."

Because a loud noise disturbs her?

Iknowwhatudidlastsummer · 17/01/2021 10:52

@AldiIsla

Just have the groundskeeper shoot them if they come onto your lands, your Ladyship. Bloody peasants.
I take you are ok with your own neighbours being a nuisance, or are you the nuisance yourself to grant such an over-reaction?
abstractzebra · 17/01/2021 10:52

Also, it is relevant that it is a HA property as that is where you would need to go to report it!
You wouldn't go to the butcher if you needed to buy bread Confused

abouquetofsharpenedpencils · 17/01/2021 10:52

I sympathise OP.
Noise from neighbours can cause stress levels to sky-rocket especially at night.
I am in a very similar situation but I live in a flat. The neighbor's living room is below our bedroom. They often have friends over after 22:30 and start entertaining. They are very loud. I used to be inbed by 21:00 for a quiet hour of reading before sleeping around 22:00/23:00. Now I am still awake at 01:00/02:00. Last night I got 3 hours of sleep with ear plugs. The lack of sleep combined with stress is just awful.
I think it is good your neighbour’s have moved the time they do washing forward but I would worry if you were to have another word, it could escalate and end up causing you more misery in the future.
I would agree with ea-plugs, white noise and possibly moving the location of yourbedroom. It is one major drawback from living in terraces and flats.
Good Luck.

dementedpixie · 17/01/2021 10:51

@Aprilx

YABU. I am struggling to understand how your bedroom is over their kitchen when you are in terraced houses not flats.

And no it is not relevant that you own your house and they are housing association. Are lesser people (in your mind) not supposed to wash clothes? It is perfectly normal to put washing on at 10pm.

She is saying the kitchen is at the same side as the bedroom so shares the same wall. As the room is open plan on the neighbours side the vibration is travelling up the wall to the bedroom. Its not directly over their kitchen but is on the same wall
BluePeterVag · 17/01/2021 10:51

@diddl

"but it isn’t unreasonable for them to use their appliances when it suits them."

Maybe it is if it disturbs the neighbours though?

It’s a washing machine, not a jet washer. Or hoover. The OP sounds like the Princess and the Pea.
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