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To not expect neighbour to use washing machine overnight

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BornInTheWrongCentury · 17/01/2021 09:39

Just that really. Over the last couple of months our neighbours started using their washing machine/tumble dryer overnight, it was going on on at about midnight and stays on till around 3am.

My husband asked a them politely a few weeks ago when he saw them outside if they’d mind changing the time they have it on as it really disturbs us. We’re in a mid terraced house and they are the end of the terrace. Their kitchen is below our bedroom. The previous occupants took out a wall in their kitchen that separated the kitchen from their hallway so it’s open planned now so all sound from their house is amplified now anyway and noise seems to travel up the wall into our bedroom.

After my husband mentioned it to them they stopped for a couple of weeks but now the noise has started again as they are putting a wash on at about 10pm and it finishes at 1am.

It’s really upsetting me that I can’t go to bed and read/fall asleep in peace until at least 1am now.

If it’s relevant we own our house and their house is social housing. They are the end of the terrace so if I complain to the council or their housing association they will know it’s me. They are the kind of couple who seem ok as long as you’re on the right side of them but they are rather loud and look very intimidating and to be honest I don’t want to make things worse or get into an argument with them.

They are pretty good neighbours apart from this issue as in the only other noise we hear is their children (they have very screechy, door slamming children but I can cope with that during the day!) They don’t have parties or play thumping music - it’s just the issue with not being able to go to sleep when I want to. I don’t know if I’m just being over sensitive where I so tired.

What would you do?

YABU - just be grateful it’s nothing worse than a washing machine and try to ignore it/go to bed later when you know you’ll fall straight to sleep

YANBU - be brave and speak to them again asking them to not use after 11pm and complain to the council if they refuse?

OP posts:
Isisiris · 17/01/2021 12:24

Yes, all the people who live in terraced houses, why would you do that when they could buy a huge detached property with a drive a mile long? I wonder why they do that?! How silly of them! Hmm

Fieldofyellowflowers · 17/01/2021 12:24

@RizzleDrizzle Yes I meant that I wouldn't dream of putting it on during the night. Blush

Isisiris · 17/01/2021 12:23

Thank you vinyl biddy and demented . Never heard of that! :)

IScreamYouScreamWeAllScream · 17/01/2021 12:23

@Cokie3

I have not RTFT yet, but people who want peace and quiet shouldn't live in terraced houses let alone buy them. Terraced houses (which I actually had to google what they are even are! and I was horrified anyone can live like that) are not a thing in the country I live in, thank goodness, except for the inner city. If you want to live the ordinary daily routine with normal hours and peace and quiet, terraced houses are the antithesis of that. Sell and buy a proper house. OR, put up with it. Many people are shift workers, so their living hours will be opposite to yours. Maybe your neighbours are not shift workers, but still, they should be able to use the washing machine and dryer whenever they want. Living right on top of each other like sardines means you don't really have the assumption of peace and quiet. Unfortunately it's the choice you make when you choose to live and buy there. I also wonder just how loud a washing machine and dryer can possibly be. It should be easily classified as just background noise outside, no louder than cars going by all the time, so unless you have issues getting off to sleep, you should easily be able to sleep through that, of all things. Unless the machines are rusty and clanging all the time. So, while it's not nice to have to listen to background or outside noise like that, you ABU to live in a terrace house and expect the same level of peace and quiet in a detached house.
How snobby.

Would you say the same about living in a flat?

A large majority of people live with neighbours along a party wall.

It is perfectly fine. In an ideal world I'd live in a detached house, with access around every side of my house. Ensuites, a swimming pool etc. But I live in the real world and I live in a terrace and have a lovely standard of living. Thank you very much.

Robbybobtail · 17/01/2021 12:23

A big F off to everyone who seems to think that if you want to be able to sleep at night you have to be able to afford a detached house. So fuck 90% of the population then, they have no right to quite enjoyment of their houses?!?
The only difference is that of you live in a detached, you can be inconsiderate and it doesn’t affect anyone else. But if you’re in an apartment or terraced, you have to think of others.

And yes, everyone who puts on their washing machines at night in these situations—your neighbours hate you.

I agree, the excuses people will come up with on here for rude, antisocial behaviour is ridiculous! Either they are very entitled or on a wind-up.

Onjnmoeiejducwoapy · 17/01/2021 12:19

A big F off to everyone who seems to think that if you want to be able to sleep at night you have to be able to afford a detached house. So fuck 90% of the population then, they have no right to quite enjoyment of their houses?!?

The only difference is that of you live in a detached, you can be inconsiderate and it doesn’t affect anyone else. But if you’re in an apartment or terraced, you have to think of others.

And yes, everyone who puts on their washing machines at night in these situations—your neighbours hate you.

MzHz · 17/01/2021 12:19

If it’s relevant we own our house and their house is social housing. They are the end of the terrace so if I complain to the council or their housing association they will know it’s me. They are the kind of couple who seem ok as long as you’re on the right side of them but they are rather loud and look very intimidating and to be honest I don’t want to make things worse or get into an argument with them.

They are pretty good neighbours apart from this issue as in the only other noise we hear is their children (they have very screechy, door slamming children but I can cope with that during the day!)

What an absolute peach you are. Those SH neighbours a bit rough cos they’re poorer than us, their kids are more feral than kids we’d have.

I loathe this kind of judgemental attitude.

beargrass · 17/01/2021 12:18

YANBU. I would knock on their door each time. They will soon stop

Robbybobtail · 17/01/2021 12:18

I have not RTFT yet, but people who want peace and quiet shouldn't live in terraced houses let alone buy them. Terraced houses (which I actually had to google what they are even are! and I was horrified anyone can live like that) are not a thing in the country I live in, thank goodness, except for the inner city. If you want to live the ordinary daily routine with normal hours and peace and quiet, terraced houses are the antithesis of that. Sell and buy a proper house. OR, put up with it. Many people are shift workers, so their living hours will be opposite to yours. Maybe your neighbours are not shift workers, but still, they should be able to use the washing machine and dryer whenever they want. Living right on top of each other like sardines means you don't really have the assumption of peace and quiet. Unfortunately it's the choice you make when you choose to live and buy there. I also wonder just how loud a washing machine and dryer can possibly be. It should be easily classified as just background noise outside, no louder than cars going by all the time, so unless you have issues getting off to sleep, you should easily be able to sleep through that, of all things. Unless the machines are rusty and clanging all the time. So, while it's not nice to have to listen to background or outside noise like that, you ABU to live in a terrace house and expect the same level of peace and quiet in a detached house.

Or, instead of the OP having to sell her house and scrape the money together for a new, detached house in the suburbs the (anti-social) neighbours could just run the washer from 8-11pm in stead of 2-3 hours later? It's called being polite.
Just to be

RizzleDrizzle · 17/01/2021 12:17

Ok @murbblurb sorry I actually think your quite ignorant

So I’ve just looked in to this

To run a washing machine a around 16p per one hour wash: On average, a 6 litre load washing machine takes around 1 unit of electricity – roughly about 16p – to run an hour-long wash.

16p x what 3 loads a week =48p week

48x4 =£1.92 a month
Or 48x52 weeks a year that’s £24.96 a YEAR

economy 7 reduces the rates by up to half depending on supplier

But let’s take it down even by 5 p per unit that’s around 11p to run a washing machine for an hour then
11px3 loads of washing a week that’s 33p a week already a saving of 15p
33x4 =£1.32 a month saving a saving of 60p a month that could actually be a couple of tins of vegetables a month
33x52 weeks a year = £17.16 that’s a saving of £7.80 a year that could make the world of difference.

If your taking it as far as half the standard tariff
That makes it 24p a week 96p a month £12.48 a year!

That’s a hell of a lot of difference actually

But don’t let ignorance get in the way of calling people selfish pigs hay!

VinylDetective · 17/01/2021 12:16

@Isisiris

Can someone explain to me why washers are cheaper to run at night? Is this countrywide? I never knew misses point of thread
Our electricity is on three different tariffs, the cheapest is overnight. We live in a house with gas central heating and it isn’t Economy 7. It’s just one of the plans suppliers offer every household.
Lovely1a2b3c · 17/01/2021 12:14

@Cokie3

I have not RTFT yet, but people who want peace and quiet shouldn't live in terraced houses let alone buy them. Terraced houses (which I actually had to google what they are even are! and I was horrified anyone can live like that) are not a thing in the country I live in, thank goodness, except for the inner city. If you want to live the ordinary daily routine with normal hours and peace and quiet, terraced houses are the antithesis of that. Sell and buy a proper house. OR, put up with it. Many people are shift workers, so their living hours will be opposite to yours. Maybe your neighbours are not shift workers, but still, they should be able to use the washing machine and dryer whenever they want. Living right on top of each other like sardines means you don't really have the assumption of peace and quiet. Unfortunately it's the choice you make when you choose to live and buy there. I also wonder just how loud a washing machine and dryer can possibly be. It should be easily classified as just background noise outside, no louder than cars going by all the time, so unless you have issues getting off to sleep, you should easily be able to sleep through that, of all things. Unless the machines are rusty and clanging all the time. So, while it's not nice to have to listen to background or outside noise like that, you ABU to live in a terrace house and expect the same level of peace and quiet in a detached house.
That's a bit of a silly thing to say. Obviously for the most part both semi-detached and terraced houses are cheaper. In general anyone with the opportunity would choose a detached house.
biddybird · 17/01/2021 12:14

@Isisiris You can get an electricity tariff that varies the charges by the time of day. It's usually referred to as "Economy 7".

dementedpixie · 17/01/2021 12:13

@Isisiris

Can someone explain to me why washers are cheaper to run at night? Is this countrywide? I never knew misses point of thread
Its only cheaper if you live in an all electric house with an economy 7 tariff (or economy 10)
Cokie3 · 17/01/2021 12:12

I have not RTFT yet, but people who want peace and quiet shouldn't live in terraced houses let alone buy them. Terraced houses (which I actually had to google what they are even are! and I was horrified anyone can live like that) are not a thing in the country I live in, thank goodness, except for the inner city. If you want to live the ordinary daily routine with normal hours and peace and quiet, terraced houses are the antithesis of that. Sell and buy a proper house. OR, put up with it. Many people are shift workers, so their living hours will be opposite to yours. Maybe your neighbours are not shift workers, but still, they should be able to use the washing machine and dryer whenever they want. Living right on top of each other like sardines means you don't really have the assumption of peace and quiet. Unfortunately it's the choice you make when you choose to live and buy there. I also wonder just how loud a washing machine and dryer can possibly be. It should be easily classified as just background noise outside, no louder than cars going by all the time, so unless you have issues getting off to sleep, you should easily be able to sleep through that, of all things. Unless the machines are rusty and clanging all the time. So, while it's not nice to have to listen to background or outside noise like that, you ABU to live in a terrace house and expect the same level of peace and quiet in a detached house.

Isisiris · 17/01/2021 12:11

Can someone explain to me why washers are cheaper to run at night? Is this countrywide? I never knew misses point of thread

ukmail · 17/01/2021 12:09

Surely it's relevant that they are in social housing? It means that if things get really difficult Op has a landlord to go to.

Childrenofthestones · 17/01/2021 12:09

Just a factoid for the people putting on their washer/dryer before going to bed,

60 house fires a week are caused by washers or dryers. That's 1/3 of all house fires.

ParlezVousWronglais · 17/01/2021 12:08

I’ll guess have to let it go and get on with the lack of sleep as best I can

Or alternatively speak to your council for advice and as a last resort they can measure the sound and tell you if neighbours are breaking the law! Probably not while in lockdown though.

PenfoldPenny · 17/01/2021 12:07

Im really astonished by all the YABU on this thread. Seriously - if this was you and your life you would be ok with your neighbours keeping you awake until 1am most mornings. You'd just go to sleep with earplugs in and be ok with that??
OP, YADNBU. Its thoughtlessly annoying. No reason at all why they cant instead put it on before they go to work/in the daytime. Im shocked too at a washing load taking 3 hours - thats a whole lot of water/time - ours takes an hour.

ukmail · 17/01/2021 12:07

@Kroebero

YABU we put washing on at night too, it’s not loud enough to bother us. I think this is part and parcel of you living in a terraced house and you should accept a little noise.
That's so inconsiderate. Anyway, Op isn't talking about a little noise.
Brefugee · 17/01/2021 12:06

also - not sure what kind of machine they have but i have a lovely, very quiet, Miele and the absolute best wash in terms of economy and ecology is the 3 hour 30° eco wash. I use it for everything that doesn't need 60°

Also again, the HA might have a rule about not making nuiscance noise, but nobody can actually judge that unless OP gets the council in to measure it.

SoupDragon · 17/01/2021 12:05

it’s still been really hard to for us to fall asleep with it running after 11, so would they mind trying to finish the cycle by 11... hopefully that’s not too unreasonable of me

That won't coincide with the cheaper over night electricity though.

UnicornAndSparkles · 17/01/2021 12:05

I'd politely ask again, and mention the noise levels in your bedroom. If I was your neighbour I'd be mortified and stop using the machine overnight! Sleep is important.

VinylDetective · 17/01/2021 12:03

I very much doubt I’m a nuisance neighbour, given that I’ve very amicably lived next door to the same people for over 20 years. I guess the difference is that they and we are of a generation that doesn’t expect other people to arrange their lives for our convenience.