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To not expect neighbour to use washing machine overnight

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BornInTheWrongCentury · 17/01/2021 09:39

Just that really. Over the last couple of months our neighbours started using their washing machine/tumble dryer overnight, it was going on on at about midnight and stays on till around 3am.

My husband asked a them politely a few weeks ago when he saw them outside if they’d mind changing the time they have it on as it really disturbs us. We’re in a mid terraced house and they are the end of the terrace. Their kitchen is below our bedroom. The previous occupants took out a wall in their kitchen that separated the kitchen from their hallway so it’s open planned now so all sound from their house is amplified now anyway and noise seems to travel up the wall into our bedroom.

After my husband mentioned it to them they stopped for a couple of weeks but now the noise has started again as they are putting a wash on at about 10pm and it finishes at 1am.

It’s really upsetting me that I can’t go to bed and read/fall asleep in peace until at least 1am now.

If it’s relevant we own our house and their house is social housing. They are the end of the terrace so if I complain to the council or their housing association they will know it’s me. They are the kind of couple who seem ok as long as you’re on the right side of them but they are rather loud and look very intimidating and to be honest I don’t want to make things worse or get into an argument with them.

They are pretty good neighbours apart from this issue as in the only other noise we hear is their children (they have very screechy, door slamming children but I can cope with that during the day!) They don’t have parties or play thumping music - it’s just the issue with not being able to go to sleep when I want to. I don’t know if I’m just being over sensitive where I so tired.

What would you do?

YABU - just be grateful it’s nothing worse than a washing machine and try to ignore it/go to bed later when you know you’ll fall straight to sleep

YANBU - be brave and speak to them again asking them to not use after 11pm and complain to the council if they refuse?

OP posts:
AvoidingNextdoorNeighbour · 17/01/2021 12:48

I was raised believing that using loud household appliances after a certain time was unneighbourly and rude. Is this not the case any more? Like playing music or doing DIY in the middle of the night?

I use the washer's time delay setting so that it comes on at 6am and is doing the loud spin by the time it's socially acceptable to potentially disturb neighbours.

The only time I didn't do this was when we were in a detached or in our large house that had the laundry at the arse end of the house, several rooms away from the attached cottage where neighbours lived.

kowari · 17/01/2021 12:47

If they have one with a delay timer they could set it to run early morning to finish at 7am as it's the spin cycle that's noisy. Or I had one where I could put on a load and it would wash and rinse but then pause at that point so I could then press a button when I woke up and it would drain and spin ready to go out on the line.

lockeddownandcrazy · 17/01/2021 12:47

YABU - if its cheaper for them to do it then and money is tight. If its just a choice thing then YANBU but they may need to do it early morning or evening instead.

StormcloakNord · 17/01/2021 12:46

I think you might have got slightly better responses to this if you didn't feel the need to point out that they are social housing.

It's made it sound like you think you're better than them - why on Earth would it be relevant to the thread? Noise is noise regardless of who it comes from.

Youdonut · 17/01/2021 12:44

YANBU.

My neighbour made a comment she could hear the washing machine - I remember being a bit pissed off she was was being passive aggressive about it, rather than directly telling us it disturbed her at night and could we please stop, which would have been more polite really. (She turned out to be a complete nightmare anyway with shitty comments about washing the windows, mowing the lawn, etc etc but besides the point).

However I stopped. Because yes it costs a bit more to use in the day but it's hardly unreasonable if it's disturbing people in the middle of the night to simply stop. I had no idea she could hear it as I never heard hers, I was a bit mortified we were keeping her up at night tbf.

People saying they wouldn't stop are selfish cunts and the kind of people that make a nuisance of themselves to others. It's not hard to be considerate is it. FWIW earplugs don't work if the noise is travelling that badly, plus it's the vibrations that can absolutely rattle a neighbouring property. I tried earplugs for her snoring, never worked and I ended up with sore ears. Be a different story if you were asking her not to do something she couldn't help much eg snoring.

Cannot believe the amount of utterly selfish people on this thread. You should be ashamed.

peak2021 · 17/01/2021 12:41

Unreasonable to potentially disturb their own children's sleep at that time of night, not just yours.

I would approach them again and tell them what is reasonable in your view (say 8-11), to give them one more opportunity before you decide whether to complain to their landlord. What you should not do is threaten to complain to their landlord unless you are 100% going to do that if they remain inconsiderate.

SoupDragon · 17/01/2021 12:40

@Robbybobtail

YABU. I put my washing machine on overnight as it's cheaper

If your neighbours politely asked you not to as it was keeping them up at night would you stop?

If they said "we can't afford to" would the neighbours politely offer to pay?
wildraisins · 17/01/2021 12:39

[quote BornInTheWrongCentury]@Cokie3 We bought the house 16 years ago and although ideally would have moved after a few years haven’t been able to (health issues/having children etc) so have worked really hard to make this house a home. We don’t have another bedroom to swop with as ours is the only one big enough for our bed, the other two bedrooms are tiny and anyhow our children sleep in them.
We are not in a position to move or upgrade to a semi detached/detached house as house prices are so expensive here (south east) I would love a semi/detached house - who wouldn’t? but it’s not possible for us.

I will look at ear plugs and what we can do to soundproof our side. Hopefully that will help. If that doesn’t work I will look at the cost of rearranging our bedroom but we’d have to move fitted wardrobes and the radiator so it’s not ideal. (If I have I do that I am also going to have a BIG TV fitted to that wall and watch movies in bed till 1am to drown it their noise! Grin[/quote]
Really?

You should not have to rearrange your whole house because your neighbours are being inconsiderate.

Talk to them about it - don't live in fear. I know how this kind of thing can really affect your mental health. I'm sure you can reach a compromise - just take a deep breath and confront them.

Nanny0gg · 17/01/2021 12:38

@BlueSussex

YABVVU

If you can;t cope with the noise of a washing machine you will have to move.

What nonsense!

God, the world gets more selfish by the day.

'I'll do what I want to do and sod the effect it has on anyone else!'

IcedPurple · 17/01/2021 12:38

Are they at home during the day? If so, that’s the time to do washing. Is it really that much cheaper?

If on Economy 7 it can be up to 50% cheaper.

Robbybobtail · 17/01/2021 12:38

YABU.
I put my washing machine on overnight as it's cheaper

If your neighbours politely asked you not to as it was keeping them up at night would you stop?

Nanny0gg · 17/01/2021 12:37

@BornInTheWrongCentury

Thanks for all your replies and suggestions xx

My husband wasn’t specific about what time was too late to be a nuisance to us when he spoke to them, he just said it was really loud and vibrating up our wall and therefore disturbing our sleep. They apologised for the noise and it stopped for a couple of weeks before starting up again - just at an earlier time.

I don’t think it’s a good idea to go round to speak to them about it (judging by some of the responses I’ve had on here I’m even more worried about how they might react now!)

I think I will wait until I see one of them outside and thank them for not running it the middle of the night anymore, but mention that it’s still been really hard to for us to fall asleep with it running after 11, so would they mind trying to finish the cycle by 11... hopefully that’s not too unreasonable of me.

If they become as defensive as some of the posters on here, or argumentative, or refuse I’ll guess have to let it go and get on with the lack of sleep as best I can Sad

OP, I'd phone Environmental Health and just ask what their views are on this situation

They may well agree with you.

SoupDragon · 17/01/2021 12:36

Can you suggest the put the machine on one of these?

www.amazon.co.uk/etm-Anti-Vibration-Washing-Machine-Mat/dp/B00QVN1JPA?tag=mumsnetforu03-21

Might be no good if the machine is under the worktop though.

Roundtoedshoes · 17/01/2021 12:36

Wow to everyone saying YABU. I’m sure they wouldn’t like it, how ridiculous!

Are they at home during the day? If so, that’s the time to do washing. Is it really that much cheaper?

9 PM is the latest I’d want a cycle to end (the spin at the end is the loudest), even though I go to bed hours later. Because I’m a considerate person.

Yes to mentioning it casually when you see them, seems like the least confrontational as approach.

BlueSussex · 17/01/2021 12:36

YABVVU

If you can;t cope with the noise of a washing machine you will have to move.

wildraisins · 17/01/2021 12:35

Really surprised at the number of people here saying YABU!

I wouldn't be putting up with this, it's really inconsiderate of them and they know it's disturbing you. We would love to have our washing machine on at night as it would be more convenient and cheaper, but we don't because we live in flats and it would be hell for our neighbours!

IcedPurple · 17/01/2021 12:32

YABU.

I put my washing machine on overnight as it's cheaper.

KatherineJaneway · 17/01/2021 12:29

YANBU

Laureline · 17/01/2021 12:28

YANBU - my washing machine is very noisy when it’s spinning, I would not want to sleep above it.

Also, my previous machine caught fire one night, and the only reason I caught it in time to prevent a house fire was that I had forgotten something in the kitchen and got up to get it. I never run appliances at night now.

Cokie3 · 17/01/2021 12:28

@Robbybobtail Or, instead of the OP having to sell her house and scrape the money together for a new, detached house in the suburbs the (anti-social) neighbours could just run the washer from 8-11pm in stead of 2-3 hours later? It's called being polite.

They may be shift workers who are at work during those times? Not saying they, but in a rhetorical way, some residents of terraced houses would be shift workers I imagine and what you consider anti-social may simply be their normal time and the only time they can do it. Maybe some are Essential Workers, ie NHS. Or police. You just don't know. There is no such thing as anti-social hours. People work at all hours of the day.

BornInTheWrongCentury · 17/01/2021 12:26

@Cokie3 We bought the house 16 years ago and although ideally would have moved after a few years haven’t been able to (health issues/having children etc) so have worked really hard to make this house a home. We don’t have another bedroom to swop with as ours is the only one big enough for our bed, the other two bedrooms are tiny and anyhow our children sleep in them.
We are not in a position to move or upgrade to a semi detached/detached house as house prices are so expensive here (south east) I would love a semi/detached house - who wouldn’t? but it’s not possible for us.

I will look at ear plugs and what we can do to soundproof our side. Hopefully that will help. If that doesn’t work I will look at the cost of rearranging our bedroom but we’d have to move fitted wardrobes and the radiator so it’s not ideal. (If I have I do that I am also going to have a BIG TV fitted to that wall and watch movies in bed till 1am to drown it their noise! Grin

OP posts:
ParlezVousWronglais · 17/01/2021 12:25

Maybe the machines are right up against the wall? Can you ask them to check and move them forward an inch away from the party wall?

At the same time move your bed away from the wall a couple of inches?

Flyingwiththecanons · 17/01/2021 12:24

It's not relevant you own and they're social housing Hmmwhat are you going to do? Get them evicted for putting their washing on?!

Tubbyinthehottub · 17/01/2021 12:24

I wouldn't do this in my own house, partly due to noise (my bedroom is above the utility room) and partly due to the risk of fire. No attached neighbours.

Whatisapension · 17/01/2021 12:24

@PenfoldPenny

Im really astonished by all the YABU on this thread. Seriously - if this was you and your life you would be ok with your neighbours keeping you awake until 1am most mornings. You'd just go to sleep with earplugs in and be ok with that?? OP, YADNBU. Its thoughtlessly annoying. No reason at all why they cant instead put it on before they go to work/in the daytime. Im shocked too at a washing load taking 3 hours - thats a whole lot of water/time - ours takes an hour.
I wouldn’t leave my washer or dryer on while I’m out of the house for most of the day.

Different washers have different settings. A 30 wash takes minimum 1.5 hours, 60 is a minimum of 2.5 hours.

There is a quick wash option which takes 45min , but you’re only supposed to fill the drum 40-50% which would just mean double the amount of washing I need to do. So in the end, it would take the same amount of time, energy and water probably.