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To not expect neighbour to use washing machine overnight

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BornInTheWrongCentury · 17/01/2021 09:39

Just that really. Over the last couple of months our neighbours started using their washing machine/tumble dryer overnight, it was going on on at about midnight and stays on till around 3am.

My husband asked a them politely a few weeks ago when he saw them outside if they’d mind changing the time they have it on as it really disturbs us. We’re in a mid terraced house and they are the end of the terrace. Their kitchen is below our bedroom. The previous occupants took out a wall in their kitchen that separated the kitchen from their hallway so it’s open planned now so all sound from their house is amplified now anyway and noise seems to travel up the wall into our bedroom.

After my husband mentioned it to them they stopped for a couple of weeks but now the noise has started again as they are putting a wash on at about 10pm and it finishes at 1am.

It’s really upsetting me that I can’t go to bed and read/fall asleep in peace until at least 1am now.

If it’s relevant we own our house and their house is social housing. They are the end of the terrace so if I complain to the council or their housing association they will know it’s me. They are the kind of couple who seem ok as long as you’re on the right side of them but they are rather loud and look very intimidating and to be honest I don’t want to make things worse or get into an argument with them.

They are pretty good neighbours apart from this issue as in the only other noise we hear is their children (they have very screechy, door slamming children but I can cope with that during the day!) They don’t have parties or play thumping music - it’s just the issue with not being able to go to sleep when I want to. I don’t know if I’m just being over sensitive where I so tired.

What would you do?

YABU - just be grateful it’s nothing worse than a washing machine and try to ignore it/go to bed later when you know you’ll fall straight to sleep

YANBU - be brave and speak to them again asking them to not use after 11pm and complain to the council if they refuse?

OP posts:
NeonBella · 17/01/2021 14:31

The council won't care.
My neighbours are having loud parties on the reg and are stinking out other peoples homes with their weed habit.
I'd be very surprised is they would care about washing machine noise.

I really feel for you though. Not being able to relax because of noise is horrible.
I've found having a sleep app playing quietly next to me helps a lot. It drowns out a lot of their noise.

AmberItsACertainty · 17/01/2021 14:29

YABU. Your neighbors have a right to use their home. They stopped for 2wks during which time they probably found their electric key meter ran out after 9days instead of 14 or something. So they went back to doing it at night but changed the time to try to better accommodate you.

You can't expect others to change their lives or routines just to prevent you changing yours. I've had periods where I'm asleep at 3am until late morning, really didn't need my neighbor putting their washing machine on at 6am (sounds like an earthquake at 7am on spin) or letting their toddler run around in shoes on their laminate flooring, above me. But you know, it's just life. So I'd be awake from 6/7-8.30am (when they all left) then back to sleep and catch up on sleep on days off.

You have an easy solution. Swap your bedroom with your living room. Then you'll have an extra wall and corridor between the washing machine and yourself. You don't want to because you'd have built in wardrobes in the living room? Or the living room is nicer so you prefer it for daytime use? Tough. Your neighbors don't want a massive electric bill. Why do you think your wants trump theirs? All this talk of being considerate, you're the one being selfish.

candide47 · 17/01/2021 14:21

Ask them if you buy a rubber mat for under the machine, would they fit it or let you fit it. Making sure the machine is on the level can also really help with vibration. Also, get a big rug for your bedroom and put heavy underlay under it. If you don't already have carpet consider it. These steps will help absorb the sound and vibration.

mam0918 · 17/01/2021 14:21

@WWOTW

If they are HA they are not allowed to move walls etc. Since it’s also causing an issue you could dob them in and they’d likely have to reinstate it
they didnt remove the wall... it was done prior to them living there
WWOTW · 17/01/2021 14:19

If they are HA they are not allowed to move walls etc. Since it’s also causing an issue you could dob them in and they’d likely have to reinstate it

MiriamMargo · 17/01/2021 14:17

YABU, it seriously cant be that bad, and I am sure its not every night

Whiskysoda · 17/01/2021 14:17

Sorry op, but if you want and expect total silence at night you need to move to somewhere where you don’t have your bedroom over your neighbours kitchen.

The white noise of a washing machine (in the house next door and on the floor below you) is absolute bliss compared to the noise that some poor families have to suffer.

It’s part of living in a community, you have to put up with other people. My neighbours wake me at 7.05am every fucking morning with his stupidly loud motorbike. Sometimes lorries thundering past in the main road or burglar alarms wake me. It’s how life is when you live in a neig with others. We all try to be quiet, your neighbours have moved their washing to be a few hours earlier, I do think you’d be very unreasonable to ask them to wash even earlier still.

Maybe it’s time for you to look at buying somewhere more secluded, I’m sorry my answer isn’t what you want to hear, I know it isn’t.

silverstarfish · 17/01/2021 14:16

We haven’t mentioned it though, we just put up with it.

mam0918 · 17/01/2021 14:16

@JinglingHellsBells

Sometimes MN is another world!

I don't know anyone in RL who would think that late night machines which disturb sleep are acceptable.

Most neighbours would be considerate if asked to.

Not everyone likes to use ear plugs- they are not exactly comfortable.

OP- I think you ought to keep asking them to be more considerate.

For those posters asking why does the owner/ tenant issue not matter- it does.

If someone in rented accommodation makes anti social noise, they can eventually be evicted. Anti social noise is anything from 11pm - 7am. Sure , a washing machine is not a rave, but it's still very annoying and a bit selfish.

NO landlord on earth is going to evict a good, tidy and paying tennent because a random home owner neighbor objected, the homeowner isnt paying the rent and the landlord owes litrally nothing to them but does have to give rights to their tennent.

If there was a legal issue like late night parties with tonnes of people the landlord might evict for them breaking terms, damaging the house or causing issues with the council but having a washing machine is not punishable and the council litrally cant and wont do anything about it.

movingonup20 · 17/01/2021 14:16

It's cheaper to run machines overnight and people on smart meters are being encouraged to use power at quiet times through pricing so yes yabu it's annoying yes but it's kind of a trade off for living in a terraced house (and yes I'm terraced)

silverstarfish · 17/01/2021 14:15

Our neighbours aren’t disturbed by their own machine.

silverstarfish · 17/01/2021 14:14

@mam0918

My DH had an issue with me wanting to run the dryer at night as he was convinced he wouldnt be able to sleep and it would wake the kids, I just started doing it when he wasnt looking and he didnt even notice... now he doesnt care.

it seems to some people they think its so bizaare but its really common to run your washer/dryer at night.

I mean how loud can it honestly be in your bedroom after traveling through a fireproof terrace wall and another room? we cant hear our own running and its actually in our house.

As I posted above - our neighbour’s makes the wall vibrate and from our bedroom sounds much louder than our own washing machine does (we can’t even hear our own from upstairs). I imagine our neighbours are disturbed by their own machine, but we are - at 5am.
mam0918 · 17/01/2021 14:09

My DH had an issue with me wanting to run the dryer at night as he was convinced he wouldnt be able to sleep and it would wake the kids, I just started doing it when he wasnt looking and he didnt even notice... now he doesnt care.

it seems to some people they think its so bizaare but its really common to run your washer/dryer at night.

I mean how loud can it honestly be in your bedroom after traveling through a fireproof terrace wall and another room? we cant hear our own running and its actually in our house.

changedmynamelol · 17/01/2021 14:06

Yabu
Nothing you can do About it.Use ear plugs.

silverstarfish · 17/01/2021 14:01

@Kroebero

YABU we put washing on at night too, it’s not loud enough to bother us. I think this is part and parcel of you living in a terraced house and you should accept a little noise.
Our neighbour’s washing machine sounds louder than our own! They have their spin cycle on at around 5am and the noise wakes us up - it makes the wall vibrate making it sound worse.

I’m therefore aware of this and wouldn’t put washing on late as I know our other neighbour would be disturbed in the same way.

I’d never put washing on over night from a fire risk point of view anyway (as advised by the fire service).

Persianparadise · 17/01/2021 14:00

GypsyLee

Aw, you own your house, you sound like you need a detached property, they are great and any little noise doesn't disturb you.
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Aye and you sound like you need a kick up the arse

RantyAnty · 17/01/2021 13:58

Blame the power companies who charge a fortune for daytime hours.

I'd look at it from a problem-solving standpoint. they tried to accommodate you so I don't think they're being arseholes.

You could gift them one of those mats and see if your DH can offer to help level the washer if needed.

Their washer may be old too. As a last resort, you could gift them a super quiet Bosch front loader.

openallthetime · 17/01/2021 13:52

I actually think it's fair enough to expect them to at the very least do it earlier in the evening or early morning. Aren't there laws against using loud appliances after a certain time?

However the comment about social housing is about as stuck up as you can get so I do feel YABU in that respect. WTF?

Rooroobear · 17/01/2021 13:51

I really can’t believe all the suggestions saying write down dates and times of when you spoke to them and what their response was, how many times they do it and report to the HA. The OP has said they are good neighbours otherwise and you are actually suggesting reporting them over a washing machine. How many times does a week do they do this? If they have a few children this can impact how many times you use your washing machine and when.

callmeadoctor · 17/01/2021 13:48

Print off the dangers of putting a washing machine on at night and stuff it through their door. The fire risks are so obvious. Nobody should be putting them on whilst you are in bed. (Of course they may not be going to bed whist washer is on, they may just stay up all night.)

GypsyLee · 17/01/2021 13:48

Aw, you own your house, you sound like you need a detached property, they are great and any little noise doesn't disturb you.

JinglingHellsBells · 17/01/2021 13:47

Sometimes MN is another world!

I don't know anyone in RL who would think that late night machines which disturb sleep are acceptable.

Most neighbours would be considerate if asked to.

Not everyone likes to use ear plugs- they are not exactly comfortable.

OP- I think you ought to keep asking them to be more considerate.

For those posters asking why does the owner/ tenant issue not matter- it does.

If someone in rented accommodation makes anti social noise, they can eventually be evicted. Anti social noise is anything from 11pm - 7am. Sure , a washing machine is not a rave, but it's still very annoying and a bit selfish.

GypsyLee · 17/01/2021 13:46

YABU, buy ear plugs.
Not their fault a wall was removed.
It's a washing machine not a live band playing.