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To not expect neighbour to use washing machine overnight

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BornInTheWrongCentury · 17/01/2021 09:39

Just that really. Over the last couple of months our neighbours started using their washing machine/tumble dryer overnight, it was going on on at about midnight and stays on till around 3am.

My husband asked a them politely a few weeks ago when he saw them outside if they’d mind changing the time they have it on as it really disturbs us. We’re in a mid terraced house and they are the end of the terrace. Their kitchen is below our bedroom. The previous occupants took out a wall in their kitchen that separated the kitchen from their hallway so it’s open planned now so all sound from their house is amplified now anyway and noise seems to travel up the wall into our bedroom.

After my husband mentioned it to them they stopped for a couple of weeks but now the noise has started again as they are putting a wash on at about 10pm and it finishes at 1am.

It’s really upsetting me that I can’t go to bed and read/fall asleep in peace until at least 1am now.

If it’s relevant we own our house and their house is social housing. They are the end of the terrace so if I complain to the council or their housing association they will know it’s me. They are the kind of couple who seem ok as long as you’re on the right side of them but they are rather loud and look very intimidating and to be honest I don’t want to make things worse or get into an argument with them.

They are pretty good neighbours apart from this issue as in the only other noise we hear is their children (they have very screechy, door slamming children but I can cope with that during the day!) They don’t have parties or play thumping music - it’s just the issue with not being able to go to sleep when I want to. I don’t know if I’m just being over sensitive where I so tired.

What would you do?

YABU - just be grateful it’s nothing worse than a washing machine and try to ignore it/go to bed later when you know you’ll fall straight to sleep

YANBU - be brave and speak to them again asking them to not use after 11pm and complain to the council if they refuse?

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Happyone8 · 17/01/2021 15:27

You could also as a last resort consider moving your bedroom to another room ( assume you have more than one bedroom) if kids or other person occupies other room than they may not wake with this noise . I know my ds sleep through anything.
Good luck op , I truly empathise and wish people would be more considerate neighbours, especially when made aware of problems .

BikeRunSki · 17/01/2021 15:26

@Cokie3

Why can't people say the other couple are 'renting'? It could be privately rented, or publicly rented (social housing). We get the message if you say you own and they rent, we don't need to know it is social housing. Renting is renting, and it's a lot nicer just to say they rent, and doesn't give off any judgement.
I think the OP mentioned social housing in case there was any recourse to the housing association, rather than to be snobby?
PixieLaLa · 17/01/2021 15:24

YANBU
Of course it’s anti social to put a washing machine on in the middle of the night. The same goes for DIY/hoovering/loud music past a certain time, sadly some people just aren’t as considerate as others.

(FYI as soon as you even mention HA/council it’s like a red rag to a bull and you will get a lot of unkind, unhelpful and defensive comments regardless of the context.) 😂

Derekhello · 17/01/2021 15:24

It’s probably because of economy 7, but I feel your pain. I had a neighbour in the flat above me who would get out of bed at midnight/one o clock/half one in the morning to use hers, ( I know this because you could hear all movements especially at night when it was quiet so I’d even hear her get out of bed! 🙄) I don’t think it was because of a cheaper rate because she used it all day as well, the noise was deafening at night 😫 She was an arsehole. Live in a terrace now, I have economy 7 but never have it going after10 pm or before 8 am. I don’t want to be that neighbour

Brefugee · 17/01/2021 15:24

If I was renting I would contact my landlord or social housing organisation to ask how we could resolve the matter in a way that’s fair for both of us. I don’t want to upset my neighbours or stop them living their lives,

you know that in countries that have a lot of renters neighbours handle this kind of thing by speaking to their neighbours

it is absolutely nothing to do with the landlord unless laws are being broken and even then it is up to the police and the local authority.

Murmurur · 17/01/2021 15:24

If they have a timer on the machine they might be happy to move it to later after you've fallen asleep.

Cokie3 · 17/01/2021 15:20

Why can't people say the other couple are 'renting'? It could be privately rented, or publicly rented (social housing). We get the message if you say you own and they rent, we don't need to know it is social housing. Renting is renting, and it's a lot nicer just to say they rent, and doesn't give off any judgement.

Staffy1 · 17/01/2021 15:19

YANBU. I would think they should be more considerate of noise like that after 11:00pm.

Carolofthebellies · 17/01/2021 15:14

OP, my friend had a similar issue with the noise coming from the flat above. They contacted the council and I think they had to record decibels or something to show how loud it is.

BornInTheWrongCentury · 17/01/2021 15:11

Omg I’m going to say it one last time I don’t have anything against anyone who lives in social housing! I genuinely don’t think I’m better just because I have a mortgage. I didn’t mean it that way at all!

The houses are 1970’s ex council houses, they are literally identical. The lady who bought ours from the council many years ago decided to move on and we bought it from her. Most houses in the road are now owned. Next door has always been social housing.

If I was renting I would contact my landlord or social housing organisation to ask how we could resolve the matter in a way that’s fair for both of us. I don’t want to upset my neighbours or stop them living their lives, I’d just like a peaceful nights sleep & I’m not sure I have the right to contact their social housing organisation as I don’t rent one of their properties.
To complain to the council would of course be the last resort anyway. I will speak to the neighbours again at some point and hope I don’t get my head bitten off like I have by a few posters on here.

I’m going to leave it there but thank you all those who have replied, for all the links and suggestions and especially to those who have stuck up for me against some of the horrible comments - I wish I had neighbours like you! xx

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Jux · 17/01/2021 15:10

I wonder if there's some sort of baffle they could surround their machines with (at your expense obvs)? We had a tenant who played music which would vibrate into our sitting room making it really hard to relax in there (things vibrating off shelves etc), but he was happy to put thick wads of foam under and behind his speakers which more or less solved the problem.

cittabassa · 17/01/2021 15:07

I am not sure on your comment about them being HA? Does that make a difference if you don't own your house?

Haven't you noticed the explanations about this throughout the thread?

alltheadrenalin · 17/01/2021 15:01

It would drive me mad, I'm very noise sensitive. Invest in ear plugs this isn't worth falling out with your neighbours.

Carolofthebellies · 17/01/2021 15:01

It's possible to hear the washing machine spinning if it's overloaded and also if there are other issues with it otherwise newer appliances are pretty quiet.

sofiaaaaaa · 17/01/2021 14:58

You can’t dictate when people do their laundry in their own homes unfortunately. It is normal household noise, it’s not like they’re blasting out loud rave music. How do you know that one of them doesn’t work awkward shifts?

They have clearly made an effort to accommodate you already. You’re bordering on being a nuisance yourself

Carolofthebellies · 17/01/2021 14:58

*could

Carolofthebellies · 17/01/2021 14:57

I feel for you. Count you move into another room if possible? Electricity is really expensive during the day time. I think people who use big electric appliances in the night just want to cut their bill a bit.

HopingForOurRainbowBaby · 17/01/2021 14:52

YANBU at all. I live in a ground floor Flat and for some reason my upstairs neighbours decided to run their washing machine around 11:30 one night and I could hear it reverberating from their kitchen into my bedroom and the kitchen is at the other side of the flat. Baring in mind I'd just come off a 15 hour shift and was up again at 5am to start another 15 hour day I was not amused. They're not working so no reason at all to start doing washing at that time of night. My washing machine doesn't go on past 7pm. Don't get me wrong they're not bad neighbours and I hardly hear them unless they have company cos they talk loud, are watching a film cos they laugh loud, not good if I'm watching a horror cos her laugh is like a demented clowns and it scares the shit out of me sometimes Confusedor making their breakfast or tea cos I can hear the blender. They must live on soup and smoothies 7 days a week. Then again they probably think I'm a weirdo because they can hear me talking to myself. I'm talking to my Cat but no one sees him cos he's always inside

Unicant · 17/01/2021 14:47

It would annoy me but I dont think there's much you can do really... this is a reality of terraced housing. And a washing machine is nit so loud it constitutes a police issue. We live on a terrace and we can hear TV thru the walls but the only time I've ever complained is when one lot of neighbours were playing music top volume at like 1am... that is unreasonable... but stuff like the washing machine, the shower and normal volume of telly are just normal life things that unfortunately can be annoying if you are mid terrace...
I lived on one terrace once where you could hear people talking at normal volume clear as day!
Theres nit much you can do except remind them every now and then.... unless you want some kind of massive falling out

LH1987 · 17/01/2021 14:46

Could you potentially move your bedroom to another room in the house?

Londonnight · 17/01/2021 14:39

I have storage heating and the cheapest rate is overnight, otherwise it is massively more expensive to use the washing machine during the day.

Perhaps your neighbours is the same? My washing machine only ever goes on after midnight as that is the cheaper rate. For context, my kitchen is right under my bedroom and I never hear the machine.

I am not sure on your comment about them being HA? Does that make a difference if you don't own your house?

wildraisins · 17/01/2021 14:39

They stopped for 2wks during which time they probably found their electric key meter ran out after 9days instead of 14 or something. So they went back to doing it at night but changed the time to try to better accommodate you.

This doesn't make sense. Electricity night rate starts at 1/2am. So even if they were taking advantage of that before, they aren't now if they have changed to 11pm.

It's probably more to do with their schedule than the cost.

user1467048527 · 17/01/2021 14:39

As for the idea that a neighbour's washing machine is soothing white noise! No, I can feel the vibration lying in bed. And not in a good way.

user1467048527 · 17/01/2021 14:37

This thread is the perfect illustration of why flats aren't as popular in this country as they are in other countries - the more walls and floors you share with other people, the more likely you are to get at least one neighbour who does what they want because they can. And then if you don't like it, you're accused of wanting perfect silence or being a princess. Or given silly advice about moving to the middle of nowhere.

How good it would be to live somewhere people can live together because there is a consensus about what is acceptable and when.

MaudHatter · 17/01/2021 14:35

Yanbu This would annoy me too