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Nursery withholding DS drink

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T33l9 · 12/10/2020 08:33

My toddler (new to nursery) has been returning home with a full drink cup, as in - not being given his juice.

It is sugar free and heavily diluted so it's not unhealthy.

After doing some reading online it appears that alot of nurseries have a blanket rule of 'no juice' but this hasn't been communicated with me.

My problem is that he is a restricted eater/drinker due to having additional needs and I'm concerned he's not getting sufficient fluids. He may take a sip of water if he's totally parched, if they're lucky, but he certainly won't take in enough. When he gets home he screams and shouts for juice because he's overly thirsty.

AIBU to tell them to let him have the juice I'm sending him in with?

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SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 12/10/2020 18:02

I am fuming, @T33l9 - how very dare you come on AIBU and have everything work out easily and quickly, with no bunfights! Wink

Seriously - I’m glad it was sorted out so easily for you. Smile

SleepingStandingUp · 12/10/2020 17:59

Happy for you op

babygroups · 12/10/2020 17:58

That's really good

pastandpresent · 12/10/2020 17:50

Great result.

Itisbetter · 12/10/2020 17:45

Lovely Smile

unmarkedbythat · 12/10/2020 17:43

Oh, that was a good update to read, OP :)

Audreyseyebrows · 12/10/2020 17:43

Fantastic! Good outcome.
Maybe at home give him two drinks each time. Juice and plain water. Leave both out and don’t mention it. He might end up reaching for the water as often as the juice.

Good luck op, it’s a bloody long road but worth it.

Sirzy · 12/10/2020 17:27

Glad it’s sorted!

T33l9 · 12/10/2020 17:26

Well I've spoken with the nursery and there has been a big miscommunication, partly thanks to DP coming back to me this morning and saying the nursery wants them "all to have the same" and that being bloody water.

He's got his wires crossed which then fuelled my annoyance today.

I told the manager I had not been made aware of the "no juice" policy as I've been sending him with juice since July and nobody had mentioned anything to me, she said she hasn't banned juice at all but is encouraging the children to drink water aswell as she's under pressure from the higher ups to encourage healthy eating/drinking.

(She didn't say that to DP this morning though, only that they're encouraging drinking water - so he returned home believing it was only water allowed)

She has assured me that DS is doing well in adjusting to drinking water but when he refuses (which is 50% of the time) then he's given juice. This explains why sometimes his bottle is empty and sometimes full. He has days where he'll happily drink water but then point blank refuse on other occasions.

They haven't ever poured his juice away.

I've agreed to encourage him to drink more water at home with a view to hopefully lessening the amount he refuses it at nursery.

There has been a lack of communication on all sides, mine included.

All said and done I'm on board with the nursery encouraging him to drink more water and will do the same at home. I see it as a positive and I'm on board with it now I know exactly what's happening.

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Hm2020 · 12/10/2020 17:06

My son takes these in his lunchbox they’re are completely clear like water but very much taste of juice not flavoured water they say out of Stock on line but I buy them in store every week if u have an Iceland near u and it’s £1 for 12 just an idea and I’m sorry your going through this sounds very tough jus try thought this might be an option www.iceland.co.uk/p/calypso-clear-natural-mineral-water-cups-drinks-12-x-185ml/49008.html

Cutesbabasmummy · 12/10/2020 16:59

As a child I wouldn't drink water because even at age 2.5 my iarebts let me have coke!! My 5 year old happily drinks water because apart from milk that was the only thing I gave him for the first 2 years of his life! At school they are only allowed water so if you can wean him.off the squash now it will help in the long run.

SleepingStandingUp · 12/10/2020 16:33

DS 5 has watched his peers drink school milk for 2.5 years. Won't touch the stuff. Same for any fruit that isn't apple - 2?5 years of snack time, he just goes without if there's no apple. Likewise lunches and toileting.

Yes it might work for the majority of kids, but the idea that ALL kids will do it if they're thirsty / see Bobby doing it / aka their parents were less useless isn't true and isn't helpful
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Ariela · 12/10/2020 15:41

It is interesting that peer pressure makes such a difference.
My DD at that age wouldn't drink squash, only water or milk.
However once she discovered other kids drank diluted squash, she'd empty any child's beaker left lying around! Before that she spat it out. (And doesn't like it at all now she's older)
Likewise the potty/toilet. A friend's (older) daughter came over at a time mine was happily using a toilet step and the loo. Because Ellie didn't need to use a step as she was taller, mine refused to use the step so either wailed for assistance or used the potty - for months! What a pain!

Harrysmummy246 · 12/10/2020 15:40

Not pooing at nursery isn't constipation. DS didn't for a long time, even before potty training but was most definitely not constipated- just chose when to poo in his nappy (lucky me!)

DS is NT but is often quite thirsty when he arrives home. He does however drink a HUGE amount, like his dad.

It is reasonable to ask for more evidence of hydration than 'sips'

And as many others said, a nappy change just before pick up is very usual- I'd say no, it's ok, don't do it if he was next when I picked him up.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 12/10/2020 15:15

@T33l9

As much as I don't agree with a blanket rule, I'm happy for him to have water if I can be reassured that he's drinking enough of it.

Without that reassurance of course I would prefer he drinks juice because I know he won't refuse it (like I've seen him refuse water many times)

If they will document his fluid intake for me when asked, and it shows he's getting sufficient hydration, then I will drop the issue of juice.

This sounds like an entirely reasonable and sensible approach, and I hope the nursery is equally reasonable, @T33l9.
kursaalflyer · 12/10/2020 14:25

Also you could ask them not to change him last thing? Then you'll know for sure he's had some fluids. And only change him when he needs it. Then you can account for the nappy changes.

BobsyerUncleFannysyerAunt · 12/10/2020 14:06

I agree with updown, however I think nurseries should allow parents a period of adjustment too, to get used to the idea. It's like they are losing some control over their parenting

IHateCoronavirus · 12/10/2020 13:55

Hi op, I hope you manage to come to the best arrangement for DS, one which you feel comfortable with. I’ve been an early years teacher since 2001 including working in SEN schools. Quite often SEN children’s fixed ways of thinking are radically different in different settings. We have often found our little ones only drinking water/milk in school even when offered something else (which we would do from time to time purposefully to aid with transitions).

Ireolu · 12/10/2020 13:49

My DD goes to a mainstream nursery and eats fish and veg for meals there. No meat. They are able to make allowances for her for her diet. Why can't your son be allowed to have his diluted squash? The mind boggles. As a previous poster said he could be allowed his fluids in private.

Not that this helps you but mine always comes back thirsty from the place so I am pretty sure as a given some nurseries are not keeping en eye on the fluid intake of all the kids present.

T33l9 · 12/10/2020 13:38

I'm starting to see things from another perspective and coming around to the idea that 'only water' rule will be a good thing - If (and only if) they can show/assure me that he is drinking enough, I'll be happy.

I won't budge on the dummy front for now as I have our paeds support on that, but so long as DS is hydrated I'll be satisfied.

There are a few things me and the nursery don't agree on and whilst I will accept I'm not always right, there are some things they're not right about too. Nobody is right all of the time (least of all me)

He is my Achilles heel and I will admit I'm protective and can be sensitive where he is concerned.

Thank you all for your input on the thread be it in agreement with me or not, it helps to get a balanced view.

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ForTheLoveOfDoughtnuts · 12/10/2020 13:38

My daughter started nursery in July. At home she poops 1-3 times a day. She's only just started popping at nursery last month. I think that's because she's very settled and happy now(?)

Sirzy · 12/10/2020 13:35

Fantastic post from updown

A lot of children with additional needs also do a lot of compartmentalising where they will associate one thing or behaviour with one setting and not do that anywhere else.

At home the only crisps DS will eat are salt and vinegar (has to be walkers), at school they would go uneaten but he will eat Asda ready salted crisps in school (but never at home, when lockdown started I had a lot of ready salted crisps to eat to make sure they didn’t go off!)

Same with drinks for him, he will only drink Asda orange and mango at home but at school he will only drink flavoured water. When out he will drink lemonade but can tell different brands and is very fussy.

I have long since realised there is no point trying to second guess. It could well be that he is drinking enough water throughout the day even if at home it would be turned down.

ohnothisagain · 12/10/2020 13:30

Something to consider: even sugar free juice is horrendous for teeth, due to the acid. if nursery helps you to reduce acidic juice intake (and help you safe his teeth), i would grasp that opportunity with both hands.
Yes, I have a extremely picky SENDs child - and some relatively short days where he only sips water will not damage him.

Itisbetter · 12/10/2020 13:24

You’re right @T33l9, that’s a fab post from updown. My little one is a big one now and I totally understand where you are coming from. Let them help you, and him. He’s going to learn and change so much in the next few years, and so will you. Sadly for us Ds still only drinks water and milk so I’d be bowled over by the sips of something new.

updownroundandround · 12/10/2020 13:18

@ T33l9

P.S, I'm writing as both a professional with extensive experience working with SEN kids in residential/ social care as well as a parent of an SEN child and step parent of another SEN child.

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