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People coming into garden and driveway (new build estate)

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MyUserName77 · 17/08/2020 16:26

Hi
Moved into a new build at the end of last year.
The estate is 'open plan' in that there are no pavements as such, the driveways are at the same level as the roads (no kerbs) and the front gardens are open plan with no hedges/walls, leading straight out onto the road.
We live in a detached house on a corner, it is clear that the area in front of our house is a private driveway, the drives are all monoblocked in a different coloured brick from the road.
There is a detached house next door but because of the design of the estate, our front lawns join together with no division between them (ie it is a large expanse of grass which goes straight across the front of both of our houses), there is no dividing wall or trees etc.
We were told when we moved in that due to 'covenants' we would not be permitted to change the look of the front of the house by building walls or planting hedges etc, so as to keep the estate looking uniform (I suspect at least until work is finished on the estate which might be at least another 2 years). It is clear however, that they own the part in front of their house, and we own the part in front of our house. There is a lamp-post in the road that is exactly halfway between our houses so this is the kind of 'line' that we have always taken to be where our garden ends and theirs begins.
They are having work done in their back garden just now, and have their driveway full of landscaping equipment and materials which is fine, however, it means that the vans/trucks that the builders are using cant be parked in their driveway. For some reason, they have decided to park right in front of our front garden, not in front of the neighbours house? Which now means that the builders are trekking wheelbarrow loads of rubble etc across my front garden in order to be able to get to their truck to dump it! So saving the neighbours front lawn but wrecking mine. There's no reason they can't park 5 metres down in front of the neighbours garden. They've also left tools and equipment on my front lawn and are constantly walking across my front garden in front of my living room window, so much that I've had to shut my blinds.
I am on my own just now and don't feel comfortable going out to talk to them as there are about 6 of them, using very loud and bad language and they are pretty intimidating.
Would I be unreasonable to get my DH to park his car in front of our garden tomorrow instead of the driveway, so that they can't park there for the remainder of the garden work? After only 1 half day of work (in the rain) my front lawn has tracks of wheelbarrow and skid marks all over it. I think they think that because there is no real division of the lawns that they have the right to trek anywhere they want. I have spent a lot of time and effort making my garden look nice and I don't want it ruined.

The builders (not to mention other neighbours in the road) also used our own driveway to reverse into to turn their truck when they left. Other people do it all the time as we are on a kind of corner and they like to reverse into their own drives which means them driving into ours so that they can get turned. When our car is not parked there, they actually reverse right up into our driveway fully to the front of the house! It's very annoying as our driveway is getting a lot of traffic and I'm worried the monoblocking will show wear and tear much sooner than it should due to all the people using it. I don't know how to stop it as we are not allowed to 'change the estate' by putting up walls or gates etc. We have even had people drive across the end of our front lawn and ruin the grass as they have been so close when they are turning their cars.

Don't know what my AIBU is but I just wanted to rant. Wondering how I can get around restrictive covenants by somehow dividing the front lawns in a non permanant way. And keep people out of our driveway,
Anyone else on a stupid new build estate dealing with similar issues?

OP posts:
LightgreenBanana · 17/08/2020 18:22

£20 bullhorn on Amazon, andIm not joking. Make neighbours pay for return too, or the site office.
We were the first house to be lived in, by months, on our cul de sac of 9 houses.
I worked from home on a Wednesday, and went out every Wednesday to ask people if I could help them, when they parked on my driveway, several times, every Wednesday

ohffs66 · 17/08/2020 18:18

We have similar issues on our estate. The two neighbours whose drives are used as turning spots have put up things to stop people doing it...one has gone for a (stolen?!) traffic cone at the end of his drive, the other has built a contraption that reminds me of a horse jump that goes across his! Posties and leafleters are always walking over the gardens. I'd just go out and tell the builders to stop it tbh, they may just not be thinking. I had to have a word with next doors workmen a while ago about the noise they were making in the gardem by shouting and having the radio up full blast and tbf they quietened right down straight away.

1forAll74 · 17/08/2020 18:16

Speak to builders or neighbours, ! its the only thing to do.

ThePawtriarchy · 17/08/2020 18:08

@Darkestseasonofall

Has the world really come to this, you'll stand by whilst people trash your lawn and post about it on an Internet forum, rather than go out and say "you're ruining my lawn, please stop walking on it, or leaving anything on it". I genuinely can't fathom this at all.
Has the world really come to people asking other people for advice on a situation they find difficult? It’s not unusual to find conflict hard, I think it’s pretty obvious that people have differing tolerance for it.
PeacefulPlease · 17/08/2020 18:06

Park car next to your lawn and put big stones, plant pots or similar on edge of grass. Also have plant pots (long window box shape maybe?) to put on edge of drive...it’ll mean you’ll have to move them before you park etc which is a bit of a kerfuffle but will deter anyone from using it as a place to turn

Darkestseasonofall · 17/08/2020 18:05

Has the world really come to this, you'll stand by whilst people trash your lawn and post about it on an Internet forum, rather than go out and say "you're ruining my lawn, please stop walking on it, or leaving anything on it". I genuinely can't fathom this at all.

IsaLain · 17/08/2020 18:05

Put planter along the grass on your side of the boundary, and along the grass at the end of the front garden (but not actually on or too near the road). Thide arent permanent.

Put a bollard on your driveway. It's a bit of a hassle but will be quick to fit and make sure it's on your drive, not the road. Will be annoying at the start with having to remember to put it up when you leave and down when you get home but you'll get used to it.

Devlesko · 17/08/2020 18:04

God I couldn't live somewhere like that. Looks like you're stuck with it if you can't change the front.
Why live somewhere with rules, sounds like a prison.
Move OP, pretty quickly Grin

BluePheasant · 17/08/2020 18:01

*dividing

BluePheasant · 17/08/2020 18:01

Planters down the diving line is a really good idea.

Definitely make it clear tomorrow that they are not to do this. I would park a car in that spot if possible and leave things lying around on the lawn that block any obvious walk throughs they might take. Need to have a word with the neighbour as well and ask them to speak to their builders.

ThePawtriarchy · 17/08/2020 18:01

If I was your neighbour I would have noticed this and be mortified - and addressed it. So I’m wondering why they haven’t.

Notredamn · 17/08/2020 17:59

Do you really think neighbours and builders cheekyfuckerish enough to blindly carry on as they will take a blind bit of notice to a few scrubs or pebbles? It's obvious to them that they're taking the piss. All you have to do is make sure they know you've noted it and that you mind, and tell them to stop.

ilovesushi · 17/08/2020 17:59

We have a similar set up and I love how the gardens on our street are mainly open plan. It works because everyone is very respectful of each other's property but also very tolerant of each other. My kids sometimes take a (very mini) short cut over the corner of the neighbours lawn and I always pull them up on it. I would hate to be a nuisance to our very lovely neighbours. I would definitely have words and set a few ground rules.

AiryFairyArtyFarty · 17/08/2020 17:58

if its a new estate and they are still building have they got a management team running it
get them to sort it out

hopeishere · 17/08/2020 17:57

Agree with putting planters down the divide. As long as the grass is not communal.

YorkshireTeaIsTheBest · 17/08/2020 17:57

@Redhair23

That would really annoy me- could you put plant pots out as a temporary boundary? The neighbours should be preventing this in the first place.
This is what I would do -plant pots half way down and park in front of my own house
tara66 · 17/08/2020 17:56

Also ''NO TRESPASSING'' etc. signs!

Iknowthingsthatwillhappen · 17/08/2020 17:56

Just ask the neighbours to stop the builders crossing your lawn (or ask DH to)

NoProblem123 · 17/08/2020 17:54

Got as far as paragraph 2 and literally want to park my own car across your garden the CFers wrecking your lawn, they know full well it’s yours I’m fuming on your behalf !

Also, I’ve brought 2 new builds with similar covenants, everyone basically does as they please once builders have gone.
Can you do the passive-aggressive painted white stones in the meantime?

Fuming about the bad language you’ve had to listen to too. Trashy.

tara66 · 17/08/2020 17:52

You can get ''NO ENTRY'' signs of different sorts.

Newnamenewopenme · 17/08/2020 17:52

Take photos before it’s damaged as a back up incase you need it. Then speak to your neighbour.

Make sure you have the photos then if there ends up being an issue in future (hopefully you won’t need them) you can use them as evidence.

cologne4711 · 17/08/2020 17:50

A new build house and they've got the builders in already?

I don't think this is a peculiarly new build problem OP. I am at the end of a cul de sac and the side of my garden is the back of someone else's garden. They have a (pedestrian) gate which they use frequently into our road. But they always seem to use it as a tradesman entrance when they are having work done, so we end up with people parked outside our house, even though they're doing work in theirs, and when I walk up their road, there is no reason at all why the van/lorry can't be parked outside their house.

OP I agree with the advice for wooden planters or similar - something that isn't a fence or wall but can act as a boundary.

Countrysidelife54 · 17/08/2020 17:50

I live on an open plan estate like you op I had a wooden divider put down in the ground down to seperate our gardens, the developer did it at my request after the next door neighbour wrongly thought that part of my garden was his and started planting things there.
So just to warn you before you start dividing up what land is yours, check your plans first so you can accurately determine what exactly is yours.
Unfortunately my neighbour was told part of my garden was his by the newbuild company by mistake, even though you could clearly see on the plans it wasn't.
Other people have put down wooden dividers in the ground on my development and its not something the developers have been bothered about at all.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 17/08/2020 17:47

could you put plant pots out as a temporary boundary?

This is what I did, when I got fed up of the guy next door driving deep ruts across my lawn

They were terracotta and next thing I knew he was demanding compo for damage to his car caused by driving into the large pots that "he didn't see" Hmm

MizMoonshine · 17/08/2020 17:44

Pop up some temporary fencing down the divide of the gardens. And put a cone in front of your driveway.

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