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People coming into garden and driveway (new build estate)

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MyUserName77 · 17/08/2020 16:26

Hi
Moved into a new build at the end of last year.
The estate is 'open plan' in that there are no pavements as such, the driveways are at the same level as the roads (no kerbs) and the front gardens are open plan with no hedges/walls, leading straight out onto the road.
We live in a detached house on a corner, it is clear that the area in front of our house is a private driveway, the drives are all monoblocked in a different coloured brick from the road.
There is a detached house next door but because of the design of the estate, our front lawns join together with no division between them (ie it is a large expanse of grass which goes straight across the front of both of our houses), there is no dividing wall or trees etc.
We were told when we moved in that due to 'covenants' we would not be permitted to change the look of the front of the house by building walls or planting hedges etc, so as to keep the estate looking uniform (I suspect at least until work is finished on the estate which might be at least another 2 years). It is clear however, that they own the part in front of their house, and we own the part in front of our house. There is a lamp-post in the road that is exactly halfway between our houses so this is the kind of 'line' that we have always taken to be where our garden ends and theirs begins.
They are having work done in their back garden just now, and have their driveway full of landscaping equipment and materials which is fine, however, it means that the vans/trucks that the builders are using cant be parked in their driveway. For some reason, they have decided to park right in front of our front garden, not in front of the neighbours house? Which now means that the builders are trekking wheelbarrow loads of rubble etc across my front garden in order to be able to get to their truck to dump it! So saving the neighbours front lawn but wrecking mine. There's no reason they can't park 5 metres down in front of the neighbours garden. They've also left tools and equipment on my front lawn and are constantly walking across my front garden in front of my living room window, so much that I've had to shut my blinds.
I am on my own just now and don't feel comfortable going out to talk to them as there are about 6 of them, using very loud and bad language and they are pretty intimidating.
Would I be unreasonable to get my DH to park his car in front of our garden tomorrow instead of the driveway, so that they can't park there for the remainder of the garden work? After only 1 half day of work (in the rain) my front lawn has tracks of wheelbarrow and skid marks all over it. I think they think that because there is no real division of the lawns that they have the right to trek anywhere they want. I have spent a lot of time and effort making my garden look nice and I don't want it ruined.

The builders (not to mention other neighbours in the road) also used our own driveway to reverse into to turn their truck when they left. Other people do it all the time as we are on a kind of corner and they like to reverse into their own drives which means them driving into ours so that they can get turned. When our car is not parked there, they actually reverse right up into our driveway fully to the front of the house! It's very annoying as our driveway is getting a lot of traffic and I'm worried the monoblocking will show wear and tear much sooner than it should due to all the people using it. I don't know how to stop it as we are not allowed to 'change the estate' by putting up walls or gates etc. We have even had people drive across the end of our front lawn and ruin the grass as they have been so close when they are turning their cars.

Don't know what my AIBU is but I just wanted to rant. Wondering how I can get around restrictive covenants by somehow dividing the front lawns in a non permanant way. And keep people out of our driveway,
Anyone else on a stupid new build estate dealing with similar issues?

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Mikerushton122 · 22/11/2024 14:53

Did you ever build a wall around your garden to make it private

Akindelle · 26/08/2020 00:01

You need a lockable bollard at the bottom of your drive to prevent access. Pots or similar to prevent people coming onto your property. Put bricks in the pots under the soil to make them too heavy to move.

DreamTheMoors · 25/08/2020 23:53

@MyUserName77

Here’s what worked for me: BRIBERY.

I bought a couple of 24-pack lagers and batted my eyelashes and asked nicely if they could please stay off my lawn and drive.

Never had a single bit of trouble from that day forward.
It might work.

Notenoughchocolateomg · 19/08/2020 21:07

This is one of those situations where you have to react instantly and let them know that no, this is not OK! People will take advantage if you haven't got the confidence to call them out on it.

BackBoiler · 19/08/2020 13:32

Honestly I would shout...."Stop turfing my fucking grass up!" If they cannot see themselves what they are doing they deserve it!

Fowles94 · 19/08/2020 11:20

You are being unreasonable to not just speak to them or your neighbour.

Julmust · 19/08/2020 08:43

Yanbu. They are cfs. Stop them doing it by parking so they can't

StoneofDestiny · 19/08/2020 08:27

petlover I live in a new build, but have a private garden, so it's just some properties that are built with communal greenery (just the same as some old terraced houses have no gardens at all).

There are loads of easy ways to mark boundaries. A few flower beds will sort it.

Shiverywinterbottom · 19/08/2020 00:09

We have a similar layout where our front lawn is shared with my neighbour with no clear boundary.
The boundary is actually a straight line down from our house.
There’s a 12 year old boy living next door and he comes out of the side gate of their house and cycles over their lawn and my lawn. It pisses me right off.
We plan on putting a small hedge there to define the boundary. Our next door neighbours also never mow the damn lawn and leave it up to my husband. He would leave their small portion of the lawn but it would look really daft. Can’t wait to plant our damn hedge.

But in answer to your question, yes I would definitely park there so they can’t!!

Arkenfield3001 · 18/08/2020 23:20

Honestly just go and speak to the builders!
Just go and politely explain the situation and ask them not to. I too am left wondering what is it exactly you think they would do?
If you don’t feel brave enough to just go out go in armed with cake or offers of tea & coffee . Best of luck

cherish123 · 18/08/2020 22:50

I would explain to the builders that this is your lawn. They probably already know but pretend you don't know that. Act the idiot. Also - I know you are not allowed bushes/walls but could you put some plants or pots to make the boundary clear?

Celestine70 · 18/08/2020 22:24

You can put things on your lawn driveway. Big planters. Parking cones. A swimming pool. Anything to stop people using them. Hammer in a sign saying don't park on the lawn. Just go tell the neighbour they are messing up your lawn and for them to use their own lawn.

Nothingforthcoming2020 · 18/08/2020 22:12

I would park across your own drive so they can’t!

Petlover9 · 18/08/2020 21:59

I would cut my losses and move somewhere with garden walls and no covenants. I hate the way new builds have no private front gardens now.

MrsBadcrumble123 · 18/08/2020 20:39

Crikey! Grow a pair and tell the builders to stay off your obvious front garden! I doubt any of the builders are members of Mumsnet so it’s unlikely they will see your rant!

PermaStress · 18/08/2020 19:53

As for the neighbours using your drive, some penguin bollards simple traffic cones should make the point.

PermaStress · 18/08/2020 19:50

I voted YABU because come on OP grow some! They are a group of builders who are swearing because that's what they do on building sites, not because they're thugs about to lay into you. GO AND TALK TO THEM. Be reasonable and polite but FIRM "Hi guys this side of the lamp post is my property, you made a mess of it yesterday so you're going to need to stay off my lawn and my driveway for the rest of the duration of your job. Thanks, bye!"

Anything they may object back at you with is met with a shrug and a "I'm sure you'll find a way without using my property" on repeat.

And talk to your neighbour. And/or ring the company head office. But ffs don't do all victim passive aggressive stuff, it won't work and will just piss you off even more.

Burnthurst187 · 18/08/2020 19:50

@wheresmymojo

I find threads like this so weird.

OP, do you know any builders?

They're just people you know.

Sure they'll use bad language to each other as 'banter' but they're no more likely to be aggressive to you (if you are polite to them) than any other person.

I sort of see this kind of thing as like the class version of when white middle class women in the US assume a black man will attack them.

Bizarre.

Strange comparison
Burnthurst187 · 18/08/2020 19:48

My next door neighbour had some building work done recently and the builders were a joke. They dumped a huge pile of gravel off the back of a van about waist high blocking my driveway, didn't ask if I needed to get my car out. Luckily I didn't. They even parked on my drive one day, that was the final straw so I had a go at them over the fence. They apologised and moved it

You will need to make a stand early on because they will just get worse. When said builders left the street looked awful, gravel and sand everywhere. I swept some of it up and so did a house two down. Thank god they were only here for a week.

wheresmymojo · 18/08/2020 19:39

I find threads like this so weird.

OP, do you know any builders?

They're just people you know.

Sure they'll use bad language to each other as 'banter' but they're no more likely to be aggressive to you (if you are polite to them) than any other person.

I sort of see this kind of thing as like the class version of when white middle class women in the US assume a black man will attack them.

Bizarre.

Todaywewilldobetter · 18/08/2020 19:38

Why cant you ask them not to rather than PA -ing them with a parked car.
Folks are odd.

StoneofDestiny · 18/08/2020 19:32

Sort it out with them.
Get a flower border in ASAP.
Gradually add bushes and shrubs.
Place a few big rocks in between the bushes and shrubs.
It will soon get sorted and stop inconsiderate drivers.

People coming into garden and driveway (new build estate)
VinylDetective · 18/08/2020 19:11

@Spinningdot

Has anyone said penguin bollards yet?
Yes, of course, this is MN after all!

Just tell them, OP. The grass will be fine if they stop now.

Spinningdot · 18/08/2020 19:10

I'd be sticking some spikes in my garden & putting up some 'do not enter' tape. & definitely some sort of barrier so others can't use your drive. What about long term damage to your drive? If anyone complains to the estate building company, complain right back that your private drive is being used - & therefore potentially damaged - without consent

Spinningdot · 18/08/2020 19:06

Has anyone said penguin bollards yet?

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