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To not like my own adult children?

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Anotherday1972 · 27/04/2020 15:32

Ok I’m ready for a lot of criticism here and perhaps I deserve it, but am I being unreasonable to say I don’t actually like my kids very much, in fact barely at all now?

Without a doubt I loved them completely when they were born and vowed to bring them up the best I could. I became a single mother when they were very young (DD & DS). Their father had very little input either emotionally or financially despite my best efforts and I was always painted as the villain by his family for trying to get him to see them and get maintenance from him. Me, my DS & DD were a happy little band of three up until they became teenagers, when they began to disrespect me.

I have endured around a decade now of insults, abuse, nasty criticisms, disdain, disrespect etc. from both of them, they are now in their early 20’s. Son is at home again after losing third place I set him up in due to a number of issues. I am in considerable debt after helping them for so long and so often. DS blames me for his low self-esteem and total lack of motivation and substance abuse which I have focused all my energies on helping him with for many years, without success.

I feel desperately sad as I write this because it wasn’t supposed to be like this and I feel like crying, but it has reached the stage where I almost actively hate them for what they have done to me and the way they have turned out. No matter how friends and family reassure me, I still feel to blame. I was never perfect but I wasn’t that bloody bad! I feel sad then ashamed then guilty.

They talk about a ‘deprived childhood’ yet I have plenty of memories (and evidence!) of holidays abroad, cosy times together making dens, cooking together, trips away, often in an effort to detract from their useless father, I felt I was always trying to make up for his absence. I was definitely a full-on parent who went above and beyond despite working full-time. We always had home cooked meals, their favourite food, treats and above all, my time. Sometimes I think I must be going crazy and imagined their childhoods, if it wasn’t for the literally thousands of photographs and diaries I have recording all these events (they make very poignant reading now).

Finally after being single for all of their childhoods I tried OLD a couple of years ago and met a wonderful supportive partner. They hated this having got used to having me all to themselves for so long. It was my DP that eventually pointed out how totally disrespectful they were and how upset he got at the way they treated me but did not dare interfere. In the early days with him they would openly mock me in front of him only for them to say they were ‘joking’ if I challenged this. It was embarrassing and humiliating for me.

The type of words they will use to describe and send to me in messages have included ‘insane’ ‘mentally ill’ ‘weird’ unhinged’ ‘a poor achiever’ (ironic because I've done well in my job) I only seem to hear from them when they need something. My DP is getting increasingly frustrated I guess because he can see from an unbiased point of view. He often says what an amazing mum I’ve been and anyone would be lucky to have me, and how he fumes over the way they treat me. This in turn makes me feel totally inadequate and weak like I’ve let them down and now I'm letting him down. He has made efforts with them both but they have been quite disrespectful to him too.

It has reached the stage now where I feel like moving away with my DP if we could to escape the relentless depression they bring me. I am blamed for everything going wrong in their lives. They are both incredibly manipulative and often fall out with each other then make up and ostracise me. They will happily borrow large amounts of money because they ‘deserve’ a holiday then get cross about having to pay it back (either to me or other relatives).

I’ve put this on AIBU though would love some tips on how to cope from anyone who has been in the same situation, how to get stronger, I guess I’m asking AIBU in not liking them?

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Grandmi · 27/04/2020 23:21

I have read most of this thread and I had/ have a brother who rewrote our childhood in his head !! If my lovely mum was alive now, she would tell you to be brave and stand up to your children and if they cannot be respectful to accept the consequences!! I do really feel for you,💐💕

Anotherday1972 · 27/04/2020 22:57

Goon1234
Thank you for your post. X

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RideaCockHorseOfCourse · 27/04/2020 22:54

You could try writing them an open letter. If you write it all down, they can't turn it into being about them, turn it around, or start a shouting/slanging match. (Well, maybe at least not until they've read it!)Tell them of all the things you've posted here - how you feel you've endured years of their criticism/rudeness, etc and how they make you feel. Tell them of all the hard work you've put into parenting them, and whilst you may never had wanted any thanks for how you've always tried your best for them, you've continually supported them, despite them making you feel that you could never do anything right, etc. (or exactly what it is they do make you feel, OP.) Make sure you keep it factual, and list if needed what you have done to help them - set your son up several times with accommodation, that you have used up all your money in doing so, but you never begrudged them of it. Remind them of the things you used to do together when they were younger, and that you thought you were doing a good job for them. That it must so obviously not be the case because of all the reminders you get that they make you feel like a shit parent. Well no more, because if you have so obviously been a shit parent, you're done with it all, especially seeing it seems they couldn't care less about you, you are now going to go and have a life with your new partner. Tell them it's time they stood on their own. Good luck OP, it may be the wake up call they need. Flowers

browzingss · 27/04/2020 22:07

Well, with your son his nasty behaviour is probably part fuelled by his substance abuse problems or potential withdrawal symptoms/mental health issues. Perhaps if he was “clean” he might not be as vile towards you, as he’d be thinking more rationally. But of course you absolutely shouldn’t feel compelled to house him until he gets clean if he’s behaving like this towards you.

Goon1234 · 27/04/2020 21:39

Goodness I feel for you op, but they are grownups now and should be responsible for themselves. You sound like you ve been an amazing mum, they’ve got very short memories haven’t they. However now is your time to shine. You’ve got a lovely partner so move away with him. I think hollow talk said get some where without a spare room. Brill idea. You can still keep in touch ,I’m sure they have the latest technology to hand.I have terminal cancer so I know how short life can be. You need to live yours. Good luck with whatever you decide.

Pixxie7 · 27/04/2020 21:32

It’s human nature to look for someone to blame if life doesn’t turn out how you think it should. We all make our own mistakes in life and have our own regrets.
You did the best you could in difficult circumstances one day they will see this. In the mean time I would distance myself but let them know why and let them know you will always be there if for them. They need to grow up.

Endweather26a · 27/04/2020 21:05

I'm not blaming anyone at all

Do they call other people names, their friends, work colleagues, managers, hobby friends, people in shops, other family members ?

Why is there no respect ?

It costs nothing to say please & thank you

Perhaps, you should stop the lending money, doing favours etc

They sound angry

You sound frustrated & disappointed

Perhaps, they need to channel their anger somewhere

TheMotherofAllDilemmas · 27/04/2020 20:53

I really feel for you OP, so difficult that things have turned this way. There is no point on going on about what you could have done different as you tried your best and you cannot turn back time.

My ExH has refused to see DS for more than 10 years, I have tried my best to DS achieve his potential and provide for him, I gave him a lot of memories (which he obviously no longer remember Grin) but above all, I tried to reduce the damage from his dad’s rejection by living with the phrase “what happens to you, does NOT reflect who you are” (I’m saying this in the hope that you remember that, you tried your best, your children have made their own choices)

I hope you can realise and accept that you have done your work and it is now time to put yourself and your happiness first, and who knows, perhaps leaving them to fend by themselves may kick them into acting like grown up responsible adults.

So go away without guilt, by leaving, you are allowing them to grow up, admittedly many times you need to hit rock bottom before you can swim up. So let them fail, because from those failures they will learn learn to fend by themselves and find their way without the need to abuse you as they please.

SliAnCroix · 27/04/2020 20:30

And actually, reading just your posts and nobody else's I really recognise that dynamic where there are two of them and has until recently been one of you and when they're tiny you're obviously in charge, and when they're young teens you're still in charge but they have begun to figure out that if they collude with each other against you they have strength as a unit of two, and you're still just one. I really recognise this dynamic in my kids when they are trying to bully me in to giving in over something.

I think your kids have fallen in to the habit of manipulating you and ganging up with each other to be a stronger force against you whenever you try to put your foot down.

Christ, it's frightening as I recognise this in my own life. I'm single and I'm not a particularly forceful person. I don't COMMAND respect although I don't really know why that is as I work hard, I am a decent person, I do no harm. I am failing at the take no shit part of do no harm and I suspect that is where you've gone off track as well.

I agree with others that if you say ''this isn't working'' and absent yourself, they may appreciate you.. But it wonn't be overnight.

SliAnCroix · 27/04/2020 20:22

I worry about this happening. Single parent to two kids, b&g. PART of the problem is, brown cat, brown kitten and my son is very like his father and will do NOTHING unless he wants to.
Anyway, my are teens atm and I worry for the future. Sometimes young adults just have a lot of anger and they don't even consciously know why they're angry. Angry cos life is hard....

d577ta · 27/04/2020 20:13

Please do not do what a couple of posters have suggested and ask your children what specifically was wrong with their childhood. They are obviously not feeling very objective and will give a massively biased answer. I agree with the general consensus to put some distance between you and your children for a while. Paradoxically they will appreciate you more when you give them less and set boundaries. They are clearly not very used to thinking about how their actions are affecting you. I know its really hard but you need to start learning how to stand up to them as they are bullying you. They are going to blame your partner etc and say you don't care about them etc. Get ready for some backlash. Maybe you could phone somewhere like relate you are probably going to need to be counselled through this process. I would say this will take a few years for things to turn around. You didn't get there overnight. How do I know all this. My mum was you and me and my brother were your DD and DS. Hopefully we wern't anywhere near as bad as you are saying for instance we have never taken money from her and we moved out. But she was a bit of a do whatever we say and run around after us and we were a bit nonchalent just letting her and not really seeing her as a fellow adult. Your son needs to move out (be kicked out) and take responsibility for himself. Good luck with everything.

HollowTalk · 27/04/2020 20:08

The thing is that you don't need to vow never to speak to them again. Just accept that this isn't working for anyone - they are staying like children and you deserve some peace and quiet (and your own money.)

I would move away to somewhere without a spare room. I'd tell them where I was going but I'd tell them they couldn't stay and that you've used up all your money on the move. Oh and if they ask for money say "I was just going to ask whether you could repay your loans as I'm skint" - you won't hear from them for a while, then.

Dragongirl10 · 27/04/2020 20:00

They are adults and you need to tell them in no uncertain terms that you will not be spoken to rudely of they can leave and fend for themselves entirely, why aren't they ?

You sound like a great mum, but sadly they sound like spoilt brats. Make some readjustments to your approach, send a
letter or email, describing all you have done ( just like in your opening post)
and letting them know that whilst you love them you refuse to tolerate rudeness to you or your partner at all. They are welcome anytime as long as they adhere to this basic common decency.
Then focus on your life with your partner and cut the apron strings.

triedandtestedteacher · 27/04/2020 19:57

I could give you my mum's number as she's the same. I think it's def a case of being too nice. Both my adult siblings live at home with my mother and treat her pretty crap. My brother is particularly awful and abusive. Also similar to you mum has tried to set him up in various businesses to try and get him independent. We actually had less than your children seem to have had ( not much in the way of holidays etc) but we were absolutely loved by her and continue to be. I think though because she treats them like children , they act like petulant uncontrollable children. The best thing you can do is get your son moved out and distance yourself. Don't respond to abusive texts. Any bad treatment should be met with radio silence until they get the message they need to have done respect

Anotherday1972 · 27/04/2020 19:54

effingterrified
No my DP hasn't stirred things up, he gave them lots of time & was non-judgemental for a long time but I appreciate what you're saying

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Enough4me · 27/04/2020 19:47

You are an adult, they are adults. When they were children you had a duty of responsibility and care that mean when they were rude or mean you had to educate them and show them measured consequences, rather than throw them out or block them.

By allowing the situation to perpetually happen you are a significant part of the problem. Quite honestly you are at the stage to step back and leave a space for them to approach you as adults rather than spoilt brats.

effingterrified · 27/04/2020 19:42

Agree with Backtolifebacktoreality99 - your dcs are probably unhappy about the relationship they never had with their dad, and so take it out on you, as the parent who is there.

That doesn't make it OK, but maybe having some understanding might make you feel better.

They will grow up one day but in the meantime, don't feel you have to let them get away with the behaviour. They may also have unconsciously learned to treat you rudely by copying their absent dad.

Equally, bit concerned that you said your new dp made you feel worse by something he said - it may be in his interest to see off the dcs as competition, so be careful that he's not stirring up bad feeling whilst pretending to support you.

PsQsAndFs · 27/04/2020 19:40

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Mittens030869 · 27/04/2020 19:38

When I hear accusations of “rewriting history” it makes me sad. Sometimes you have to listen, however hard it is.

^This is very true. My DM thought we had a happy family life when my siblings and I were growing up. In actual fact, my F was sexually abusing my DSis and me and my DB was exposed to what was going on, and ended up becoming part of it.

Now the three of us have had our mental health badly damaged and my DB's life has been completely destroyed. My DSis and I have created good lives for ourselves and have our own families, but my DB is a shell of a man at 52. He's always made my DM's life hell, she's constantly bailed him out of all kinds of messed up situations, but he's never been grateful to her for anything she's done for him.

My DM has always meant well, and I know that she loves us. But, although she didn't know about what happened and I know it wasn't her fault, our relationship has been damaged because she was too busy to know what was happening. She was a workaholic and left us with our F and au pairs.

I'm not suggesting that your adult DC has anything so bad happen to them. But you need to give them a chance to tell you what their memories of their childhoods, and not simply tell them that it wasn't like what they're saying.

It doesn't justify the way they're treating you, though, that's completely wrong and your DP is right about that. I hate the way my DB makes my DM feel sometimes. Whatever she may have done wrong when we were growing up, she doesn't deserve that. He has scared her as well, which isn't right, when she's 80 years old.

justtb · 27/04/2020 19:38

Having just come out of my early twenties Ive come to realise just how badly I treated my mother since my teens.. we still have a bit of a toxic relationship but I am more grateful than ever of what's she's has and continues to do for me..
Your kids sound like a couple of stereotypical millennials to me.. we're all spoilt and live in the age of social media, where there are unrealistic goals etc. Life's really hard at the moment (regardless of covid) the average age of moving out is something like 26 now! I see so many people my age still living at home, yet working full time (something I've never been able to achieve cos of where I live) paying no rent, having lovely holidays and cars on finance. It's blows my mind!
I do agree that maybe distancing yourself from them might be a good idea. Give it a few years and they will realise just what you've done for them - they may not outwardly say thank you but their behaviour towards you will change.

LilacTree1 · 27/04/2020 19:36

OP

What do they do for work and can they go into a flatshare?

I knew someone who had a 25 year old who wouldn’t do her share in the home, asked for money constantly and shouted at her mum constantly. Interestingly, she didn’t shout at her dad.

They ended up paying to put her in a flatshare and literally drove her there. Of course you might not be able to afford that but in that case they might need to go in a full on multiple occupation house share.

I don’t think you should have to move areas.

TheLadyAnneNeville · 27/04/2020 19:30

I think they sound spoiled and disrespectful. You have done your very best in difficult circumstances. I think it’s time to let them go. Stop doing all that you do for them.

My sister’s children (now adults) are the same. For years she’s said “I’m going to put my foot down/shock them/do things differently”. She never has. I think I’ll still be having the same conversation with her, about them, when I’m collecting my pension.

I’m really sad for you @Anotherday1972 but you know? If you don’t want to be on here in 5/10/20 yrs saying the same thing... you have to tell them now. You have done as much as you can and they need to “do” for themselves.

Good luck ❤️

OffThePlanet · 27/04/2020 19:22

OP sounds like you bent over backwards trying your best to give your DC a good life. Unfortunately you might have spoilt them and been too nice.

I was a single parent with three DC. They weren’t spoilt, I was working but life wasn’t easy financially. I enjoyed my DC’s teenage years, I think it was my favourite time. I always believed most single parents were more likely to be close to their children

One thing I wouldn’t put up with is disrespect, they occasionally tried but I would be on them like a ton of bricks. No moody teenagers in my house. They have their own children now and parent their DC in a similar way and we are all still close.

Northernsoullover · 27/04/2020 19:22

There was absolutely no abuse whatsoever in our family. No neglect. I don't know why my brother behaves this way.

Taliya · 27/04/2020 19:20

Should have read 'we all try our best as parents'

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