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To have smacked my child

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Temporarilyc · 27/04/2020 00:22

I've name changed for this because I'm ashamed of myself and will make no excuses for my behaviour. I suppose I'm looking for somebody to tell me I'm not the terrible person I believe I am but am prepared to be told otherwise.

On Saturday I smacked my three year old on the arm, it didn't leave a mark but it was hard enough that it made him cry and shocked him.

I have always been very "anti smacking" yet lost control of myself in the heat of the moment.

The reason it happened (but not an excuse) is because he was lashing out and bit his one year old sibling on the arm hard enough to leave deep teeth marks which are still visible today. I was exhausted and frustrated and lost control.

He has forgotten all about it but the guilt is eating me up.

I want to go and get him out of bed and bring him in with me just so I can hold him, love him and make amends for what I've done. (I won't because he's sleeping, but the urge is strong)

I haven't told DH because I'm a hypocrite, when discussing discipline pre children I made a blanket rule that we would never use physical punishment. DH thinks there is nothing wrong with a tap on the hand whereas I disagreed so made him promise never to do that.

Am I the scum of the earth or is this something you've done too in the heat of the moment?

I hate myself.

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Dipi79 · 27/04/2020 20:25

I'm very much an advocate of PACE parenting, but I lost my temper and slapped my toddler once. It was right that I felt guilty and ashamed, as I lost control. It wasn't my usual parenting style at all, so I did some work on myself and my parenting. We human, we make mistakes. Take learning from this and move on. X

Rentacar · 27/04/2020 19:21

Honestly, don't beat yourself up. It sounded like an instinctive reaction to.your baby getting bitten. I'm sure you won't do it again.

If you've said sorry to your son, move on.

If you think he has additional needs then the biting might be sensory. Perhaps get him a chewigem necklace for him to bite. That might stop the need for him to bite people.

staceyflack · 27/04/2020 16:30

What @LouiseCollina said 💐

magicfarawaytrees · 27/04/2020 16:04

I’ve not read the whole thread OP but you are totally normal.

I’ve done it twice with my eldest (not proud).

The first time she nearly threw both herself and me down a full flight of full steps by full on tantrumming in my arms. I managed to somehow turn around on the step 180 degrees to stop us both falling. We’d have broken bones at the least. She was 3.

The second time she was 4. I was locking up my front door on my house at the time. Whilst I did this she ran the full length of the street towards the very busy main road at the end. I had to drop my bag, leave the keys in the door and sprint to grab her as she was just about to run straight into the main road where there were cars driving at 40mph. I managed to grab her around 3 feet away from doing this.

Both times I felt like shit for weeks about it. Needless to say she is now 9 and a very happy kid (touch wood). It’s not brought up in conversation between us but I wouldn’t deny doing it or minimize it. I did something similar to my mum (going for her on our house steps) and she smacked me then. Needless to say I’ve never held a grudge and totally get why she snapped!

Temporarilyc · 27/04/2020 15:44

I've told DH, he was shocked given my firm "no smacking" stance. He has echoed what most here have said, let it go it was a one off and we will combine efforts to get the biting under control

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peoplewhoannoyyou · 27/04/2020 14:02

You should discuss it with your husband, it would be terrible if you hid it through shame. As for the smacking, don't worry too much about it, it's just one of those things. You shouldn't have done it, the child shouldn't have bitten the sibling.

AwrightDoreenTakeAFuckinDayOff · 27/04/2020 13:57

I am not a mum so don’t have experience of this. I’m agreeing with @WhatWouldYouDoWhatWouldJesusDo said at the top of the thread.

I know it isn’t great to smack but after watching two young girls getting screamed at (the absolute works) in the street today for being too slow, as a child I’d have preferred a tap or small smack. (I say this as someone who was smacked as a child and had far worse as an adult)

It was awful to hear. I was a good distance away and just saw the little souls cower and melt into their boots.

Op, you know it wasn’t great and it was instinct and not malice. I know some will hate me for this I think what I witnessed earlier was far, far worse than a small tap Sad

bruce43mydog · 27/04/2020 13:38

Unfinishedsymphon

Maybe it didn't damage you which is brilliant for you

But studies have been done that prove that if it is done long term then it does damage a child.

And it happened to me a lot growing up and I can say yes it does damage your mental health.

But luckily op has realised she handled it wrong and will now find a better way of dealing with her sons behaviour.

Mistakes can happen by parents sometimes but as I said above as long as it never happens again op won't have done any damage.

nanbread · 27/04/2020 13:38

Get a play pen or a travel cot OP. Then when you need to turn your back put baby in there.

You could even put baby in the (empty) bath if he can't get in it.

Chewies sound like a good idea too.

Kalifa · 27/04/2020 13:38

Some of you say never hit a child in anger. So is it better to hit them in a cold calculated manner when you are not even angry?

BrooHaHa · 27/04/2020 13:26

*I'd at least go for, 'No biting people' presuming he understands what 'people' means

BrooHaHa · 27/04/2020 13:24

'No!' isn't terribly specific. How sure are you that he understands what he's being told off for? I'd at least go with, 'No biting!'

Do look into a parenting book. Maybe, 'How to talk so kids will listen'? I've heard that praised a lot on here. Mine is something like, 'What great parents do' but I can't remember the exact wording.

RoseGoldEagle · 27/04/2020 13:19

The only time I came close to doing this was exactly the same scenario as you- when my 2.5 year old DD bit her baby brother. I’m amazed I managed to stop myself because the anger just flared up and I was so so angry with her. Even though rationally I knew that she was tiny, and adjusting to a huge change, and I’m massively against smacking, and anyway what a pointless response to retaliate with violence - I knew all that, but in that moment it just goes out the window. I felt like I was quite a patient mum when it was just DD, and once DS arrived I struggled so much more, I ended up doing quite a few parenting courses and reading loads of books and trying to work on it. Obviously it got easier anyway once they were a bit bigger. So anyway, I really really don’t think you should be too hard on yourself- you’re human and you reacted that way instinctively because someone was hurting your baby, the fact that person was your other baby won’t have come into it in that split second. You know it’s not ok and feel guilty and will work really hard on never doing it again- I think that’s literally the mark of a good parent to be honest x

PeanutDouglas · 27/04/2020 13:00

It happens, move past it. You’re not a terrible mum at all. You feel guilt for a start. Parenting is tough

Trinpy · 27/04/2020 12:57

It is completely impossible to stop the younger one getting hurt by the older one unless you keep them separated the entire time. I remember with my 2 even if I had them both sitting down nicely together, playing well, me sitting in between them and watching them like a hawk the entire time, DS1 would still find a way to hit his little brother.

If you have space for a playpen or to physically divide the room up so that your ds can play away from dd then do that as you'll save yourself a lot of stress in the long term. I didn't have this option so I just had to do the best I could and I found Ds2 learnt to defend himself pretty quickly.

Don't worry about nursery. Lots of children bite at that age and nursery should know how to deal with it.

Taking away toys won't help at that age as it's not related to what he did wrong. Trying to teach a 3 year old with suspected ASD to imagine how someone else feels is likely to not work either. Even my NT 4 year old struggles with empathy. A book about biting with clear repetition of the rule don't bite people could help combined with a sensory toy he can chew on when he feels the urge to bite sounds like it might be worth a try.

Oh and don't beat yourself up about hitting him. I smacked ds1 on his arm when he hit baby ds2 really hard across his face Shock. It was a weird instinctual thing that I felt awful about and ds1 likely can't even remember now. You have years of parenting ahead of you where you will likely fuck up many times however hard you try Smile.

Mittens030869 · 27/04/2020 12:50

Please don't beat yourself up, OP. You were reacting to your DS biting his baby sibling and that was very understandable. I've had to cope with a lot of violence from my DD1 (now 11), towards both DD2 (now 8) and myself too in the past. They're both adopted, and birth siblings, so there are complex issues behind the behaviour. DD1 has SEN and adoption related attachment issues, but she is now improving, to encourage you.

I think smacking is an issue particularly if the parent minimises it. My DM does that about our childhood. She admits that our F used to smack us too hard and says she didn't agree with that and stopped him. She didn't, or not for many years and never said anything about that at the time. Plus she smacked us herself. The end result was that my DSis and i didn't feel able to disclose to her that our F was in fact sexually abusing us as well, because we had no reason to think that she would protect us from him.

What happened with you really isn't something to dwell on. The fact that you feel awful about it shows how strongly you feel that it wasn't a good way of disciplining your DS and that you're a wonderful mum. Thanks

diddl · 27/04/2020 12:46

" she always wants to play with him and be in his personal space"

And that's not acceptable either (yes I know she's still very young), but she needs to learn to leave him alone & he needs to learn that it's not ok to bite, but that you will keep her away when he wants to be on his own.

81Byerley · 27/04/2020 12:42

I had children in the 70s, and we smacked them when they were naughty. If I had them now, I wouldn't. But having said that , I think what you did was instinctive. it wasn't like you put him over your lap and smacked him. You didn't smack him round the ear (unforgivable) and you didn't hit him with a strap or cane. What you did was minor, and I think you should just forgive yourself.

Thelittleweasel · 27/04/2020 12:29

It happens. Please don't worry. At least these days we are conscious that it is not a good idea. DH tells me of the time when children were routinely hit [assaulted/beaten] with canes at school and by their parents ["a good smack"]

Wakaranaihito · 27/04/2020 12:18

You reacted to a situation. Give yourself a break. We are none of us perfect and all do things we regret. Like you said - he has forgotten it and it was completely out of character. There isn't a person posting on this board - including, I'm sure, @compassunreliable who hasn't made a mistake or lost their cool in one way or another. The #BeKind that makes the rounds all the time also includes being kind to yourself.

It happened, move on.

Temporarilyc · 27/04/2020 12:16

DH works long hours so the childcare falls to me and with them being so young it's just not possible to keep them in separate rooms as that would mean one is being neglected and left to their own devices.

I'm trying hard here but it is difficult.

I refute the accusation that I'm not protecting my youngest, 2 times out of 3 I'm able to get in there first and scoop her up if he's becoming agitated but I only have one pair of arms and eyes.

DD is curious and sociable, she always wants to play with him and be in his personal space as that is just her nature, to be loving and playful.

Unfortunately his nature is that he likes to play alone and not have her touch "his" things or be touched, that is more often than not where the biting comes from.

They have individual personalities, opposite in nature, and the added complication of (potential) ASD means they clash.

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Clotho55 · 27/04/2020 12:14

Hello OP, don't feel too bad about a small smack. It's very demanding looking after a 1-year old and a 3-year old (I've been there!) and we parents have our limits of patience. As others have said here, it was a reactionary smack - which I have found myself doing, when my children were younger - and the fact that you feel bad now - after the event - means you are very unlikely to be smacking either of your children in the future. Today is another day, don't look back, only forwards

Temporarilyc · 27/04/2020 12:09

I implement discipline every time it happens, I get down go his level take his hands, loudly and firmly say "no!" then remove him from the situation. I take away his tablet and if cartoons are on they go off. I remove the toy box from the room.

Short of hitting him every time it happens which I'm absolutely not going to do, I'm at a loss.

I'm going to persevere with time out and I'll buy him some chew specific toys.

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Temporarilyc · 27/04/2020 12:05

@JRUIN he's not spiteful he's very likely to be autistic, we are as sure as can be possible in the absence of a diagnosis and that is only because the waiting list for assessments here are so long.

I hover around them continuously and never leave them alone in a room together, I still have to turn my back regularly to do other things such as cooking or housework as no child can be watched 24-7.

Short of keeping them in separate rooms I fail to see what I can to do prevent it, that I haven't already done.

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UnfinishedSymphon · 27/04/2020 12:00

hitting damages children

I was hit a couple of times as a kid and I'm not damaged, it did me no long term harm whatsoever. I'm not condoning hitting but sometimes we snap and it's impulsive.

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